Cri and Ir1

[Lace morgan 3]

Can any one tell me if there is any advantage for IR-1 over Cr1 at the embassy during Visa interview?

[Roel 7,192]

No.

Pretty much the only difference is 2 or 10 year green card. 

[Lace morgan 3]

13 minutes ago, Roel said:

No.

Pretty much the only difference is 2 or 10 year green card. 

I was thinking that since those who got married less than two years are given conditional immigrant visa just to be sure their marriage is legitimate which free from fraud, hence they were given 2 years conditional green card. And the scrutiny at the embassy interview differ because the CO wants to be sure that their marriage is genuine which normally what CO base on for denier . On like IR1 who got applied for immigrant visa after 2 years of normal probation time to show a genuine marriage. With that said, i felt that IR1 has more advantages than CR1. This is just my personal opinion and i am open to cretinism  on this issue.

[Hattivatti 35]

At The interview stage none, but after getting to stateside IR1 means 10year card and CR1 for 2 year conditional. Which one you get depends of the lenght of marriage by the time of entry.

 

Advantage on IR1 is you don't need to file to remove the conditions, but most people want to get to spend the time with their loved ones as soon as possible. But as said, it matters not at the embassy interview which category you are.

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[Lace morgan 3]

16 minutes ago, Hattivatti said:

At The interview stage none, but after getting to stateside IR1 means 10year card and CR1 for 2 year conditional. Which one you get depends of the lenght of marriage by the time of entry.

 

Advantage on IR1 is you don't need to file to remove the conditions, but most people want to get to spend the time with their loved ones as soon as possible. But as said, it matters not at the embassy interview which category you are.

Thanks anyway for your answer. But i wasn't satisfied with your answer.

[Lace morgan 3]

1 minute ago, Lace morgan said:

Thanks anyway for your answer. But i wasn't satisfied with your answer.

 

1 minute ago, Lace morgan said:

Thanks anyway for your answer. But i wasn't satisfied with your answer.

The major reasons for deniers are because the marriage is less than 2 years therefore is tend to be under probation or the income does not meet the poverty guide lines. Those are the major reasons of denier. 

[Hattivatti 35]

3 minutes ago, Lace morgan said:

Thanks anyway for your answer. But i wasn't satisfied with your answer.

Quite frankly, it's not my job to satisfy you. Not sure what you are looking for if it's not the information. There honestly is no difference on the interview regardless of the visa category. Only difference is on what happens after you get your Visa. 

[Hattivatti 35]

You don't "choose' which category you fall in to, in any other means but by the time you file the petition, it gets accepted and you receive and activate your visa. Might happen in few months, might take longer than 2 years. 

 

You, for some reason seem to be thinking it's better to wait for 2 years after the marriage to avoid conditional green card because you think those who've been married less than 2 years are scrutinized more? Did you stop to think how odd it is to wait that two years for no good reason before filing? I mean, if you willingly wait 2 years separated of your spouse to avoid conditional green card rather that spend that time building life together with your spouse, it's going to raise some eyebrows. It's like practically ask for people to dig in the case deeper than usual to see why married couple would rather be in different countries than in same place living together. Very suspicious.

 

People get denied visa and/or entry for many reasons. Some makes mistakes on filing, some let our little white lie and it's caught, some don't have finical means, list goes on and on. Everyone is scrutinized the same, regardless of the lenght of marriage.

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[Roel 7,192]

23 minutes ago, Lace morgan said:

 

The major reasons for deniers are because the marriage is less than 2 years therefore is tend to be under probation or the income does not meet the poverty guide lines. Those are the major reasons of denier. 

 

That's not true. 

Think about people who go for fiance visas instead - they are not married at all and yet majority gets approved.

 

There are the same background checks, same questions, same everything no matter if you're married 2 or 5 years or more. You can get denied when you're married 10 years but don't have enough evidences of real relationship anyway. 

 

That's being said. The interview is the same. 

 

Only difference is the expiration period of the green card itself. 

[Lace morgan 3]

14 minutes ago, Hattivatti said:

You don't "choose' which category you fall in to, in any other means but by the time you file the petition, it gets accepted and you receive and activate your visa. Might happen in few months, might take longer than 2 years. 

 

You, for some reason seem to be thinking it's better to wait for 2 years after the marriage to avoid conditional green card because you think those who've been married less than 2 years are scrutinized more? Did you stop to think how odd it is to wait that two years for no good reason before filing? I mean, if you willingly wait 2 years separated of your spouse to avoid conditional green card rather that spend that time building life together with your spouse, it's going to raise some eyebrows. It's like practically ask for people to dig in the case deeper than usual to see why married couple would rather be in different countries than in same place living together. Very suspicious.

 

People get denied visa and/or entry for many reasons. Some makes mistakes on filing, some let our little white lie and it's caught, some don't have finical means, list goes on and on. Everyone is scrutinized the same, regardless of the lenght of marriage.

You are absolutely right on that. What i was trying to point out was the major reason of denier which is making sure the marriage was base on love not for immigration purposes.

[bakphx1 789]

You can start the process at a time when the visa is a CR1, but by the time the person arrives at POE, its been two years and it becomes an IR1.  The time you come through POE determines it, everything up to that point is exactly the same.

[bakphx1 789]

2 hours ago, Hattivatti said:

Quite frankly, it's not my job to satisfy you. Not sure what you are looking for if it's not the information. There honestly is no difference on the interview regardless of the visa category. Only difference is on what happens after you get your Visa. 

When giving free advice, do it with love. 

😜

[NikLR 13,227]

6 hours ago, Hattivatti said:

You don't "choose' which category you fall in to, in any other means but by the time you file the petition, it gets accepted and you receive and activate your visa. Might happen in few months, might take longer than 2 years. 

 

You, for some reason seem to be thinking it's better to wait for 2 years after the marriage to avoid conditional green card because you think those who've been married less than 2 years are scrutinized more? Did you stop to think how odd it is to wait that two years for no good reason before filing? I mean, if you willingly wait 2 years separated of your spouse to avoid conditional green card rather that spend that time building life together with your spouse, it's going to raise some eyebrows. It's like practically ask for people to dig in the case deeper than usual to see why married couple would rather be in different countries than in same place living together. Very suspicious.

 

People get denied visa and/or entry for many reasons. Some makes mistakes on filing, some let our little white lie and it's caught, some don't have finical means, list goes on and on. Everyone is scrutinized the same, regardless of the lenght of marriage.

Actually you can choose what Visa category you fall into.  Even if you file the I-130 immediately after marriage, it is pretty easy to drag the process out for a couple years and enter with an IR1 visa.  For a couple than maybe can live together abroad or who can visit easily or even who have other life commitments they want to finish first, there is no difference.  Can the CO ask? Sure but I have yet to hear of someone being denied for dragging out their process.  

~~moved to IR1/CR1 process and procedures from taxes and finances~~

[pushbrk 12,979]

Since the defining factor that determines whether IR1 or CR1 is how long you've been married, it stands to reason people married more than two years are likely to have MORE evidence of a bona fide relationship to present.  Further, the Consular Officer will KNOW the marriage date and thus, the duration of the marriage.  To the extent the additional evidence and marriage duration impact the Officer's thinking ahead of the actual interview, there may well be less scrutiny in an IR1 case than a CR1 case.  This would depend on the difference in the length of marriage.  I wouldn't expect much difference between a 16 month marriage and one of 25 months.

 

Often, when we are not "satisfied" with answers, the problem is in the way the question was asked. 

 

[Hattivatti 35]

5 hours ago, NikLR said:

Actually you can choose what Visa category you fall into.  Even if you file the I-130 immediately after marriage, it is pretty easy to drag the process out for a couple years and enter with an IR1 visa.  For a couple than maybe can live together abroad or who can visit easily or even who have other life commitments they want to finish first, there is no difference.  Can the CO ask? Sure but I have yet to hear of someone being denied for dragging out their process.  

~~moved to IR1/CR1 process and procedures from taxes and finances~~

Yup, that's what I said. By any other means but timing the filing, it getting approved (that depends on you delivering necessary documents and finishing medical, interview and payments) you receiving visa, and activating it. And yes, there's cases which has been dragged out so long, they've expired and had has to start all over again, so that would fall to category "denied".

 

Pushbrk, very well said there, mate!