Do I resubmit the same Bona Fides to NVC as I did for USCIS?

[Bayman 65]

29 minutes ago, Gigi5280 said:

Thanks for the advice - you're right, it doesn't hurt to send extra! I was already planning to send recent call logs, photos and boarding passes from the trips we've had since we filed, and evidence of joint finances. We front loaded pretty heavily for the I-130, so I can just copy that stack of evidence and add it in. I appreciate everyone taking the time to comment! 

 

good.

[Dashinka 23,192]

I guess I would agree, if you can send more information it won’t hurt.  That being said, it has been my experience that we were able to submit additional information or information USCIS may have misplaced, during the interview stage for the K1, AOS and ROC.  Of course YMMV and it may depend on the country, as well as what was submitted in the first place.

 

Good Luck!

Edited March 26, 2019 by Bill & Katya

[geowrian 22,335]

Also keep in mind the context. Some items of relevance:

• The OP is going through Canada, a very low fraud country.
• They already sent evidence. How much? We don't know.
• Are there any red flags? We don't know.
• How much time have they spent together in person? We don't know.

For instance, if there were no red flags, they see each other in person monthly, and they sent all kinds of good, quality evidence initially, then sideloading at NVC is just a waste of time for everybody.

If they were going through a high fraud embassy like Nigeria (not picking on Nigeria...just an example!) and only met once, then it is very highly recommended to provide more evidence at every opportunity.

 

Also note that there is no need to send evidence that was already provided with the I-130 or any subsequent RFEs for it. They already have it.

 

While not asked or likely particularly relevant here, the CO only has to consider evidence provided at the I-130 stage. Anything sent to NVC or provided at or after the interview is considered at their discretion.

Edited March 26, 2019 by geowrian

[SalishSea 16,737]

1 minute ago, geowrian said:

The OP is going through Canada, a very low fraud country.

Exactly.

[Gigi5280 9]

37 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Also keep in mind the context. Some items of relevance:

• The OP is going through Canada, a very low fraud country.
• They already sent evidence. How much? We don't know.
• Are there any red flags? We don't know.
• How much time have they spent together in person? We don't know.

For instance, if there were no red flags, they see each other in person monthly, and they sent all kinds of good, quality evidence initially, then sideloading at NVC is just a waste of time for everybody.

If they were going through a high fraud embassy like Nigeria (not picking on Nigeria...just an example!) and only met once, then it is very highly recommended to provide more evidence at every opportunity.

 

Also note that there is no need to send evidence that was already provided with the I-130 or any subsequent RFEs for it. They already have it.

 

While not asked or likely particularly relevant here, the CO only has to consider evidence provided at the I-130 stage. Anything sent to NVC or provided at or after the interview is considered at their discretion.

 

Thank you so much for the thoughtful and thorough answer. I do feel like I have a good picture of what to send now, but in case having a fuller picture helps anyone else looking for similar answers, I'll add additional context: 

 - we met via work and have been together for 2.5 years with regular visits (roughly every other month, with me spending 4 full months in Canada last summer as well).

- At the I-130 stage we submitted all boarding passes and itineraries with at least two photos from each trip and a separate page of photos showing us with each other's family and friends. Because my dad is from the UK, I was fairly familiar with the process and was diligent about collecting this type of proof from quite early on, so we submitted a good variety. 

- We also submitted a sampling of phone records over the past two years, insurance docs listing each other as beneficiaries, the deposit receipt and contract for our formal celebration which is planned for our 1 year anniversary, congratulatory cards from friends and family, and letters from employers stating that we are listed as married for tax/employment purposes

- Neither of us have been married previously or have a criminal record, and my husband has never overstayed a visa or attempted to move out of Canada prior to this application, so I don't think we are at risk of the major red flags, but I guess you never know. 

 

Based on the advice of this thread, I am planning to submit our follow up bona fides, which consist of boarding passes and photos from the trips we've had since filing, details of our joint bank account with proof that it is in use (we both deposit into it regularly and use it to pay for flights and our filing fees), one of the invitations for our upcoming reception, and anything else that we have by the time we get our case number. I probably will NOT submit copies of our full I-130 file, as it sounds like that would just be a pain for the CO, but I will make sure we have it available for the interview in case we get asked for something specific. 

 

My main goal is just to be prepared and organized. Thank you again for the helpful answers - I appreciate everyone who took the time to respond with advice! 

[dwheels76 5,459]

21 hours ago, Gigi5280 said:

Thanks for the advice - you're right, it doesn't hurt to send extra! I was already planning to send recent call logs, photos and boarding passes from the trips we've had since we filed, and evidence of joint finances. We front loaded pretty heavily for the I-130, so I can just copy that stack of evidence and add it in. I appreciate everyone taking the time to comment! 

 

Hey you are Canada no sweat there. But nothing wrong with updating your file. Especially if you visited each other.

[Bayman 65]

1 hour ago, Gigi5280 said:

 

Thank you so much for the thoughtful and thorough answer. I do feel like I have a good picture of what to send now, but in case having a fuller picture helps anyone else looking for similar answers, I'll add additional context: 

 - we met via work and have been together for 2.5 years with regular visits (roughly every other month, with me spending 4 full months in Canada last summer as well).

- At the I-130 stage we submitted all boarding passes and itineraries with at least two photos from each trip and a separate page of photos showing us with each other's family and friends. Because my dad is from the UK, I was fairly familiar with the process and was diligent about collecting this type of proof from quite early on, so we submitted a good variety. 

- We also submitted a sampling of phone records over the past two years, insurance docs listing each other as beneficiaries, the deposit receipt and contract for our formal celebration which is planned for our 1 year anniversary, congratulatory cards from friends and family, and letters from employers stating that we are listed as married for tax/employment purposes

- Neither of us have been married previously or have a criminal record, and my husband has never overstayed a visa or attempted to move out of Canada prior to this application, so I don't think we are at risk of the major red flags, but I guess you never know. 

 

Based on the advice of this thread, I am planning to submit our follow up bona fides, which consist of boarding passes and photos from the trips we've had since filing, details of our joint bank account with proof that it is in use (we both deposit into it regularly and use it to pay for flights and our filing fees), one of the invitations for our upcoming reception, and anything else that we have by the time we get our case number. I probably will NOT submit copies of our full I-130 file, as it sounds like that would just be a pain for the CO, but I will make sure we have it available for the interview in case we get asked for something specific. 

 

My main goal is just to be prepared and organized. Thank you again for the helpful answers - I appreciate everyone who took the time to respond with advice! 

great to submit follow up bona fides evidence to nvc . It doesn't hurt to send them. good luck!

Edited March 26, 2019 by Bayman

[geowrian 22,335]

Over 99.9 times out of 100, providing more evidence is not harmful.

That said, it is possible to accidentally or unknowingly submit documentation that raises more questions or issues. I have seen cases where people provided information that went in a bad direction. It doesn't mean don't send stuff...just a reminder to always be mindful of anything you do present to immigration.

The OP's plan to add in some more photos and boarding passes shouldn't be an issue at all, though.

 

The point is that when you add the evidence (post-I-130) isn't that important. It's not going to make or break a properly prepared case. It's certainly not going to make or break the OP's case.

I would be shocked - barring something major unknown or undisclosed ITT - if there was any concerns raised by the CO regarding having a bona fide marriage. The time physically spent together is the strongest evidence they have, and they have it in spades. Everything else noted is just icing at this point.

[Dashinka 23,192]

13 hours ago, geowrian said:

Also keep in mind the context. Some items of relevance:

• The OP is going through Canada, a very low fraud country.
• They already sent evidence. How much? We don't know.
• Are there any red flags? We don't know.
• How much time have they spent together in person? We don't know.

For instance, if there were no red flags, they see each other in person monthly, and they sent all kinds of good, quality evidence initially, then sideloading at NVC is just a waste of time for everybody.

If they were going through a high fraud embassy like Nigeria (not picking on Nigeria...just an example!) and only met once, then it is very highly recommended to provide more evidence at every opportunity.

 

Also note that there is no need to send evidence that was already provided with the I-130 or any subsequent RFEs for it. They already have it.

 

While not asked or likely particularly relevant here, the CO only has to consider evidence provided at the I-130 stage. Anything sent to NVC or provided at or after the interview is considered at their discretion.

Additionally, the original question was should the OP re-submit the same information already submitted, not new or additional information.  I don't know of anyone that essentially re-submits the initial package at the NVC stage.

[Thegirl 224]

Send new additional stuff, don't send the same things that you sent to USCIS to NVC. 

[Ryan H 3,790]

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