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Need some advice regarding our situation.

 

My father (a US Citizen) filed an I-130 for my married sister in February 2007. My father passed away in April 2010. 

Going through the notices we received, my sister received her I-130 approval from USCIS in August 2010. 

 

My sister recently received her notice from NVC. We mentioned to them in an email that the petitioner, my father, has passed away and they asked for his death certificate which we emailed recently. Still waiting to hear back from them.

 

Our mother (my deceased father's wife) is currently living with me in the US (she has a green card for over 10 years) and my brothers all immigrated to the US a while back and are all US Citizens. My sister's only child  also got married and immigrated to the United States a few years ago and is a greencard holder.

 

I was just searching regarding how the immigration process works for a deceased petitioner and to my surprise it seems that the application would be revoked. Is that true for our situation? My question is, is there any hope for my sister and her husband to immigrate to the US since my father passed away (and my brothers and mother have been in the US)? She has been waiting all these years and most of her family has immigrated to the US and she would like to move here as well to be with family.

 

I would appreciate if there is any advice if there is any way she can still immigrate to the US. We should not have an issue supporting them. 

 

Thank you

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Since your mom has been in US as a green card holder for over 10 years, cant she get a citizenship and after that petition your sister as an immediate relative? I guess your sister is over 21 years old so it wont be quick anyway.

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Shawn and Olga married in Russia May 7th 2013

IR-1 process

USCIS:

6/11/2015: Filed I-130 petition

6/13/2015: Delivered to Chicago Lockbox

6/15/2015: Petition is accepted by USCIS (California)

6/17/2015: NOA1 received via email/text

6/23/2015: NOA1 received via mail

8/18/2015: USCIS approved petition online - 63 days from NOA 1

8/22/2015: NOA2 received via mail

NVC:

9/8/2015: NVC received the case

9/22/2015: got case number and invoice number via phone

9/22/2015: submitted DS-261 Choice of agent

9/22/2015: paid AOS fee $120 - IN PROCESS

9/24/2015: AOS fee shows PAID

9/28/2015: NVC Welcome Letter is received (issued on Sept 21st)

10/1/2015: AOS package sent to NVC

10/5/2015: AOS package delivered to NVC

10/5/2015: SCAN DATE for AOS package

10/6/2015: confirmed DS-261 over the phone

10/7/2015: email from NVC - husband is chosen as agent and IV fee is invoiced

10/8/2015: paid IV fee $325 - IN PROCESS

10/8/015: IV package sent to NVC

10/10/2015: IV fee shows PAID

10/11/2015: submitted DS-260 and got confirmation

10/13/2015: IV package delivered to NVC

10/13/2015: SCAN DATE for IV package

11/24/2015: Case Complete at NVC

12/2/2015: Case Complete letter from NVC

EMBASSY:

2/10/2016: Interview scheduled for March 15th 2016 :dancing:

Medical exam scheduled on March 14th 2016

2/10/2016: Interview Letter Received (P4)

2/16/2016: CEAC shows CASE IN TRANSIT

2/18/2016: CEAC shows READY

3/14/2016: medical exam passed

3/15/2016: interview - APPROVED! Status ISSUED - Your visa has been printed.

3/17/2016: call from Pony Express - visa is delivered to my town

POE:

4/19/2016: Moscow - New York - Atlanta

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What would the compelling humanitarian circumstances be?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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2 minutes ago, MrsCrabs said:

Since your mom has been in US as a green card holder for over 10 years, cant she get a citizenship and after that petition your sister as an immediate relative? 

Unfortunately she does not qualify for citizenship at this time since she stayed in her home country for about 1 year recently. 

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When will her daughter be able to naturalise?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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2 minutes ago, bulls2020 said:

Unfortunately she does not qualify for citizenship at this time since she stayed in her home country for about 1 year recently. 

But she was allowed to enter US after that, right? She can be naturalized under 5 year rule and if its only one year out of 10 she was abroad, shouldn`t be an issue. 

Shawn and Olga married in Russia May 7th 2013

IR-1 process

USCIS:

6/11/2015: Filed I-130 petition

6/13/2015: Delivered to Chicago Lockbox

6/15/2015: Petition is accepted by USCIS (California)

6/17/2015: NOA1 received via email/text

6/23/2015: NOA1 received via mail

8/18/2015: USCIS approved petition online - 63 days from NOA 1

8/22/2015: NOA2 received via mail

NVC:

9/8/2015: NVC received the case

9/22/2015: got case number and invoice number via phone

9/22/2015: submitted DS-261 Choice of agent

9/22/2015: paid AOS fee $120 - IN PROCESS

9/24/2015: AOS fee shows PAID

9/28/2015: NVC Welcome Letter is received (issued on Sept 21st)

10/1/2015: AOS package sent to NVC

10/5/2015: AOS package delivered to NVC

10/5/2015: SCAN DATE for AOS package

10/6/2015: confirmed DS-261 over the phone

10/7/2015: email from NVC - husband is chosen as agent and IV fee is invoiced

10/8/2015: paid IV fee $325 - IN PROCESS

10/8/015: IV package sent to NVC

10/10/2015: IV fee shows PAID

10/11/2015: submitted DS-260 and got confirmation

10/13/2015: IV package delivered to NVC

10/13/2015: SCAN DATE for IV package

11/24/2015: Case Complete at NVC

12/2/2015: Case Complete letter from NVC

EMBASSY:

2/10/2016: Interview scheduled for March 15th 2016 :dancing:

Medical exam scheduled on March 14th 2016

2/10/2016: Interview Letter Received (P4)

2/16/2016: CEAC shows CASE IN TRANSIT

2/18/2016: CEAC shows READY

3/14/2016: medical exam passed

3/15/2016: interview - APPROVED! Status ISSUED - Your visa has been printed.

3/17/2016: call from Pony Express - visa is delivered to my town

POE:

4/19/2016: Moscow - New York - Atlanta

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1 minute ago, MrsCrabs said:

But she was allowed to enter US after that, right? She can be naturalized under 5 year rule and if its only one year out of 10 she was abroad, shouldn`t be an issue. 

she has stayed more than 1 year on a few occasions. 

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5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

When will her daughter be able to naturalise?

Daughter should be able to apply for naturalization around August and should be naturalized after January.

How long does it usually take if a US Citizen Child applies for parents?

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5 minutes ago, MrsCrabs said:

But she was allowed to enter US after that, right? She can be naturalized under 5 year rule and if its only one year out of 10 she was abroad, shouldn`t be an issue. 

This might trip them up. 

 

Demonstrate continuous residence for at least 5 years immediately before the filing of the N400.  

 

Then there is the physical "presence" for 30 out of the last 60.

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YMMV

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1 minute ago, bulls2020 said:

Daughter should be able to apply for naturalization around August and should be naturalized after January.

How long does it usually take if a US Citizen Child applies for parents?

If I`m not mistaken, about a year or longer depending on country of origin.

Shawn and Olga married in Russia May 7th 2013

IR-1 process

USCIS:

6/11/2015: Filed I-130 petition

6/13/2015: Delivered to Chicago Lockbox

6/15/2015: Petition is accepted by USCIS (California)

6/17/2015: NOA1 received via email/text

6/23/2015: NOA1 received via mail

8/18/2015: USCIS approved petition online - 63 days from NOA 1

8/22/2015: NOA2 received via mail

NVC:

9/8/2015: NVC received the case

9/22/2015: got case number and invoice number via phone

9/22/2015: submitted DS-261 Choice of agent

9/22/2015: paid AOS fee $120 - IN PROCESS

9/24/2015: AOS fee shows PAID

9/28/2015: NVC Welcome Letter is received (issued on Sept 21st)

10/1/2015: AOS package sent to NVC

10/5/2015: AOS package delivered to NVC

10/5/2015: SCAN DATE for AOS package

10/6/2015: confirmed DS-261 over the phone

10/7/2015: email from NVC - husband is chosen as agent and IV fee is invoiced

10/8/2015: paid IV fee $325 - IN PROCESS

10/8/015: IV package sent to NVC

10/10/2015: IV fee shows PAID

10/11/2015: submitted DS-260 and got confirmation

10/13/2015: IV package delivered to NVC

10/13/2015: SCAN DATE for IV package

11/24/2015: Case Complete at NVC

12/2/2015: Case Complete letter from NVC

EMBASSY:

2/10/2016: Interview scheduled for March 15th 2016 :dancing:

Medical exam scheduled on March 14th 2016

2/10/2016: Interview Letter Received (P4)

2/16/2016: CEAC shows CASE IN TRANSIT

2/18/2016: CEAC shows READY

3/14/2016: medical exam passed

3/15/2016: interview - APPROVED! Status ISSUED - Your visa has been printed.

3/17/2016: call from Pony Express - visa is delivered to my town

POE:

4/19/2016: Moscow - New York - Atlanta

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6 minutes ago, bulls2020 said:

Daughter should be able to apply for naturalization around August and should be naturalized after January.

How long does it usually take if a US Citizen Child applies for parents?

That would be a very quick naturalisation, anyway about a year or after she is naturalised.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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20 minutes ago, MrsCrabs said:

But she was allowed to enter US after that, right? She can be naturalized under 5 year rule and if its only one year out of 10 she was abroad, shouldn`t be an issue. 

Presumably continuous residence was broken (which is a different item than being admitted as an LPR).

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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It's unfortunate that your family didn't look into this after your father's death. I know you say you're surprised - but these visas are family reunification visas, and if someone is deceased there can be no basis for reunification (USCIS doesn't automatically assume there are other family members let alone those who are in the correct status to be a sponsoring relative.) We see a lot of talk about substitution of relatives on VJ but it seems very few successful cases. To be honest, in your shoes I would be consulting with a good immigration attorney to see what f any options you have for another relative to take over the petition, or (which may be unfortunately a more likely outcome) whether it's time for someone else to file for your sister. It would be helpful to the forum in general if you can update the case with what you are advised/plan to do.

 

I'm also wondering about the fact that the petitioner died before the petition was even approved. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

It's unfortunate that your family didn't look into this after your father's death. I know you say you're surprised - but these visas are family reunification visas, and if someone is deceased there can be no basis for reunification (USCIS doesn't automatically assume there are other family members let alone those who are in the correct status to be a sponsoring relative.) We see a lot of talk about substitution of relatives on VJ but it seems very few successful cases. To be honest, in your shoes I would be consulting with a good immigration attorney to see what f any options you have for another relative to take over the petition, or (which may be unfortunately a more likely outcome) whether it's time for someone else to file for your sister. It would be helpful to the forum in general if you can update the case with what you are advised/plan to do.

 

 

Well my sister's daughter has immigrated to the US through marriage and she will be a citizen after January 2020. So it seems that may be another option for my sister's daughter to apply for her. But how long does that process take? 

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