Washington state: at least 20 county sheriffs refuse to enforce new gun laws

[Chris Duffy 1,256]

On ‎2‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 2:55 PM, jg121783 said:

There is one thing i havent seen anyone bring up here. The constitution trumps all other laws. All sheriffs take an oath to defend the constitution. These sheriffs could conceivably argue they are upholding their constitutional duties by not enforcing unconstitutional laws.

That would be my argument if I was a LEO.  Taking guns and restricting guns is just Nazi like and I personally would not live in city or state that restricts my ability to own or carry a firearm.  

 

[Dashinka 23,245]

For people's reading pleasure.  A bunch of state laws on the books that mostly are not enforced.

 

https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/top-craziest-laws-still-on-the-books

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Nothing new, but a good reminder.

 

 

Edited February 25, 2019 by ALFKAD

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

2 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

Nothing new, but a good reminder.

 

 

Be  careful with facts, they can get you in trouble 

[jg121783 3,907]

14 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

Nothing new, but a good reminder.

 

 

It's a national emergency. Just like global warming. We must take immediate action to avoid disaster.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

To be fair, the numbers are off a bit.  If you are part of the 1712 who are not in a gang or committing suicide, your chance of death by a gun is about 0.00054871%, not 0.0000085641%.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

2 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

To be fair, the numbers are off a bit.  If you are part of the 1712 who are not in a gang or committing suicide, your chance of death by a gun is about 0.00054871%, not 0.0000085641%.

how recent are your stats  Asking for a friend ?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

how recent are your stats  Asking for a friend ?

Tell your friend they are from yesterday.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

8 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

To be fair, the numbers are off a bit.  If you are part of the 1712 who are not in a gang or committing suicide, your chance of death by a gun is about 0.00054871%, not 0.0000085641%.

 

  So if they were not dead, they really wouldn't have anything to worry about then.

 

  I know what you are getting at, but statistics govern the chances of something that hasn't happened. For those 1712, the probability of death by firearm is 100%.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  So if they were not dead, they really wouldn't have anything to worry about then.

 

  I know what you are getting at, but statistics govern the chances of something that hasn't happened. For those 1712, the probability of death by firearm is 100%.

Great point.  Using THAT logic, I have a 2700.008769% chance of NOT being in the 1712.  Seeing as how I can still type and all...

Edited February 27, 2019 by ALFKAD

[Steeleballz 7,550]

10 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

Great point.  Using THAT logic, I have a 2700.008769% chance of NOT being in the 1712.  Seeing as how I can still type and all...

 

   Your rationale would apply, but technically you have a 100% chance of not being in the 1712.

 

  If we use statistical analysis of historical data, then I think what you meant to say is for someone who is not in a gang or suicidal, that chances of being killed by a firearm are ~0.00054871%.  We don't know what that number will be in any given year, but we know it was 1712 people killed in whatever year your graphic is from.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

8 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Your rationale would apply, but technically you have a 100% chance of not being in the 1712.

 

  If we use statistical analysis of historical data, then I think what you meant to say is for someone who is not in a gang or suicidal, that chances of being killed by a firearm are ~0.00054871%.  We don't know what that number will be in any given year, but we know it was 1712 people killed in whatever year your graphic is from.

You win the internetz for the day.  And next time I get into an argument with my wife, I’m gonna call you and put you on the phone to argue my side for me.  My logic usually fails. 

[jg121783 3,907]

1 hour ago, ALFKAD said:

You win the internetz for the day.  And next time I get into an argument with my wife, I’m gonna call you and put you on the phone to argue my side for me.  My logic usually fails. 

Didn't you know your wife is always right? I have learned that one already in my few years of marriage.

[Neonred 3,446]

I'll be watching what happens in the neighboring state of Oregon which is poised to pass some very restrictive gun "control" legislation.

 

Senate Bill 501 is the firearms bill that is among the strictest. It would limit ammunition purchases to 20 rounds in a 30-day period and prohibit firearm magazines that can hold more than five rounds.

 

Going to be interesting to see how the large rural and right leaning population reacts.

 

My son is getting very frustrated with life in Oregon and will likely be leaving in the near future.

[TBoneTX 43,058]

4 hours ago, Neonred said:

My son is getting very frustrated with life in Oregon and will likely be leaving in the near future.

Good for him.

4 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Didn't you know your wife is always right? I have learned that one already in my few years of marriage.

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