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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Jamaica
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I don't know how it works in the UK but in Jamaica the processing time for K1 Visa is 60-90 days for a interview while IR1 have to wait 150-190 days for a interview. The benefits of having done a K1 visa is obviously better than having a IR1 my reason for saying this is that with the quick response of submitting the documents to the NVC, it is clear that no matter what K1 applicants will be united with their spouse in a quick and timely fashion for I-130 we have to wait forever. And why should it be a problem to file for AOS when you are united with each other. That would be the least of my problems because at least you guys are together which is a good thing. I would not care if it took me sometime to get AOS when I'm lucky to have the opportunity to be with my husband while everything you s finalize. Every true relationship would want to be with their spouse so I was not hitting out against K1 applicants who have a true marital relationship but the ones who do this process for other reasons.

There are also I130 filers who have fake marriages.and pay the USC thousand of dollars to marry them. It appears you are begrudged at the time you need to wait for your husband. K1 filers are faced with different challenges trust me. I have been through the ringer. The process is not fair to any filers if you ask me. but to openly make a statement about false relationships with K1 filers when any relationship can be deemed as such. It took me and my husband about 7 months from beginning to end and several trips to Jamaica and being interrogated for hours in separate rooms like SPYS. so it does upset me to hear that you believe most K1's are done for false green cards. I can only speak for myself. Why did you not file for K1 if you had a problem with the wait time for I130. It is what it is. We do not make the rules, half the time they don't even know what the rules are but in any case instead of attacking the process, My suggestion is to brace the fact that your husband will be with you soon and take joy in that. Good luck to you.

Honest and true K1 filer here who rolled with the punches.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Jamaica
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I have to say that I agree with the original post. Those who are already married should have faster processing time than those who are engaged, since engagements are typically a year or more. Being married and apart is a lot harder than being engaged and apart. Not saying any are fake because any of them can be. The whole process needs to be revamped for both types.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Denmark
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I have to say that I agree with the original post. Those who are already married should have faster processing time than those who are engaged, since engagements are typically a year or more. Being married and apart is a lot harder than being engaged and apart.

WHAT?? How can you judge if it's harder to be apart because of a paper? ... I do believe it's hard for EVERYBODY to be apart no matter what!

 

 

 

 

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I have to say that I agree with the original post. Those who are already married should have faster processing time than those who are engaged, since engagements are typically a year or more. Being married and apart is a lot harder than being engaged and apart.

Have you read a single reply, though? I think a lot of people agree (but more on that in a moment*), but that's just not possible. The reason is because spouses get green cards on arrival, and fiance's don't, and the green card processing (NVC stage) is about 6 months. No surprise that spouse visas take about 6 months longer.

Look here for spouse processing times (step 3, NVC-- where immigrant visas are processed) vs here for fiance processing times (step 4, NVC). This is because spouse visas are immigrant visas (the aforementioned green card on arrival) and fiance visas are not. NVC simply routes the application to the correct embassy-- no processing needed. They're not expedited through NVC--- they don't get worked on there at all. That's because fiances do the work/waiting for green cards in the US.

Now, should NVC work faster? Probably. But there's a backlog in the system. Are there any other classes of immigrant visas that are processed through NVC faster than spouses? If so, *THAT* is where your anger should be focused. That's where the time discrepancy between spouses and fiances is, and if they're processing adult children of US nationals faster than they are processing spouses of US citizens (spoiler alert: they're not, at least not that specific example), then that's an issue.

Did we *want* to get married earlier? Yes. Did we *want* a green card on arrival? Yes. Did we *want* to be together as fast as possible? Also, yes. Unfortunately for us, and you, and literally everyone on this forum, those three things don't all happen together. You have to choose. Marry now and green card on arrival, or together as fast as possible? If being together as fast as possible was the priority, then you may have chosen wrong. Or if it was merely "a" priority (as it is for 100% of legitimate couples), but the practical priorities won out--- then, sorry. I commiserate with having to have made a choice between sucky options. We're all kinds of annoyed at the slow/expensive AOS process and the financial havoc this is wrecking BUT we still wouldn't trade it for being able to be together sooner. So we're paying the price for our decision now, and you're paying for yours now. Yay. Isn't immigration fun?

*And a quick side note: people *really* have to rethink this whole "already married= stronger relationship" thing. It is just as easy to meet someone online, fly to their country, spend 3 days together and get married as it is to follow that same path and "just" get engaged. People do it all the time (both insta-marriages and insta-engagemetns). It is also just as likely that a couple has been together, unmarried for 5 years and then chose the fiance visa route for time considerations as a couple that has been together, unmarried for 5 years, then decided to get married and THEN chose (or were forced to choose) the spouse visa route. You really never do know what a relationship is like and visa category is probably the worst way to try to ascertain that information.

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Marriage/ AOS Timeline:

23 Dec 2015: Legal marriage

23 Jan 2016: Wedding!

23 Jan 2016: "Blizzard of the Century", wedding canceled/rescheduled (thank goodness we were legally married first or we'd have had a big problem!) :sleepy:

24 Jan 2016: Small "civil ceremony" with friends and family who were snowed in with us. December was a bit of a secret and people had traveled internationally and knew we *had* to get married that weekend, and our December legal marriage was nothing but signing a piece of paper at our priest's kitchen table, without any sort of vows etc so this was actually a very special (if not legally significant) day. (L)

16 Apr 2016: Filed for AOS and EAD/AP (We delayed a bit-- no big rush, enjoying the USCIS break)

23 Apr 2016: Wedding! Finally! :luv:

27 Apr 2016: Electronic NOA1 for all 3 :dancing:
29 Apr 2016: NOA1 Hardcopy for all 3
29 Jul 2016: Online service request for late EAD (Day 104)
29 Jul 2016: EAD/AP Approved ~3 hours after online service request
04 Aug 2016: RFE for Green Card (requested medicals/ vaccination record. They already have it). :ranting:
05 Aug 2016: EAD/AP Combo Card arrived! (Day 111)
08 Aug 2016: Congressional constituent request to get guidance on the RFE. Hoping they see they have the form and approve!

K-1 Visa Timeline:

PLEASE NOTE. This timeline was during the period of time when TSC was working on I-129fs and had a huge backlog. The average processing time was 210+ days. This is in no way predictive of your own timeline if you filed during or after April 2015, unless CSC develops a backlog. A backlog is anything above the 5-month goal time listed on USCIS's site

14 Feb 2015: Mailed I-129f to Dallas Lockbox. (L) (Most expensive Valentine's card I've ever sent!)

17 Feb 2015: NOA1 "Received Date"
19 Feb 2015: NOA1 Notice Date
08 Aug 2015: NOA2 email! :luv: (173 days from NOA1)

17 Aug 2015: Sent to NVC

?? Aug 2015: Arrived at NVC

25 Aug 2015: NVC Case # Assigned

31 Aug 2015: Left NVC for Consulate in San Jose

09 Sep 2015: Consulate received :dancing: (32 days from NOA2)

11 Sep 2015: Packet 3 emailed from embassy to me, the petitioner (34 days from NOA2).

18 Sep 2015: Medicals complete

21 Sep 2015: Packet 3 complete, my boss puts a temporary moratorium on all time off due to work emergency :clock:

02 Oct 2015: Work emergency clears up, interview scheduled (soonest available was 5 business days away--Columbus Day was in there)

13 Oct 2015: Interview

13 Oct 2015: VISA APPROVED :thumbs: (236 days from NOA1)

19 Oct 2015: Visa-in-hand

24 Oct 2015: POE !

15 Dec 2015: Fiance's mother's B-2 visa interview: APPROVED! So happy she will be at the wedding! :thumbs:

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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WHAT?? How can you judge if it's harder to be apart because of a paper? ... I do believe it's hard for EVERYBODY to be apart no matter what!

Amen !

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Cyprus
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I envision a child saying ' your slice is bigger than mine'. No offense but people saying fiances should be considered second to married just irks

the heck out of me.

Spoiler

 

I-129F Sent : 3-31-2014, NOA2: 4-6-2014

NVC Received : some dinkelsberry yehoo in the house of clingons send our petition to the wrong consulate.

Consulate Received : July 30,2014 Transfer to right embassy complete.

Interview Date : Oct 22, 2014

Interview Result : AP , requesting another PC (not expired) and certified divorce decree (was submitted)Stokes interview via phone for petitioner 4 hrs after interview.

Oct 23 email notification visa approved.
Visa Received : Nov. 3 , 2014 VISA IN HAND.

US Entry : Nov. 21, 2014

Marriage : Dec 27, 2014

AOS send : May 12, 2015, received May 14, 2015 USPS priority

Email &text : May 18, 2015, check cashed May 19,2015, return receipt May 21, 2015 stamped USCIS Lockbox, NOA1 (3x) May 22,2015

Biometrics : June 1, 2015 letter received for appointment June 8, 2015, successful walk-in June 1, 2015

RFE : June 12, 2015 for income not meeting guideline. Income does ( ! ) exceed guideline.

RFE response : June 26, 2015 returned with a boat load full of financial evidence.

UPDATE: July 5, 2015 updated on all 3 cases, RFE received June 30, 2015.

Service request : Aug 12, 2015, letter received that it will be processed within 90 days from receipt of RFE.

UPDATE: Aug 24, 2015, EAD card being produced/ordered. ( 102 days from AOS receipt day and 55 days from RFE response received.) Thank you Jesus !

Emails : Aug 24, 2015, EAD approved, EAD card ordered.

I-797 EAD/AP approval notice received : Aug 27, 2015

EAD/AP combo card mailed : Aug 27, 2015, EAD/AP combo card received: Aug 31, 2015

Renewal application send for EAD/AP : May 31,2016 (AOS pending over 1 year). Received June 2, 2016,Notice date June7, 2016, emails,texts, NOA1 hard copy

Service request for pending AOS April 21, 2016, case not assigned yet.
Service request for pending AOS June 14, 2016, tier 2 said performing background checks.
Expedite request for EAD/AP Aug 3, 2016, Aug10 notification >request was received, assigned, completed. RFE letter requesting evidence for expedite, docs faxed Aug18

*Service request for I-485 Aug 3, 2016, Aug11 notification> request was assigned. Service request Dec 2, 2016.
AOS Interview letter received Aug 12, 2016

AOS Interview September 21, 2016.

Second Biometrics appointment letters received for EAD and AOS on Aug 15, 2016 for Aug 17 ( 2 day notice).

Second Biometrics completed Aug 17, 2016

Third Biometrics appointment letter received Aug 19, 2016 for Sept. 1, 2016. WTH ?!

EAD/AP (renewal) approval Aug 22, 2016, NOA2 received Aug 25, 2016

Renewal EAD in production notification text and online, expedite successful 4 days after RFE request response was faxed, Aug25mailed,Aug29received.

Sept. 21 Interview, 2 hour interview, we were separated and asked about 50 questions each for an hour each. IO was firm but professional, some smiles.
Several service requests made, contacted Senator and Ombudsman. Background checks still pending.
July 21, 2017 HOME VISIT.  Went well. Topic thread in AOS forum.
Waiting to skip ROC and get 10 yr GC due to over 2 year while pending AOS
AOS APPROVED Oct. 4, 2017 * Green card in hand Oct 13, 2017 !!!!!

First K1 denied after 16 month of AP. Refiled. We are a couple since 2009. Not a sprint but a matter of endurance.

 

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Not everyone has a choice of visa paths guys. If you were already married there is not choice. Are you guys really suggesting people already married get divorced to do the K1? ROFL.

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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Not everyone has a choice of visa paths guys. If you were already married there is not choice. Are you guys really suggesting people already married get divorced to do the K1? ROFL.

No.. but common sense should be involved. You are knowingly entering into a relationship with someone from another country. Probably should start to look at different options BEFORE just getting married and then getting stuck with one route that you aren't happy about.

We researched both options before deciding on the K1.

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Newsflash...life isn't fair!

Am I alone in thinking that it's perfectly fair that people who apply for the process where POE is Step 3 (instead of Step 4) get to POE in a shorter period of time?

Think about it this way: the DMV provides both state-IDs and driver's licences (which can be used as state IDs, obviously). To get a driver's licence you must prove that you are legally present, a resident of the state, etc AND take a driver's test. There's no appointments for driver's tests for another two months. State IDs can be had same-day, as long as you prove your legal presence and your residence of the state.

Paul wants a government issued ID as soon as humanly possible (I don't know, so he can buy beer. Paul likes beer). Paul also wants to be able to drive eventually. So, Paul ponies up $100 for the state ID, makes an appointment for his driver's test in a couple of months (when he'll pay $200 for the licence) and goes on his merry way.

Sue also wants to one day be able to buy beer and have a driver's licence. She's not in as big of a rush as Paul on the beer, and her main priority is really the driver's licence. She figures she can wait to have an ID until she gets her driver's licences-- she'll kill two birds with one stone-- she'll save herself a trip to the DMV and save $100 in the process. She makes her appointment for her driver's test in a couple of months.

Sue doesn't get to complain when she sees Paul hanging out at the bar. Paul didn't get the end result (driver's licence) any faster than she will. He got something different (state-issued ID) faster than she will get her driver's licence but that's because he applied for it and paid for it and she didn't. They will both wait 2 months for their driver's licence. If Sue wanted to be able to go out to the bar, Sue should have applied for a state-issued ID.

Marriage/ AOS Timeline:

23 Dec 2015: Legal marriage

23 Jan 2016: Wedding!

23 Jan 2016: "Blizzard of the Century", wedding canceled/rescheduled (thank goodness we were legally married first or we'd have had a big problem!) :sleepy:

24 Jan 2016: Small "civil ceremony" with friends and family who were snowed in with us. December was a bit of a secret and people had traveled internationally and knew we *had* to get married that weekend, and our December legal marriage was nothing but signing a piece of paper at our priest's kitchen table, without any sort of vows etc so this was actually a very special (if not legally significant) day. (L)

16 Apr 2016: Filed for AOS and EAD/AP (We delayed a bit-- no big rush, enjoying the USCIS break)

23 Apr 2016: Wedding! Finally! :luv:

27 Apr 2016: Electronic NOA1 for all 3 :dancing:
29 Apr 2016: NOA1 Hardcopy for all 3
29 Jul 2016: Online service request for late EAD (Day 104)
29 Jul 2016: EAD/AP Approved ~3 hours after online service request
04 Aug 2016: RFE for Green Card (requested medicals/ vaccination record. They already have it). :ranting:
05 Aug 2016: EAD/AP Combo Card arrived! (Day 111)
08 Aug 2016: Congressional constituent request to get guidance on the RFE. Hoping they see they have the form and approve!

K-1 Visa Timeline:

PLEASE NOTE. This timeline was during the period of time when TSC was working on I-129fs and had a huge backlog. The average processing time was 210+ days. This is in no way predictive of your own timeline if you filed during or after April 2015, unless CSC develops a backlog. A backlog is anything above the 5-month goal time listed on USCIS's site

14 Feb 2015: Mailed I-129f to Dallas Lockbox. (L) (Most expensive Valentine's card I've ever sent!)

17 Feb 2015: NOA1 "Received Date"
19 Feb 2015: NOA1 Notice Date
08 Aug 2015: NOA2 email! :luv: (173 days from NOA1)

17 Aug 2015: Sent to NVC

?? Aug 2015: Arrived at NVC

25 Aug 2015: NVC Case # Assigned

31 Aug 2015: Left NVC for Consulate in San Jose

09 Sep 2015: Consulate received :dancing: (32 days from NOA2)

11 Sep 2015: Packet 3 emailed from embassy to me, the petitioner (34 days from NOA2).

18 Sep 2015: Medicals complete

21 Sep 2015: Packet 3 complete, my boss puts a temporary moratorium on all time off due to work emergency :clock:

02 Oct 2015: Work emergency clears up, interview scheduled (soonest available was 5 business days away--Columbus Day was in there)

13 Oct 2015: Interview

13 Oct 2015: VISA APPROVED :thumbs: (236 days from NOA1)

19 Oct 2015: Visa-in-hand

24 Oct 2015: POE !

15 Dec 2015: Fiance's mother's B-2 visa interview: APPROVED! So happy she will be at the wedding! :thumbs:

!

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Filed: Other Country: Canada
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No.. but common sense should be involved. You are knowingly entering into a relationship with someone from another country. Probably should start to look at different options BEFORE just getting married and then getting stuck with one route that you aren't happy about.

We researched both options before deciding on the K1.

Let's be honest, but people marry all of the time and do zero research about it. Usually once a month or so people come on here horrified that thy cannot stay with their spouse in often their first year of marriage or that their spouse simply cannot enter and adjust or even that their spouse doesn't have automatic citizenship. Knowledge is power.

Am I alone in thinking that it's perfectly fair that people who apply for the process where POE is Step 3 (instead of Step 4) get to POE in a shorter period of time?

Think about it this way: the DMV provides both state-IDs and driver's licences (which can be used as state IDs, obviously). To get a driver's licence you must prove that you are legally present, a resident of the state, etc AND take a driver's test. There's no appointments for driver's tests for another two months. State IDs can be had same-day, as long as you prove your legal presence and your residence of the state.

Paul wants a government issued ID as soon as humanly possible (I don't know, so he can buy beer. Paul likes beer). Paul also wants to be able to drive eventually. So, Paul ponies up $100 for the state ID, makes an appointment for his driver's test in a couple of months (when he'll pay $200 for the licence) and goes on his merry way.

Sue also wants to one day be able to buy beer and have a driver's licence. She's not in as big of a rush as Paul on the beer, and her main priority is really the driver's licence. She figures she can wait to have an ID until she gets her driver's licences-- she'll kill two birds with one stone-- she'll save herself a trip to the DMV and save $100 in the process. She makes her appointment for her driver's test in a couple of months.

Sue doesn't get to complain when she sees Paul hanging out at the bar. Paul didn't get the end result (driver's licence) any faster than she will. He got something different (state-issued ID) faster than she will get her driver's licence but that's because he applied for it and paid for it and she didn't. They will both wait 2 months for their driver's licence. If Sue wanted to be able to go out to the bar, Sue should have applied for a state-issued ID.

I agree with you, but the criers of unfair need to be reminded that life isn't indeed fair

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Let's be honest, but people marry all of the time and do zero research about it. Usually once a month or so people come on here horrified that thy cannot stay with their spouse in often their first year of marriage or that their spouse simply cannot enter and adjust or even that their spouse doesn't have automatic citizenship. Knowledge is power.

I agree with you, but the criers of unfair need to be reminded that life isn't indeed fair

100% agree!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Perhaps a high speed processing option fr those willing to pay, like there are for work visa's where they get a reply in 10 days?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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