Proof of relationship

[RKarim 2]

Good day all.....as we prepare to do our K1 petition my fiancée (US citizen) think it's not important to mention the date we met because of concern that it might raise a red flag since we met in august and got engaged in November the month in which she paid me a surprise visit (almost died😵) so I'm asking this is mentioning the length of time we together important....advice on how to proceed will be greatly appreciated....thanks much

Edited February 3, 2020 by RKarim

[Greenbaum 12,258]

51 minutes ago, RKarim said:

Good day all.....as we prepare to do our K1 petition my fiancée (US citizen) think it's not important to mention the date we met because of concern that it might raise a red flag since we met in august and got engaged in November the month in which she paid me a surprise visit (almost died😵) so I'm asking this is mentioning the length of time we together important....advice on how to proceed will be greatly appreciated....thanks much

Don't overthink this process. You must be honest in your dates and your information you provide. If discovered you have not be forthcoming then you stand to be denied. It's best to get off to a good start. 

[payxibka 10,044]

3 hours ago, RKarim said:

Good day all.....as we prepare to do our K1 petition my fiancée (US citizen) think it's not important to mention the date we met because of concern that it might raise a red flag since we met in august and got engaged in November the month in which she paid me a surprise visit (almost died😵) so I'm asking this is mentioning the length of time we together important....advice on how to proceed will be greatly appreciated....thanks much

While the uscis won't care about the length of the relationship, it will likely be a question at time of interview,  so be accurate 

Edited February 3, 2020 by payxibka

[JFH 12,189]

*~*~*procedural question moved from “progress reports” to “process and procedures”*~*~*

[SJB0403 1]

Hi. It is very important that you include pictures, chats, screenshots of the first time you both met. If your application is missing these documents it will cause delays or for them to request further proof of relationship. You would need to have met in person within the two years before your filing date and they will want proof of that.

 

 

Hope this helps!!

 

Sarah

[elkski 28]

36 minutes ago, SJB0403 said:

Hi. It is very important that you include pictures, chats, screenshots of the first time you both met. If your application is missing these documents it will cause delays or for them to request further proof of relationship. You would need to have met in person within the two years before your filing date and they will want proof of that.

 

 

Hope this helps!!

 

Sarah

are chats required?   if you have airline tickets hotel receipts from 6 trips to visit the partner and 20 pictures together would you still need any chat logs?

[Xavier_ 31]

2 hours ago, SJB0403 said:

Hi. It is very important that you include pictures, chats, screenshots of the first time you both met. If your application is missing these documents it will cause delays or for them to request further proof of relationship. You would need to have met in person within the two years before your filing date and they will want proof of that.

 

 

Hope this helps!!

 

Sarah

I didn't put the online interactions in my proofs! Just Photos of us, airline tickets, hotels, passports stamps and some letters we sent to each others

 

 

 

1 hour ago, elkski said:

are chats required?   if you have airline tickets hotel receipts from 6 trips to visit the partner and 20 pictures together would you still need any chat logs?

No you don't need the chat logs as long as you have real photos and other physical proofs. Honestly a chat log can be photoshoped it's not a real proof... 

Edited February 8, 2020 by Xavier_

[SalishSea 16,769]

1 hour ago, elkski said:

are chats required?   if you have airline tickets hotel receipts from 6 trips to visit the partner and 20 pictures together would you still need any chat logs?

No, chats are not required.  Neither are photos, except for the required passport style photos.

[Xavier_ 31]

2 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

No, chats are not required.  Neither are photos, except for the required passport style photos.

Well, a photo is a BIG plus to show you really met physically lol

Edited February 8, 2020 by Xavier_

[SalishSea 16,769]

2 hours ago, SJB0403 said:

Hi. It is very important that you include pictures, chats, screenshots of the first time you both met. If your application is missing these documents it will cause delays or for them to request further proof of relationship. You would need to have met in person within the two years before your filing date and they will want proof of that.

 

 

Hope this helps!!

 

Sarah

This type of front-loading is not “required,” and often adding loads of unasked for items actually causes the delays and RFEs.

 

If the beneficiary is from a high-fraud, high-risk country, such front-loading may be warranted.

[SalishSea 16,769]

2 minutes ago, Xavier_ said:

Well, a photo is a BIG plus to show you really met physically lol

It actually is not.  The requirement is to have met once during the immediate two years.  USCIS adjudicators have no way to confirm when a photo was taken, or who is in it.

 

Photos are considered to be secondary evidence.  Primary evidence is passport stamps and boarding passes.

Edited February 8, 2020 by Jorgedig

[Xavier_ 31]

Just now, Jorgedig said:

It actually is not.  The requirement is to have met once during the immediate two years.  USCIS adjudicators have no way to confirm when a photo was taken, or who is in it.

Oh about the 2 years. Yes it is true; but at least to show it's a real relationship. I was just saying this from a human point of view and not from their administrative requirements.

[SJB0403 1]

1 hour ago, Jorgedig said:

It actually is not.  The requirement is to have met once during the immediate two years.  USCIS adjudicators have no way to confirm when a photo was taken, or who is in it.

 

Photos are considered to be secondary evidence.  Primary evidence is passport stamps and boarding passes.

 

Yes, passport stamps do help. Just stating from my personal case. and yeah photos taken on your phone do have time stamps, just have to know how to print it with them on it.

 

 

[SJB0403 1]

1 hour ago, Xavier_ said:

I didn't put the online interactions in my proofs! Just Photos of us, airline tickets, hotels, passports stamps and some letters we sent to each others

 

 

 

No you don't need the chat logs as long as you have real photos and other physical proofs. Honestly a chat log can be photoshoped it's not a real proof... 

You can attached as much proof as you like. additional chat logs with dates can be sent also as well as things that show it is a real relationship.

[SalishSea 16,769]

1 hour ago, SJB0403 said:

 

Yes, passport stamps do help. Just stating from my personal case. and yeah photos taken on your phone do have time stamps, just have to know how to print it with them on it.

 

 

Timestamps can be photoshopped.  Again, photos are secondary evidence.