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Do I resubmit the same Bona Fides to NVC as I did for USCIS?

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29 minutes ago, Gigi5280 said:

Thanks for the advice - you're right, it doesn't hurt to send extra! I was already planning to send recent call logs, photos and boarding passes from the trips we've had since we filed, and evidence of joint finances. We front loaded pretty heavily for the I-130, so I can just copy that stack of evidence and add it in. I appreciate everyone taking the time to comment! 

 

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I guess I would agree, if you can send more information it won’t hurt.  That being said, it has been my experience that we were able to submit additional information or information USCIS may have misplaced, during the interview stage for the K1, AOS and ROC.  Of course YMMV and it may depend on the country, as well as what was submitted in the first place.

 

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37 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Also keep in mind the context. Some items of relevance:

  • The OP is going through Canada, a very low fraud country.
  • They already sent evidence. How much? We don't know.
  • Are there any red flags? We don't know.
  • How much time have they spent together in person? We don't know.

For instance, if there were no red flags, they see each other in person monthly, and they sent all kinds of good, quality evidence initially, then sideloading at NVC is just a waste of time for everybody.

If they were going through a high fraud embassy like Nigeria (not picking on Nigeria...just an example!) and only met once, then it is very highly recommended to provide more evidence at every opportunity.

 

Also note that there is no need to send evidence that was already provided with the I-130 or any subsequent RFEs for it. They already have it.

 

While not asked or likely particularly relevant here, the CO only has to consider evidence provided at the I-130 stage. Anything sent to NVC or provided at or after the interview is considered at their discretion.

 

Thank you so much for the thoughtful and thorough answer. I do feel like I have a good picture of what to send now, but in case having a fuller picture helps anyone else looking for similar answers, I'll add additional context: 

 - we met via work and have been together for 2.5 years with regular visits (roughly every other month, with me spending 4 full months in Canada last summer as well).

- At the I-130 stage we submitted all boarding passes and itineraries with at least two photos from each trip and a separate page of photos showing us with each other's family and friends. Because my dad is from the UK, I was fairly familiar with the process and was diligent about collecting this type of proof from quite early on, so we submitted a good variety. 

- We also submitted a sampling of phone records over the past two years, insurance docs listing each other as beneficiaries, the deposit receipt and contract for our formal celebration which is planned for our 1 year anniversary, congratulatory cards from friends and family, and letters from employers stating that we are listed as married for tax/employment purposes

- Neither of us have been married previously or have a criminal record, and my husband has never overstayed a visa or attempted to move out of Canada prior to this application, so I don't think we are at risk of the major red flags, but I guess you never know. 

 

Based on the advice of this thread, I am planning to submit our follow up bona fides, which consist of boarding passes and photos from the trips we've had since filing, details of our joint bank account with proof that it is in use (we both deposit into it regularly and use it to pay for flights and our filing fees), one of the invitations for our upcoming reception, and anything else that we have by the time we get our case number. I probably will NOT submit copies of our full I-130 file, as it sounds like that would just be a pain for the CO, but I will make sure we have it available for the interview in case we get asked for something specific. 

 

My main goal is just to be prepared and organized. Thank you again for the helpful answers - I appreciate everyone who took the time to respond with advice! 

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21 hours ago, Gigi5280 said:

Thanks for the advice - you're right, it doesn't hurt to send extra! I was already planning to send recent call logs, photos and boarding passes from the trips we've had since we filed, and evidence of joint finances. We front loaded pretty heavily for the I-130, so I can just copy that stack of evidence and add it in. I appreciate everyone taking the time to comment! 

 

Hey you are Canada no sweat there. But nothing wrong with updating your file. Especially if you visited each other.


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1 hour ago, Gigi5280 said:

 

Thank you so much for the thoughtful and thorough answer. I do feel like I have a good picture of what to send now, but in case having a fuller picture helps anyone else looking for similar answers, I'll add additional context: 

 - we met via work and have been together for 2.5 years with regular visits (roughly every other month, with me spending 4 full months in Canada last summer as well).

- At the I-130 stage we submitted all boarding passes and itineraries with at least two photos from each trip and a separate page of photos showing us with each other's family and friends. Because my dad is from the UK, I was fairly familiar with the process and was diligent about collecting this type of proof from quite early on, so we submitted a good variety. 

- We also submitted a sampling of phone records over the past two years, insurance docs listing each other as beneficiaries, the deposit receipt and contract for our formal celebration which is planned for our 1 year anniversary, congratulatory cards from friends and family, and letters from employers stating that we are listed as married for tax/employment purposes

- Neither of us have been married previously or have a criminal record, and my husband has never overstayed a visa or attempted to move out of Canada prior to this application, so I don't think we are at risk of the major red flags, but I guess you never know. 

 

Based on the advice of this thread, I am planning to submit our follow up bona fides, which consist of boarding passes and photos from the trips we've had since filing, details of our joint bank account with proof that it is in use (we both deposit into it regularly and use it to pay for flights and our filing fees), one of the invitations for our upcoming reception, and anything else that we have by the time we get our case number. I probably will NOT submit copies of our full I-130 file, as it sounds like that would just be a pain for the CO, but I will make sure we have it available for the interview in case we get asked for something specific. 

 

My main goal is just to be prepared and organized. Thank you again for the helpful answers - I appreciate everyone who took the time to respond with advice! 

great to submit follow up bona fides evidence to nvc . It doesn't hurt to send them. good luck!

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Over 99.9 times out of 100, providing more evidence is not harmful.

That said, it is possible to accidentally or unknowingly submit documentation that raises more questions or issues. I have seen cases where people provided information that went in a bad direction. It doesn't mean don't send stuff...just a reminder to always be mindful of anything you do present to immigration.

The OP's plan to add in some more photos and boarding passes shouldn't be an issue at all, though.

 

The point is that when you add the evidence (post-I-130) isn't that important. It's not going to make or break a properly prepared case. It's certainly not going to make or break the OP's case. :)

I would be shocked - barring something major unknown or undisclosed ITT - if there was any concerns raised by the CO regarding having a bona fide marriage. The time physically spent together is the strongest evidence they have, and they have it in spades. Everything else noted is just icing at this point. :thumbs:


Timelines:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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13 hours ago, geowrian said:

Also keep in mind the context. Some items of relevance:

  • The OP is going through Canada, a very low fraud country.
  • They already sent evidence. How much? We don't know.
  • Are there any red flags? We don't know.
  • How much time have they spent together in person? We don't know.

For instance, if there were no red flags, they see each other in person monthly, and they sent all kinds of good, quality evidence initially, then sideloading at NVC is just a waste of time for everybody.

If they were going through a high fraud embassy like Nigeria (not picking on Nigeria...just an example!) and only met once, then it is very highly recommended to provide more evidence at every opportunity.

 

Also note that there is no need to send evidence that was already provided with the I-130 or any subsequent RFEs for it. They already have it.

 

While not asked or likely particularly relevant here, the CO only has to consider evidence provided at the I-130 stage. Anything sent to NVC or provided at or after the interview is considered at their discretion.

Additionally, the original question was should the OP re-submit the same information already submitted, not new or additional information.  I don't know of anyone that essentially re-submits the initial package at the NVC stage.


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US Entry : 2014-09-12

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Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

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N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

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Send new additional stuff, don't send the same things that you sent to USCIS to NVC


Cateogory: CR1

  • NOA1/Notice of receipt: Sept. 15, 2015
  • NOA2/I130 Approved: February 8, 2016 (NO RFE) :)
  • Process slowed down by us
  • Sent documents to NVC: April 11, 2016
  • Scan date: April 14/ May 7th (NVC said both I dont know why)
  • Case Complete: May 31, 2016 (No checklist) :dancing:
August 17, 2016: Visa Approved!!!! :dancing:

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Moved from Progress Reports to Process & Procedures.


Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

 

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