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Hi. I'm a US citizen originally from Morocco  and I'm trying to apply for a tourist visa for my mother to come visit. 

I'm aware of all the steps and requirements but I have a couple of questions I hope somebody can help with. 

What kinda documents can I send with her to the interview to show I'll be responsible for all her expenses while she's here and that she will be staying at my house?The reason I ask is my mother doesn't have a job and doesn't have much assets to show ties to Morocco other than the fact she's still married to my dad and live together . 

 

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Unfortunately, a tourist visa is all on your mother's burden to prove her ties in Morocco. 

 

You could petition her as a USC to come here for residency if you choose, but just to visit, it will be up to her to show why she will go back, there's nothing you can do to "sponsor" her. 

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Showing the CO documents that you will be totally responsible for all her expenses will not help her case.  In fact, it can harm her chances.  She will have to provide evidence that she will, in fact, return to her country after the visit.  Does she own property, have responsibilities which would require her to return?  

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______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 minute ago, missileman said:

Showing the CO documents that you will be totally responsible for all her expenses will not help her case.  In fact, it can harm her chances.  She will have to provide evidence that she will, in fact, return to her country after the visit.  Does she own property, have responsibilities which would require her to return?  

No unfortunately she doesn't. She's a house wife. And she doesn't wanna come to live here. She just wants to come visit :). I thought having a us citizen son was enough reason to come visit but I see they need guarantees she doesn't intend on staying for good. 

 

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1 minute ago, Tarik said:

No unfortunately she doesn't. She's a house wife. And she doesn't wanna come to live here. She just wants to come visit :). I thought having a us citizen son was enough reason to come visit but I see they need guarantees she doesn't intend on staying for good. 

 

I have read that potential visitors to the US are automatically presumed to be trying to immigrate, so the onus is on them to prove otherwise.  Unfortunately, Morocco is one the more difficult areas for visas.  She will need some strong evidence imo...  Good Luck to you and your family.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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2 minutes ago, missileman said:

I have read that potential visitors to the US are automatically presumed to be trying to immigrate, so the onus is on them to prove otherwise.  Unfortunately, Morocco is one the more difficult areas for visas.  She will need some strong evidence imo...  Good Luck to you and your family.

Haha thx. 

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1 hour ago, Tarik said:

No unfortunately she doesn't. She's a house wife. And she doesn't wanna come to live here. She just wants to come visit :). I thought having a us citizen son was enough reason to come visit but I see they need guarantees she doesn't intend on staying for good. 

 

Which is ironic, because your petitioning for her as your mother would prob get granted, but her coming here to visit would not - in case she were to stay here, which, if she wanted to, you could petition! it doesnt seem logical does it. 

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1 hour ago, Tarik said:

No unfortunately she doesn't. She's a house wife. And she doesn't wanna come to live here. She just wants to come visit :). I thought having a us citizen son was enough reason to come visit but I see they need guarantees she doesn't intend on staying for good.

She doesn't need a particular reason to come to the US to visit. Well, so long as coming here makes sense (i.e. somebody saying they want to visit but their story keeps changing or something would be an issue).

What she really needs is a compelling reason to go home. That's what the CO will care about more.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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6 minutes ago, EandH0904 said:

Which is ironic, because your petitioning for her as your mother would prob get granted, but her coming here to visit would not - in case she were to stay here, which, if she wanted to, you could petition! it doesnt seem logical does it. 

Yeah that's what I was thinking lol. Oh well we're gonna try anyway and see what happens :)

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6 minutes ago, geowrian said:

She doesn't need a particular reason to come to the US to visit. Well, so long as coming here makes sense (i.e. somebody saying they want to visit but their story keeps changing or something would be an issue).

What she really needs is a compelling reason to go home. That's what the CO will care about more.

Yeah I get that. Which having a husband back home should be enough but not to them because some people would just leave their husband and stay in the US. :)

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54 minutes ago, Tarik said:

Yeah I get that. Which having a husband back home should be enough but not to them because some people would just leave their husband and stay in the US. :)

Is that what they call "chain immigration"?

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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3 hours ago, EandH0904 said:

Which is ironic, because your petitioning for her as your mother would prob get granted, but her coming here to visit would not - in case she were to stay here, which, if she wanted to, you could petition! it doesnt seem logical does it. 

Because too many folk have a habit of using tourist visas to avoid having to wait for their immigrant visa

August 2000: We start e-mailing. I'm in Bosnia, she's in Florida

October 29th 2000: She sends me e-mail asking if I would marry her

October 29th 2000(5 seconds later): I say yes

November 2000: She sends me tickets to Orlando for when I get back

December 6th 2000: Return from Bos

December 11th 2000: Fly to Orlando, she meets me at airport

December 22nd 2000: I fly back to UK

January 3rd 2001: She flies to UK (Good times)

Mid February 2001: Pregnancy test Positive

Mid February 2001: She flies back to US

March 2001: Miscarriage, I fly to US on first flight I can get

May 2001: I leave US before my 90 days are up

June 2001: I fly back to US, stopped at airport for questioning as I had only just left

September 2001: Pregnancy test Positive again

September 2001: She falls sick, I make decision to stay to look after her as I am afraid I may have problems getting back in.

April 16th 2002: Our son is born, we start getting stuff together for his passport

March 6th 2003: We leave US for UK as family

Early April 2003: Family troubles make her return to US, I ask Embassy in London about possibilities of returning to US

April 16th 2003: London Embassy informs me that I will be banned from the Visa Waiver Program for 10 years, my little boys first birthday

June 13th 2006: I-129f sent

August 11th 2006: NOA1 Recieved

After our relationship breaks down she admits to me that she had never bothered to start the application process

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2 hours ago, missileman said:

Is that what they call "chain immigration"?

 

2 hours ago, Tarik said:

Not sure. But sounds like it. 

NO. Chain migration is when one immigrant is the reason multiple people in their extended family migrates to the US.

 

For example... Jane Doe marries an American man. She becomes a US citizen then petitions her parents, Then her parents petition their other children (Jane Doe''s brothers and sisters). The spouses and children of Jane Doe's brothers and sisters immigrate as well. Then the spouses of the Jane Doe's siblings want their parents to come to the US. And they want their siblings to come also. And so on, and so on.

 

It may take a heck of a long time but multiple families end up in the US due to one tie.

 

 

“When starting an immigration journey, the best advice is to understand that sacrifices have to be made... whether it is time, money, or separation; or a combination of all.” - Unlockable

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4 hours ago, Tarik said:

Yeah that's what I was thinking lol. Oh well we're gonna try anyway and see what happens :)

And you should try.  My mother-in-law has never worked outside the house, and she has visited us twice from Vietnam.  No issues either time with approvals.  My father-in-law retired and immediately applied for a B-2 (approved).  YMMV, but until you try how can you know whether it will be approved or denied?  

 

Neither have any intent of ever staying in the US, but as others have mentioned the CO must assume an intent to immigrate.   That said, COs are human, and have good days/bad days.  Outside of what the law prescribes, they must make a decision.  My advice is to wear their best clothes, be humble, and take chances at applying.

 

Best of luck!

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