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Hello! My name is Alina. A friend of mine recommended this site in my situation.

The thing is that I will marry a man who is US citizen in a country where I am permanently living but I am a citizen of another country.The country where I live( f.e. call it A) doesn't register marriage according to the law that we are both not citizens of A country. Neither me nor my fiance can go to  a country where I am a citizen( call it B).

So,what should I do? Maybe someone had such situation and there is a way to solve it?

Thank everyone in advance.

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If your marriage is not legally registered in the country where the "marriage" took place, then for US Immigration purposes, you are not married.  However, you are too married for a fiancee visa and not married enough for a spouse visa.  Get married legally in some country, then pursue the spouse visa path.

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7 hours ago, alina_na said:

Thank you! So many people who willing to help))

It is not a secret about countries.I just didn't want to confuse someone with it.

I am a citizen of Kazahstan and permanently legally living in Kyrgyzstan.

 

From what I heard, both of you needed official papers stating you are free to marry, from your countries, officially translated to Kyrgyz language.

I'm sure all this info you can find out by calling local marriage department.

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23 minutes ago, Corey911 said:

From what I heard, both of you needed official papers stating you are free to marry, from your countries, officially translated to Kyrgyz language.

I'm sure all this info you can find out by calling local marriage department.

Let's not confuse what is needed to legally marry and what is needed for an I-130 filing in the way of evidence the couple is legally and lawfully married.  The OP stated (a little confused here) either that the country in which they are married DOES NOT register marriages when neither party is a citizen of that country or that THEY did not fulfill the necessary requirements for their marriage to be registered there.  In either case, they are too married for a fiancee visa and not married enough for a spouse visa.  This means they need to legally marry somewhere.  If they have questions about how to do so in a specific country, those are a different topic altogether.

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45 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Let's not confuse what is needed to legally marry and what is needed for an I-130 filing in the way of evidence the couple is legally and lawfully married.  The OP stated (a little confused here) either that the country in which they are married DOES NOT register marriages when neither party is a citizen of that country or that THEY did not fulfill the necessary requirements for their marriage to be registered there.  In either case, they are too married for a fiancee visa and not married enough for a spouse visa.  This means they need to legally marry somewhere.  If they have questions about how to do so in a specific country, those are a different topic altogether.

I was answering regarding getting married in Kyrgystan, with having permanent residence (or so called local registration). I have no clue what is needed for i130 and OP didn't mention this.

 

To OP, you can connect with local ZAGS office or if you both wanted to travel and marry each other somewhere else - the nearest and the cheapest will be Cyprus, again, official papers needed what you are free to marry.

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17 minutes ago, Corey911 said:

I was answering regarding getting married in Kyrgystan, with having permanent residence (or so called local registration). I have no clue what is needed for i130 and OP didn't mention this.

 

To OP, you can connect with local ZAGS office or if you both wanted to travel and marry each other somewhere else - the nearest and the cheapest will be Cyprus, again, official papers needed what you are free to marry.

Yes, their question was quite cryptic.  They cannot marry in her country of residence because THAT country does not register legal marriages when neither party is a Citizen.  They will need to go to a country that WILL legally register their marriage.

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20 hours ago, alina_na said:

Hello! My name is Alina. A friend of mine recommended this site in my situation.

The thing is that I will marry a man who is US citizen in a country where I am permanently living but I am a citizen of another country.The country where I live( f.e. call it A) doesn't register marriage according to the law that we are both not citizens of A country. Neither me nor my fiance can go to  a country where I am a citizen( call it B).

So,what should I do? Maybe someone had such situation and there is a way to solve it?

Thank everyone in advance.

I have been in a very similar situation. I spent a lot of money and time to trying to register marriage in my wife's residing country A, her birth/citizenship country B....pointless and wasteful. Forget it. 
Just get a visa, come to the US and get married in the US where you soon-to-be-husband is from. That is the simplest and best solution. 

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9 minutes ago, MyJourney said:

I have been in a very similar situation. I spent a lot of money and time to trying to register marriage in my wife's residing country A, her birth/citizenship country B....pointless and wasteful. Forget it. 
Just get a visa, come to the US and get married in the US where you soon-to-be-husband is from. That is the simplest and best solution. 

Depending on country of citizenship and/or legal residence, AND personal circumstances, getting a visa to VISIT the US, is not only far from simple, it is often IMPOSSIBLE.

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OP - you said you are a kazakh citizen living in Kyrgyzstan - does kazakhstan have a consulate or embassy in kyrgystan? if yes, check if you can get married at your kazakh embassy or consulate there. if you can, then they should be able to register your marriage and give you the certificate thereafter no?

Passport 17-Feb-22 Drop-off at USPS (expedited processing and shipping) ~ 22-Feb-22 Status: In Process ~ 08-Mar-22 Passport book shipped ~ 09-Mar-22 Status: Approved. Passport book in hand.

N-400     28-Jun-21 Filed online ~ 28-Jun-21 Received NOA + "Biometrics will be re-used" notice ~ 14-Dec-21 Interview scheduled ~ 25-Jan-22 Interview. Approved. Case status: Oath will be scheduled.  ~ 01-Feb-22 Oath scheduled. ~ 14-Feb-22 Oath ceremony.   

ROC        11-Jun-20 Application sent via FedEx ~ 16-Jun-20 Case received ~ 29-Jun-20 (Old) biometrics applied to case ~ 01-Jul-20 NOA ~ 23-Dec-21 Case transferred to new office ~ 25-Jan-22 Combo interview with N400. Case approved. 

AOS        13-Oct -17 Application sent via FedEx ~ 17-Oct-17 Case received ~ 24-Oct-17 Fingerprint fee received ~ 25-Oct-17 NOA1 ~ 17-Nov-17 Biometrics ~ 23-Nov-17 Status "We are scheduling
                 your 
interview" ~ 24-Jul-18 Status "We have scheduled your interview" ~ 28-Jul-18 Interview notice received in the mail  ~ 29-Aug-18 Interview 30-Aug-18 Status "Case was approved" 
                 
04-Sep-18 Received approval / welcome letter in the mail ~04-Sep-18 Status: "Card was mailed to me" ~07-Sep-18 Green card received

EAD/AP  13-Oct Application sent via FedEx ~ 17-Oct Case received ~ 25-Oct NOA1 ~ 17-Nov Biometrics ~ 09-Jan Approved ~ 13-Jan Notice received ~ 18-Jan Combo card received

K1 Visa   28-Jun-17 Case ready (No packet 3 received) ~ 22-Jul Medical ~ 02-Aug Interview (APPROVED!) ~ 03-Aug Visa issued ~ 08-Aug VOH ~ 14-Sep POE (Abu Dhabi) ~ 01-Oct-17 Got married! 

I-129F     17-Feb-17 Petition sent via FedEx ~ 21-Feb-17 Case received ~ 24-Feb-17 NOA1 ~ 30-May-17 NOA2 12-Jun-17 NVC received / Case and Invoice numbers assigned ~ 20-Jun-17 NVC left

 

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Maybe K1 will be easier in this situation?

19 May 2014: Met

25 Sept 2014: Got Engaged

 

K1 and AOS:

Spoiler

 

K-1 Visa:                                                                      AOS:

24 Oct 2014: Mailed I-129f                                                                                                  25 Feb 2015: Mailed AOS package

29 Oct 2014: NOA1                                                                                                                    04 March 2015: Received NOA for AOS/EAD/AP

31 Oct 2014: Alien Registration Number Changed                                                  10 March 2015: AOS/EAD NOA Hardcopy

05 Nov 2014: NOA1 Hard Copy                                                                               19 March 2015: RFE

10 Nov 2014: NOA2                                                                                                 23 March 2015: Biometrics

17 Nov 2014: NOA2 Hard Copy                                                                                24 March 2015: Received RFE letter

24-25 Nov 2014: NVC Received and Case Number Assigned                                     6 April 2015: AP NOA Hardcopy

28 Nov 2014: NVC Left                                                                                            15 May 2015: Mailed RFE response

01 Dec 2014: Consulate received                                                                              19 May 2015: RFE Response Received

08 Dec 2014: Packet 3 Received                                                                                             27 May 2015: EAD/AP Approved

05 Jan 2015: Medical exam                                                                                      03 June 2015: EAD/AP Approval Hardcopy

08 Jan 2015: Interview APPROVED!                                                                         04 June 2015: EAD/AP Combo card in hands

13 Jan 2015: Visa in hands                                                                                        27 June 2015; NPIW letter

26 Jan 2015: PoE (Minneapolis)                                                                                20 Aug 2015: AOS APPROVED! 

18 Feb 2015: Marriage                                                                                              24 Aug 2015: Welcome Notice received

                                                                                                                                 29 Aug 2015: Green card mailed

                                                                                                                                 02 Sep 2015: Green card in hands

 

ROC:

28 July 2017: Mailed ROC package

31 July 2017: NOA1

~ Many months of nothing ~

12 April 2018: Biometrics waived

29 October 2018 ROC APPROVED! :)

 

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25 minutes ago, avrora9002 said:

Maybe K1 will be easier in this situation?

They are very likely "too married" for a K-1. They did actually marry, but just cannot register it in their current country. They're in a weird point between being married and not having proof of that marriage. Getting legally married and having it registered, then going for a CR-1 would be the optimal approach.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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37 minutes ago, geowrian said:

They are very likely "too married" for a K-1. They did actually marry, but just cannot register it in their current country. They're in a weird point between being married and not having proof of that marriage. Getting legally married and having it registered, then going for a CR-1 would be the optimal approach.

I know I said that but on second reading of the original post, they may not be married yet.

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