Lost Green Card

[mobilebucky 5]

2 minutes ago, Damara said:

 

Wow you filed the i90 in Dec '16 and didnt get it before ROC in Sept '17?! Such a shame! You did nothing technically wrong. If someone loses their card (2yr or 10yr) they can file an i90 for a replacement. (You are suppose to) But it seems you got screwed because when they finally got to getting around to your i90 filing your card was expired so they couldnt issue a replacement... Stinks. I dont know if its worth looking into if you can get a refund for the i90 fee? Its a weird situation because you can argue that due to their extra long processing times for the i90 it took so long that your card expired. 9 months ahead of the card expiring is a long time to file for a replacement. You can argue the instructions should state somewhere to NOT file the i90 if you dont have X amount of time left before it expires and if you got a NOA receipt for the i90 include it as proof it was a valid submission when you sent it in. It will probably be a headache to ask for the fees back and a lot of back and forth- but theres a chance you might be successful.

I have that thought ask for refund for a second, but my time is better spend elsewhere.

 

[Going through 5,668]

2 minutes ago, Damara said:

Wow you filed the i90 in Dec '16 and didnt get it before ROC in Sept '17?!

I wonder, though if the 4 months or so inbetween didn't help matters...if the i-90 was filed as soon as the card was lost instead of several months later, it may have worked out to @mobilebucky's benefit.

[HonoraryCitizen 179]

Personally if I did not have to travel I would not pay $540 to replace a conditional green card which is valid only for another year. Better things to do with my money. You definitely can get away with it.

[mobilebucky 5]

2 minutes ago, Going through said:

I wonder, though if the 4 months or so inbetween didn't help matters...if the i-90 was filed as soon as the card was lost instead of several months later, it may have worked out to @mobilebucky's benefit.

Who knows, we didn't look for the green card until we have a trip coming up, that is why the wait.  I am just thinking the original poster timeline is really similar to my wife one that is why I suggest he check with the local office first.

[Hypnos 6,576]

USCIS will usually only provide I-551 passport stamps to people with either a pending I-90 or I-751.

[nathan688 4]

29 minutes ago, mobilebucky said:

My wife lost her CR1 card too, I suggest make an info pass appointment and explain the situation and see what they say.  File I90 won't help as that is for replacing lost 10 yr green card.

Thanks for all this info! I think i will do this instead and save some money

[nathan688 4]

15 minutes ago, HonoraryCitizen said:

Personally if I did not have to travel I would not pay $540 to replace a conditional green card which is valid only for another year. Better things to do with my money. You definitely can get away with it.

this is the answer i was looking for! 😄

 

I'm just hoping you don't have to go in and hand in the old green card or something like that. If it's only copies you need then I am good to go.

[AstroCanada 206]

50 minutes ago, nathan688 said:

this is the answer i was looking for! 😄

 

I'm just hoping you don't have to go in and hand in the old green card or something like that. If it's only copies you need then I am good to go.

Please update us with how it goes.  Given how long it's taking to adjudicate I-751's, I wonder what happens if someone loses their card after the ROC has been submitted.

[little immigrant 800]

2 hours ago, Going through said:

$455.. a bit cheaper  😛 

 

The cost can be prohibitive to some, I agree.  I always looked at my GC (when I had one) as just another form of ID, really... kind of like people carrying a drivers licence everywhere...although obviously cheaper to replace a drivers licence (presumably the same amount of hassle!).  Honestly, it felt a bit weird for me the first day I *didn't* have to carry a GC on me anymore...I'd gotten so used to it, having it so long.

I felt the same way that's why I got the passport card now  

 

2 hours ago, nathan688 said:

I have a few copies of the front and the back, yes.

 

Why do they make you carry it everywhere with you and then make it cost $500 to replace? 😭

I'm glad you have copies of the front and back. It will make filing for ROC much easier.

[Going through 5,668]

41 minutes ago, little immigrant said:

I felt the same way that's why I got the passport card now

You know, I *almost* did that, too, just to have some sort of card to carry around.  For about a week before my oath ceremony I was nagging my husband all the time "but when I was a LPR I had to carry this card around with me---how do I prove I'm a citizen????!!!"  lol  Probably didn't help matters that I regularly frequented a profiled area in Queens where ICE had done a few, shall we say, "spot checks" in the past, so my temporary paranoia was running high.

Edited January 12, 2019 by Going through

[Villanelle 4,121]

You CAN NOT get a 551 stamp when you lost your GC with out showing you filed a i90. 

 

It becomes more difficult when you filed for ROC because stamps for proof of status are only given if the combo of NOA+expired card is close to expiring. With out having the card I dont think they will give a stamp. USCIS has policies to prevent people from opting to not pay for a replacement card and get a free stamp instead/

For filing ROC a copy of the card is all thats needed but keep in mind the NOA extends status when presented with the expired card...

[AstroCanada 206]

21 hours ago, Damara said:

You CAN NOT get a 551 stamp when you lost your GC with out showing you filed a i90. 

 

It becomes more difficult when you filed for ROC because stamps for proof of status are only given if the combo of NOA+expired card is close to expiring. With out having the card I dont think they will give a stamp. USCIS has policies to prevent people from opting to not pay for a replacement card and get a free stamp instead/

For filing ROC a copy of the card is all thats needed but keep in mind the NOA extends status when presented with the expired card...

Right, but isn't there a Catch-22 that arises?  If you're in ROC, your current green card is expired.  If you file an I-90, you're asking them to reissue an expired green card--I can't imagine they would do that.  So they can't stamp your passport without the physical green card, and they can't reissue it because it's expired?  

 

I only ask because there was a period of time where I contemplated finding a way to permanently attach my husband's wallet, keys, and mobile phone to his body because of his tendency to lose them.

[Crazy Cat 39,288]

5 minutes ago, AstroCanada said:

Right, but isn't there a Catch-22 that arises?  If you're in ROC, your current green card is expired.  If you file an I-90, you're asking them to reissue an expired green card--I can't imagine they would do that.  So they can't stamp your passport without the physical green card, and they can't reissue it because it's expired?  

 

I only ask because there was a period of time where I contemplated finding a way to permanently attach my husband's wallet, keys, and mobile phone to his body because of his tendency to lose them.

Your Green Card is evidence of your legal status whether it is expired or not......I think they should send a duplicate expired card....but I don't make the rules...😁

Edited January 12, 2019 by missileman

[Villanelle 4,121]

Yup it sure does seem like a catch 22. 

I dont think they will issue a replacement card IF your card is expired but at the same time they wont give you a stamp unless you show you paid the i90 fee... So for people in that situation..IDK? They can try to go to infopass for a stamp and argue they are not eligible to file the i90 since its for an expired card and maybe they will give them a stamp but I believe that they will insist you file (and pay) for the i90 and show them the NOA to get a stamp. I believe when you file for an expired card you get the NOA and then later its denied vs being denied and not even getting a NOA (but I really dont know). Its a weird situation to be in. I do know they do not like for people to avoid paying for the card and get/use free stamps- hence why they have the policy to not give stamps unless you have a NOA for the i90....