Muslim Scholars Release Open Letter To Islamic State Meticulously Blasting Its Ideology

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/24/muslim-scholars-islamic-state_n_5878038.html?cps=gravity

WASHINGTON (RNS) More than 120 Muslim scholars from around the world joined an open letter to the “fighters and followers” of the Islamic State, denouncing them as un-Islamic by using the most Islamic of terms.

Relying heavily on the Quran, the 18-page letter released Wednesday (Sept. 24) picks apart the extremist ideology of the militants who have left a wake of brutal death and destruction in their bid to establish a transnational Islamic state in Iraq and Syria.

Even translated into English, the letter will still sound alien to most Americans, said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council of American-Islamic Relations, who released it in Washington with 10 other American Muslim religious and civil rights leaders.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/24/muslim-scholars-islamic-state_n_5878038.html?cps=gravity

WASHINGTON (RNS) More than 120 Muslim scholars from around the world joined an open letter to the “fighters and followers” of the Islamic State, denouncing them as un-Islamic by using the most Islamic of terms.

Relying heavily on the Quran, the 18-page letter released Wednesday (Sept. 24) picks apart the extremist ideology of the militants who have left a wake of brutal death and destruction in their bid to establish a transnational Islamic state in Iraq and Syria.

Even translated into English, the letter will still sound alien to most Americans, said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council of American-Islamic Relations, who released it in Washington with 10 other American Muslim religious and civil rights leaders.

Marv,

you are breaking with the agreed upon code that we will not publish material that possibly paints "islamicists" in a light that presents them as normal people without a radical agenda to subvert and destroy everything western civilization holds dear. At least I assumed it was the code based on what has been posted in the past.

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Marv,

you are breaking with the agreed upon code that we will not publish material that possibly paints "islamicists" in a light that presents them as normal people without a radical agenda to subvert and destroy everything western civilization holds dear. At least I assumed it was the code based on what has been posted in the past.

I'm gangsta like that.

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The letter is amazing. I actually read it.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Marvin, please stop trying to make it sound like blacks and Muslims are like regular people.

[Pooky 3,355]

Good

Shout it loud and shout it clear. The world needs to hear this, whether the media wants to carry this or not.

Add to the the story of the comat pilot from the UAE, who is both Muslim and female (http://m.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29367214) and you might give some of the serial detractors pause for thought.

[We Keep Receipts 9,238]

Good

Shout it loud and shout it clear. The world needs to hear this, whether the media wants to carry this or not.

Add to the the story of the comat pilot from the UAE, who is both Muslim and female (http://m.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29367214) and you might give some of the serial detractors pause for thought.

Nope. The folks that are laser focused on Islam won't see this. It's not helpful to their cause.

Marvin, please stop trying to make it sound like blacks and Muslims are like regular people.

You got 5 months. Then I'm cutting you.

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Did it mention death to infidels and god is great?

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Did it mention death to infidels and god is great?

Click on the link and scroll down. You'll see what it says.

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13. It is forbidden in Islam to force people to convert.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/24/muslim-scholars-islamic-state_n_5878038.html?cps=gravity

that's what the scholars say.

The Qur'an:

Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last "revelations" that Muhammad handed down.

Sura (9:5) "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them..." Prayer and charity are among the Five Pillars of Islam, as salat and zakat. See below.

Sura (9:12) - (Continued from above) "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion" This confirms that Muhammad is speaking of conversion to Islam.

Sura (2:193) - "And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers." The key phrase is to fight until "religion be only for Allah."

http://histo2000.tripod.com/thereligionofpeace/index/www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/013-forced-conversion.htm

Edited September 25, 2014 by Dan and Judy

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You are allowed to lie to infidels.

[eieio 1,594]

"And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers."

Must be fake

The quran only speaks about peace

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13. It is forbidden in Islam to force people to convert.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/24/muslim-scholars-islamic-state_n_5878038.html?cps=gravity

that's what the scholars say.

The Qur'an:

Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last "revelations" that Muhammad handed down.

Sura (9:5) "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them..." Prayer and charity are among the Five Pillars of Islam, as salat and zakat. See below.

Sura (9:12) - (Continued from above) "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion" This confirms that Muhammad is speaking of conversion to Islam.

Sura (2:193) - "And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers." The key phrase is to fight until "religion be only for Allah."

http://histo2000.tripod.com/thereligionofpeace/index/www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/013-forced-conversion.htm

you're quoting/linking to a site that's been blocked by vj moderation in the past because of its hate speech slant,fyi.

It's curious that the verses contained in this particular passage specifying the very precise and provisional self defense clauses to these verses are excluded, and instead random ones have been cherry picked sans context. I'm sure that was accidental.

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You are allowed to lie to infidels.

No, one is not.

Taqiyya actually refers to a controversial minority doctrine or dispensation that allows for an individual to conceal their faith when under threat, persecution or compulsion. Even those who believe that taqiyyah is possible under such circumstances place severe limits on the possibility and see it as an option that represents the lesser of two evils. The possibility of using taqiyya even in a situation where your life is endangered is not accepted by all scholars or schools of law.

http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/the_taqiyya_libel_against_muslims/

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you're quoting/linking to a site that's been blocked by vj moderation in the past because of its hate speech slant,fyi.

It's curious that the verses contained in this particular passage specifying the very precise and provisional self defense clauses to these verses are excluded, and instead random ones have been cherry picked sans context. I'm sure that was accidental.

No, one is not.

Taqiyya actually refers to a controversial minority doctrine or dispensation that allows for an individual to conceal their faith when under threat, persecution or compulsion. Even those who believe that taqiyyah is possible under such circumstances place severe limits on the possibility and see it as an option that represents the lesser of two evils. The possibility of using taqiyya even in a situation where your life is endangered is not accepted by all scholars or schools of law.

http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/the_taqiyya_libel_against_muslims/

Thank you sandinista. Where did everyone go?