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5 hours ago, bcking said:

Lets do some math! I know numbers are scary, but you can do it!

 

" The first family’s Christmas vacation in 2015 cost taxpayers more than $4.8 million, according to the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch, which obtained Secret Service records after filing Freedom of Information Act requests and a lawsuit. Multiply that cost by eight years, and taxpayers have paid in the range of $35 million to $40 million — at a minimum — for the first family’s tropical vacations. "

 

That is a quote from the Hawaii Christmas vacation article you posted. 4.8 million dollars for his 17 day trip.

 

4.8 divided by 17 = 280,000 dollars per day for Obama's Christmas holidays

 

Now we don't have real numbers for Trump's weekends but the quotes I've seen have been 2-4 million. So lets go with 2 million (low ball it).

 

2 million divided by 2 = 1 million per day for a weekend getaway for trip, of which he has taken 3 (so 6 days) so far.

 

Lets assume he is going to Florida to escape the cold weather, so it is a winter thing. So say he plans to go to Florida on weekends for the months of November - March. Lets say 18 weekends. 72 weekends in a 4 year term. God forbid he goes to 8 years which will make 144 weekends.

 

If he spends 144 weekends in Mar-A-Lago at 2 million dollars per weekend (the lower end of the estimates I've seen), he will spend 288 million dollars in 8 years. Now that is assuming he takes no "extended" holidays beyond weekends. Just the weekends alone would be almost 3 times (2.9x) more than Obama did for all of his travel in 8 years.

 

EDIT: If the 10 million for 3 weekends number from the OP's article is true, we would be talking 480 million dollars in 8 years. Also again assuming he only goes for 18 weekends out of the year to his "Winter White House". Also not including the costs of maintaining NYC for his wife and child while he is in DC. Also not including the costs to protect his children when they go on business trips. Also not including vacations longer than weekends.

 

I think you're in the wrong profession. Well played buddy. 

 

What I would really like to see is a comparison to several presidents, not just Obama. I'm too tired for that though. Like Teddy, I just want a beer but I think if I had one right now I'd probably pass out and I've still got some work to do tonight.

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5 hours ago, ready4ONE said:

Obama was hosting weekend getaway's at his own, private and exclusive members only resort? I know I am getting old, but I don't recall any arguments involving Obama doing any such thing. Link?

You know that club he jointly owned with Saul Alinsky, Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers and the Rev. Wright? That one. Only the classiest, most beautiful ladies, and plenty of Cuban rum and stogies.

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2 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Why I thought Obama should not be able to visit his family but thinks it's ok for Trump. Odd that you can type but not read 

English please, I don't understand what you mean.

 

Donald Trump owns the private, members only club to which he has gone EVERY weekend. Add to that the White House isn't nice enough for Trumps third wife.

 

Arguing over the Obama family going to Hawaii and on other trips was exclusively stupid cheap shots from the Right.

 

The issues regarding the Trump family in just the first month are completely different and the self serving largess for Trump don't really need investigation. No honest person can deny the complete lack of moral compass in Trump.

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I was working on the flightline at Hickam AFB in Hawaii in December of 2014  when the Obama's arrived for their yearly Christmas vacation. The amount of stuff they brought with them and all the cases of French wine on just one of the multiple C-17s carrying their stuff was enough to make me sick and mad at the same time. They were living the high life for sure. 

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48 minutes ago, elmcitymaven said:

You know that club he jointly owned with Saul Alinsky, Frank Marshall Davis, Bill Ayers and the Rev. Wright? That one. Only the classiest, most beautiful ladies, and plenty of Cuban rum and stogies.

I forgot about that one!

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10 minutes ago, Merle said:

I was working on the flightline at Hickam AFB in Hawaii in December of 2014  when the Obama's arrived for their yearly Christmas vacation. The amount of stuff they brought with them and all the cases of French wine on just one of the multiple C-17s carrying their stuff was enough to make me sick and mad at the same time. They were living the high life for sure. 

Seriously ? Cases of wine made you sick but King Trump's spending doesn't ?

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Just now, Ebunoluwa said:

Seriously ? Cases of wine made you sick but King Trump's spending doesn't ?

I was already sickened seeing all the c17s, support personnel, limos, golf clubs, fancy wardrobes, etc. The wine was just a drop in the bucket. Seeing it with my own eyes made me mad knowing they were enjoying the finest in life on the tax payer's dime or by spending money the country doesnt have. All while many in this country were having a hard time making ends meet. 

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3 minutes ago, Merle said:

I was already sickened seeing all the c17s, support personnel, limos, golf clubs, fancy wardrobes, etc. The wine was just a drop in the bucket. Seeing it with my own eyes made me mad knowing they were enjoying the finest in life on the tax payer's dime or by spending money the country doesnt have. All while many in this country were having a hard time making ends meet. 

 

 

But it's ok for Trump to spend 3 times as much ? Are you kidding me ? Please take the partisan blinders off, you will stumble.

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but nowadays wapo might as well be the national enquirer for trump supporters anyway

 

Not really. We have more trust that what the NE reports is true……and we believe almost none of that.

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3 minutes ago, eieio said:

 

Not really. We have more trust that what the NE reports is true……and we believe almost none of that.

Is this Trump speak ?

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Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
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Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
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I can only speak for myself….but on many occasions I said that I wished Obama would golf everyday. It did not matter how much the golfing cost. Any day out of office was a day he did less damage to our country. 

 

As far as Trump goes….he has actually been working every weekend and whatever it costs the we will be repaid tenfold. He is worth every penny. 

 

Now there will become a point where there needs to be some restraint shown as far as going to florida…but it has only been a month so far.

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4 minutes ago, eieio said:

I can only speak for myself….but on many occasions I said that I wished Obama would golf everyday. It did not matter how much the golfing cost. Any day out of office was a day he did less damage to our country. 

 

As far as Trump goes….he has actually been working every weekend and whatever it costs the we will be repaid tenfold. He is worth every penny. 

 

Now there will become a point where there needs to be some restraint shown as far as going to florida…but it has only been a month so far.

How are you benefitting from it personally? What is he doing that will repay you and improve your life? 

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How are you benefitting from it personally? What is he doing that will repay you and improve your life? 

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