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Hi, i'm asking just to see your point of views and to help me take a decision regarding my soon to expire passport

I will be eligible to apply for citizenship in the next few months/weeks, my passport will expire in the next few months right after when i apply in case if i apply for citizenship, i know i don't HAVE to have a valid passport to apply or during my interview or oath ceremony, for some reason i would like to renew my passport in France , i'm not sure if i should just stay focusing in finding job because i just quit mine, and stay and just wait until the end of the Citizenship process then travel probably using us passport, or should i just travel now renew my passport and see family and come back although i know its very stressful choice

what do you think is best to do? i never experienced living in USA with expired passport , i fear this feeling in the future , and in the same time i know traveling internationally is costly and will take too much energy,

Waiting for your advice

Thanks

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If you can use your future US passport right after end of citizenship process, you can just wait, save your money and time, perhaps you will get approved very fast and if needed to travel you will find no problem, if there is a long wait to have US passport after approval (not sure you should check naturalization forums and see ) and you probably will have to travel then may be you should just renew it now and relax

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It seems to me you understand the process of naturalization, and you're simply asking for advice on a life choice...

Nevertheless, I do see a problem. When you apply for naturalization, you have present your passport as evidence for establishing continuous residency in the U.S. If the interview officer sees that you recently renew your French passport for another 10-year, will he or she consider that as unwillingness to given up your allegiance to France?

It's essentially not a big deal, but you'll just hav one more thing to prove.

Hi, i'm asking just to see your point of views and to help me take a decision regarding my soon to expire passport

I will be eligible to apply for citizenship in the next few months/weeks, my passport will expire in the next few months right after when i apply in case if i apply for citizenship, i know i don't HAVE to have a valid passport to apply or during my interview or oath ceremony, for some reason i would like to renew my passport in France , i'm not sure if i should just stay focusing in finding job because i just quit mine, and stay and just wait until the end of the Citizenship process then travel probably using us passport, or should i just travel now renew my passport and see family and come back although i know its very stressful choice

what do you think is best to do? i never experienced living in USA with expired passport , i fear this feeling in the future , and in the same time i know traveling internationally is costly and will take too much energy,

Waiting for your advice

Thanks

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If you can use your future US passport right after end of citizenship process, you can just wait, save your money and time, perhaps you will get approved very fast and if needed to travel you will find no problem, if there is a long wait to have US passport after approval (not sure you should check naturalization forums and see ) and you probably will have to travel then may be you should just renew it now and relax

Thank you for your unswer, am asking myself all these questions

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It seems to me you understand the process of naturalization, and you're simply asking for advice on a life choice...

Nevertheless, I do see a problem. When you apply for naturalization, you have present your passport as evidence for establishing continuous residency in the U.S. If the interview officer sees that you recently renew your French passport for another 10-year, will he or she consider that as unwillingness to given up your allegiance to France?

It's essentially not a big deal, but you'll just hav one more thing to prove.

Thanks for your reply,

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It seems to me you understand the process of naturalization, and you're simply asking for advice on a life choice...

Nevertheless, I do see a problem. When you apply for naturalization, you have present your passport as evidence for establishing continuous residency in the U.S. If the interview officer sees that you recently renew your French passport for another 10-year, will he or she consider that as unwillingness to given up your allegiance to France?

It's essentially not a big deal, but you'll just hav one more thing to prove.

One does not have to give up one's birth country citizenship or passport in order to naturalize.


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One does not have to give up one's birth country citizenship or passport in order to naturalize.

This is correct; furthermore, renewing your foreign passport before or after naturalization has nothing to do with allegiance to the US. It is allowed and the US doesn't really care how many other passports you have. The US only cares that you give up allegiance to all other countries, but you can keep your nationalities and even acquire new ones.


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In reality, yes, but when you take the oath of allegiance, you'd verbally say that you're giving up allegiance to other countries, and you have to prove that you're willing to do so.

Normally, it's enough proof if we say yes to that question, but when you renew your passport months before you apply to naturalize, you're certainly showing more likelihood of claiming to be another country's citizen in the near future because the officer knows you don't have to give up your passport.

Of course I know U.S. citizens can have dual citizenship--I'm just saying if we can give the officer fewer reasons to doubt us, then let's do so. Don't give him or her more reasons to doubt unless we have to...

One does not have to give up one's birth country citizenship or passport in order to naturalize.

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This is correct; furthermore, renewing your foreign passport before or after naturalization has nothing to do with allegiance to the US. It is allowed and the US doesn't really care how many other passports you have. The US only cares that you give up allegiance to all other countries, but you can keep your nationalities and even acquire new ones.

In reality, yes, but when you take the oath of allegiance, you'd verbally say that you're giving up allegiance to other countries, and you have to prove that you're willing to do so.

Normally, it's enough proof if we say yes to that question, but when you renew your passport months before you apply to naturalize, you're certainly showing more likelihood of claiming to be another country's citizen in the near future because the officer knows you don't have to give up your passport.

Of course I know U.S. citizens can have dual citizenship--I'm just saying if we can give the officer fewer reasons to doubt us, then let's do so. Don't give him or her more reasons to doubt unless we have to...

JimmyHou is right. I'm not going to argue, because it's useless. Having a new passport from the birth country DOES NOT "make the officer doubt you." Edited by EM_Vandaveer

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NOA1 date 10/20/2014

Biometrics date 11/14/2014

Early walk-in biometrics 11/12/2014

In-line for interview 11/23/2014

Interview letter 03/18/2015

Interview date 04/17/2015 ("Decision cannot yet be made.")

In-line for oath scheduling 05/04/2015

Oath ceremony letter dated 05/11/2015

Oath ceremony 06/02/2015

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JimmiHou is right. I'm not going to argue, because it's useless. Having a new passport from the birth country DOES NOT "make the officer doubt you."

This is correct.

There's no issue here. There's no doubt. Carrying a passport and allegiance have nothing to do with one another. Two completely separate issues.


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Hi, i'm asking just to see your point of views and to help me take a decision regarding my soon to expire passport

I will be eligible to apply for citizenship in the next few months/weeks, my passport will expire in the next few months right after when i apply in case if i apply for citizenship, i know i don't HAVE to have a valid passport to apply or during my interview or oath ceremony, for some reason i would like to renew my passport in France , i'm not sure if i should just stay focusing in finding job because i just quit mine, and stay and just wait until the end of the Citizenship process then travel probably using us passport, or should i just travel now renew my passport and see family and come back although i know its very stressful choice

what do you think is best to do? i never experienced living in USA with expired passport , i fear this feeling in the future , and in the same time i know traveling internationally is costly and will take too much energy,

Waiting for your advice

Thanks

Why do you feel you need to go all the way to France to renew. There are 10 French consulates in the US. Google French embassy in US.

Matters not you have a renewed passport I have many Nigerians friends who have renewed their passport before they file for citizenship. It;s not an issue.


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It seems to me you understand the process of naturalization, and you're simply asking for advice on a life choice...

Nevertheless, I do see a problem. When you apply for naturalization, you have present your passport as evidence for establishing continuous residency in the U.S. If the interview officer sees that you recently renew your French passport for another 10-year, will he or she consider that as unwillingness to given up your allegiance to France?

It's essentially not a big deal, but you'll just hav one more thing to prove.

strangest answer, EVER! The US allows for dual citizenship so if the OP renews his French passport it will have no bearing whatsoever on his US naturalization!! If you do not know the answer to a question it is best not to answer.!!!!



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If holding another country's passport undoubtedly has nothing to do with allegiance to the U.S., then why can't we run for the President then?

Yes, many U.S. citizens have dual citizenship, I'm aware of that, so there's no need for anyone to sound condescending here. USCIS officers are aware of that too, so 99.99% of the time, it's a non-issue.

Nevertheless, immigration cases are always adjudicated on a case-by-case basis, we never know what kind of an officer we're going to meet. Therefore, even though it's OK for U.S. citizens to have dual citizenship, your intention to do so should at least be down-played during the naturalization process, and to show a newly-renewed foreign passport is not down-playing it. If anyone think it's 100% not a big deal, tell the officer that you can't wait to hold two passports at the same time. I dare you.

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If holding another country's passport undoubtedly has nothing to do with allegiance to the U.S., then why can't we run for the President then?

Yes, many U.S. citizens have dual citizenship, I'm aware of that, so there's no need for anyone to sound condescending here. USCIS officers are aware of that too, so 99.99% of the time, it's a non-issue.

Nevertheless, immigration cases are always adjudicated on a case-by-case basis, we never know what kind of an officer we're going to meet. Therefore, even though it's OK for U.S. citizens to have dual citizenship, your intention to do so should at least be down-played during the naturalization process, and to show a newly-renewed foreign passport is not down-playing it. If anyone think it's 100% not a big deal, tell the officer that you can't wait to hold two passports at the same time. I dare you.

You should probably stop posting your dubious replies. Your assumptions about passport renewal prior to naturalization are incorrect and not helping the OP.

OP, renew your passport at the embassy in the US. It won't require the trip to France.

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In reality, yes, but when you take the oath of allegiance, you'd verbally say that you're giving up allegiance to other countries, and you have to prove that you're willing to do so.

Normally, it's enough proof if we say yes to that question, but when you renew your passport months before you apply to naturalize, you're certainly showing more likelihood of claiming to be another country's citizen in the near future because the officer knows you don't have to give up your passport.

Of course I know U.S. citizens can have dual citizenship--I'm just saying if we can give the officer fewer reasons to doubt us, then let's do so. Don't give him or her more reasons to doubt unless we have to...

Thanks for your answer, but renewing my passport has nothing to do with giving allegiance to my country or any other country

Why do you feel you need to go all the way to France to renew. There are 10 French consulates in the US. Google French embassy in US.

Matters not you have a renewed passport I have many Nigerians friends who have renewed their passport before they file for citizenship. It;s not an issue.

You are right,

I'm right that the naturalization process doesn't require a valid foreign passport?

You should probably stop posting your dubious replies. Your assumptions about passport renewal prior to naturalization are incorrect and not helping the OP.

OP, renew your passport at the embassy in the US. It won't require the trip to France.

Thanks , i will ,

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