Visa Refusal @ U.S Embassy Manila

[rose143 0]

it says on the form that they did not have past the number of evidence.. We juz dnt get it coz if they didnt submit the required evidence then why did the service center not send them rfe or why did they get the approval?

Hi...i guess same thing happened to my friend or is that same person that we are referring now?..She was having an interviewed last Oct.11 under K1 and her visa was said refused and and the consul issued waiver to her saying " 221g for not meting in person for the past 2 yrs prior they filed the petition",the question was, Why the service center never issued RFE to them? and why the embassy did that?..she just confused and she ask an advise now. She just let me post it here on her behalf...any advise here ?thank you so much

[rose143 0]

Did the embassy gave her a 221g form? I never read here that they deny a k1 visa instead asking more papers. Did they gave back the passport to her? I felt sorry for her.

Hi Sweetrose, the consul issued her 221g..what does it mean?

[rose143 0]

Hi...in behalf of my friend i just want to share the result of her interview ..She was having an interview last Oct.11 under K1 and her visa was said refused and and the consul issued waiver to her saying " 221g for not meting in person for the past 2 yrs prior they filed the petition",the question was, Why the service center never issued RFE to them? and why the embassy did that?..she just confused and she ask an advise now. She just let me post it here on her behalf...any advise here ?thank you so much

[sweetrose 1]

Hi Sweetrose, the consul issued her 221g..what does it mean?

I got a 221g form and they did not asked more documents and i have a visa after 7 days of my interview. Its very confusing why they refused the petition? Is it all about not meeting in person in 2 years prior to the requirements?If yes,she will in big trouble! They should meet in person again and provide an evidence of meeting and apply again! Maybe this is the best way they can do.

[rose143 0]

I got a 221g form and they did not asked more documents and i have a visa after 7 days of my interview. Its very confusing why they refused the petition? Is it all about not meeting in person in 2 years prior to the requirements?If yes,she will in big trouble! They should meet in person again and provide an evidence of meeting and apply again! Maybe this is the best way they can do.

really? but after the issuance of your 221g, did they returned passport?yes that was her waiver...221g of not meting in person for the past 2yers prior they filed...so what if her F will be here, then can they re-schedule her interview?

[Penguin_ie 5,986]

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USCIS may not have realised they didn't meet within the last two years. The "meeting in person in the last two years" requirement is pretty absolute, I only know two cases where it was waived. They will need to meet and start again- having met AFTER the petition was filed does not count.

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[rose143 0]

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USCIS may not have realised they didn't meet within the last two years. The "meeting in person in the last two years" requirement is pretty absolute, I only know two cases where it was waived. They will need to meet and start again- having met AFTER the petition was filed does not count.

thank you so much ....

[Tintin and Mike 127]

It's a must that petitioner and beneficiary have met in person within 2 years prior to filing the I-129F.

It appears USCIS have overlooked the application and the Consulate caught it. I'm just surprised that they didn't send it back to USCIS to re-review it and got an automatic denial.

Good luck!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Hi...i guess same thing happened to my friend or is that same person that we are referring now?..She was having an interviewed last Oct.11 under K1 and her visa was said refused and and the consul issued waiver to her saying " 221g for not meting in person for the past 2 yrs prior they filed the petition",the question was, Why the service center never issued RFE to them? and why the embassy did that?..she just confused and she ask an advise now. She just let me post it here on her behalf...any advise here ?thank you so much

The service center made a mistake,the consulate caught it and CORRECTED it.

Meeting in person BEFORE filing the I-129f is a REQUIREMENT of the K-1 visa. If someone at the service center makes a mistake it is STILL a REQUIREMENT. Any benefits gained without meeting the requirements will be denied and revoked at any time it is discovered. You do not "get away" with it.

It would have been caught at some point as each step reviews the entire process. Especially citizenship and especially if the citizenship is gained in just 3 years because you are married to a US citizen. That was by far the most scrutinized procedure in our process.

Your friend(s) need to MEET in person and file a new petition and start over. They thought they "got away with it" but the fact is they never would have and it is better that it is corrected now than after she is here, married and maybe they have children or establish a life, a career and then find herself in deportation hearings.

Such could also be considered FRAUD and incur a lifetime ban because they knowingly filed a petition when they were not eligible for AND would have accepted benefits. Believe me, they would find a way to make this "your fault". I mean, how did they answer question 18? I am going to surmise they did not say "We have not met in person" and even if they did they are required to provide evidence of that.

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO SKIP STEPS AND REQUIREMENTS!

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

It's a must that petitioner and beneficiary have met in person within 2 years prior to filing the I-129F.

It appears USCIS have overlooked the application and the Consulate caught it. I'm just surprised that they didn't send it back to USCIS to re-review it and got an automatic denial.

Good luck!

USCIS and the consulates are getting more mercenary about this. There is NO requirement that anyone be sent an RFE. That is a courtesy and nothing more.

The more petitioners whine and cry about their petitions for a lifetime commitment taking "too long" (a time frame they would gladly wait to rent a reception hall in most localities) the more the USCIS has to work to reduce being tied up on stupid errors. If the consulate sends it back it means that someone at USCIS has to review AGAIN an invalid petition that should never have been sent to begin with and legitimate petitioners already waited in line behind once.

USCIS has taken to simply issuing denials when there is "no clear petitionable benefit" In other words, if your petition is lacking TOO much, they just deny rather than send an RFE for multiple items.

I say "Good on them". Why should we all be waiting in line for people filing petitions that are not eligible, being so ignorant as to file only an I-129f and nothing else (read the instructions! That's why they have a form AND instructions!) It mens we are waiting in line behnd people that should not even be IN the line.

This is the direct result of petitioners demanding faster service.

[Pitaya 2,576]

USCIS and the consulates are getting more mercenary about this. There is NO requirement that anyone be sent an RFE. That is a courtesy and nothing more.

The more petitioners whine and cry about their petitions for a lifetime commitment taking "too long" (a time frame they would gladly wait to rent a reception hall in most localities) the more the USCIS has to work to reduce being tied up on stupid errors. If the consulate sends it back it means that someone at USCIS has to review AGAIN an invalid petition that should never have been sent to begin with and legitimate petitioners already waited in line behind once.

USCIS has taken to simply issuing denials when there is "no clear petitionable benefit" In other words, if your petition is lacking TOO much, they just deny rather than send an RFE for multiple items.

I say "Good on them". Why should we all be waiting in line for people filing petitions that are not eligible, being so ignorant as to file only an I-129f and nothing else (read the instructions! That's why they have a form AND instructions!) It mens we are waiting in line behnd people that should not even be IN the line.

This is the direct result of petitioners demanding faster service.

AMEN ! :thumbs:

[Tintin and Mike 127]

USCIS and the consulates are getting more mercenary about this. There is NO requirement that anyone be sent an RFE. That is a courtesy and nothing more.

The more petitioners whine and cry about their petitions for a lifetime commitment taking "too long" (a time frame they would gladly wait to rent a reception hall in most localities) the more the USCIS has to work to reduce being tied up on stupid errors. If the consulate sends it back it means that someone at USCIS has to review AGAIN an invalid petition that should never have been sent to begin with and legitimate petitioners already waited in line behind once.

USCIS has taken to simply issuing denials when there is "no clear petitionable benefit" In other words, if your petition is lacking TOO much, they just deny rather than send an RFE for multiple items.

I say "Good on them". Why should we all be waiting in line for people filing petitions that are not eligible, being so ignorant as to file only an I-129f and nothing else (read the instructions! That's why they have a form AND instructions!) It mens we are waiting in line behnd people that should not even be IN the line.

This is the direct result of petitioners demanding faster service.

Well said! :thumbs:

[dwheels76 5,462]

USCIS and the consulates are getting more mercenary about this. There is NO requirement that anyone be sent an RFE. That is a courtesy and nothing more.

The more petitioners whine and cry about their petitions for a lifetime commitment taking "too long" (a time frame they would gladly wait to rent a reception hall in most localities) the more the USCIS has to work to reduce being tied up on stupid errors. If the consulate sends it back it means that someone at USCIS has to review AGAIN an invalid petition that should never have been sent to begin with and legitimate petitioners already waited in line behind once.

USCIS has taken to simply issuing denials when there is "no clear petitionable benefit" In other words, if your petition is lacking TOO much, they just deny rather than send an RFE for multiple items.

I say "Good on them". Why should we all be waiting in line for people filing petitions that are not eligible, being so ignorant as to file only an I-129f and nothing else (read the instructions! That's why they have a form AND instructions!) It mens we are waiting in line behnd people that should not even be IN the line.

This is the direct result of petitioners demanding faster service.

Preach now. Amen

[Calicolom 265]

YES YES YES

[djricky4 67]

It's a must that petitioner and beneficiary have met in person within 2 years prior to filing the I-129F.

It appears USCIS have overlooked the application and the Consulate caught it. I'm just surprised that they didn't send it back to USCIS to re-review it and got an automatic denial.

Good luck!