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What are some major benefits that a citizen has that an LPR doesn't?

My wife and I plan to remain in the US for a long long time, maybe forever, but my country doesn't allow dual citizenship and I don't want to lose my citizenship.

I can do without voting, don't plan to work in the government, and none of my family members want to be petitioned for. But are there other major benefits that LPRs don't have?

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What are some major benefits that a citizen has that an LPR doesn't?

My wife and I plan to remain in the US for a long long time, maybe forever, but my country doesn't allow dual citizenship and I don't want to lose my citizenship.

I can do without voting, don't plan to work in the government, and none of my family members want to be petitioned for. But are there other major benefits that LPRs don't have?

The biggest and only, difference is that as a citizen you have the privilege of voting. Other than that you can remain a LPR to your dying day.

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A Co-owner of the company I work for is from Norway. He's opted for staying a LPR, and never went for citizenship. He's been living in the USA and married to a USC for nearly 30 years. Apparently, he likes keeping the citizenship from the country of his birth. I'm not sure what advantage that gives him there, could be just sentimental. But it hasn't stopped him from owning a home, raising a family or owning a business in the USA.

K1 from the Philippines
Arrival : 2011-09-08
Married : 2011-10-15
AOS
Date Card Received : 2012-07-13
EAD
Date Card Received : 2012-02-04

Sent ROC : 4-1-2014
Noa1 : 4-2-2014
Bio Complete : 4-18-2014
Approved : 6-24-2014

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Uganda
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If you come from a developing country: ease of travel to developed countries. A US passport gets you no-questions-asked access to a whole lot more of the world than a Ugandan one does. That, and being able to stay outside the US as long as you like without having to worry about jeopardizing your LPR status. Being able to travel and live together wherever we want is the biggest reason Aaron will be going all the way to naturalization once he gets here.

Joy (& Aaron, who doesn't read/post here yet)

Dec. 27, 2010: First met each other in Entebbe, Uganda while I was visiting my friend/his cousin (12/27/10 - 1/10/11) (visited again Jul. 2-9, 2011 and Dec. 24, 2011 - Jan. 9, 2012; engaged 1/7/12)

K-1

Feb. 18, 2012: I-129F sent (delivered 2/21 per USPS & USCIS; NOA1 notice date 2/23/12; check cashed/email/text 2/24)

Aug. 9, 2012: NOA2!!! [NOA1 +168 days] (reached NVC 8/17, left NVC 8/20; @embassy 8/24; embassy confirmed receipt 9/5)

Oct. 24 - Nov. 8, 2012: I visited again (Nairobi: medical 10/31; interview 11/5 [NOA1 +256 days]; result--APPROVED!!!!!!!)

Nov. 15, 2012: Visa in hand (was ready for retrieval 11/12/12)

Nov. 20, 2012: POE, Boston!!! (legal marriage 12/12/12; family/friends wedding ceremony 1/12/13) (276 days)

AOS/EAD/AP

Feb. 4, 2013: AOS packet sent (delivered 2/6, NOA1 text/email & check cashed 2/11 midnight)

Feb. 11, 2013: NOA1 notice date for I-485, EAD, AP (I-485/EAD NOA1 hard copies & biometrics appt letter arrived 2/16, badly mangled AP NOA1 arrived 2/27; biometrics done 3/4/13)

Apr. 3, 2013: EAD & AP approved (received card 4/11)

Aug. 16, 2013: I-485 approved & green card production ordered!!!! (card arrived 8/26/13) (193 days)

ROC

2015 sometime? I've slept since then.

Naturalization

Dec. 20, 2019: N-400 submitted online (Boston, MA field office)

Jan. 9, 2020: Biometrics

Feb. 4, 2020: updated wait time = 4 months (estimated case completion June 2020)

Aug. 7, 2020: interview scheduled (!), but no idea when

Sept. 16, 2020: interview, Boston (approved)

Sept. 24, 2020: oath ceremony, Boston---DONE!!! (279 days from submission)

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Honduras
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This is a good question, I always wonder if there is something I am missing in the difference between the two...

Anywho, I want my husband to go for it so we can spend extended amounts of time in Honduras and still freely return to the US.

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A US citizen is entitled to live in the US. The government can't take away this right.

An LPR is not entitled to live in the US. An LPR has permission from the US government to live in US. The US government can revoke this permission at any time and deport The LPR. iIr does not matter how long the LPR has been living in US. It could be for 30 or 40 years. Having a US citizen spouse, US citizen children, US businesses, or ties to the US is irrelevant. And LPR is a guest of the US, and can be forced to leave at anytime.

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Some disadvantages in remaining an LPR include tax implications with regard to out-of-country inheritances, etc.

I also have a vague recollection of things like the death of the USC spouse and social security benefits. (Sorry I can't be more specific. I'd saved all the data on my desktop and the motherboard just fried. <_< )

And if you ever move back home with US citizenship status then you will enjoy a lifetime of reporting to the IRS. :)

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A USC can live out of the US as long as they want. An LPR needs to always maintain residency in the US.

OUR TIMELINE

I am the USC, husband is adjusting from B2.

ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS

08.06.2010 - Sent off I-485
08.25.2010 - NOA hard copies received (x4), case status available online: 765, 131, 130.
10.15.2010 - RFE received: need 2 additional photos for AP.
10.18.2010 - RFE response sent certified mail
10.21.2010 - Service request placed for biometrics
10.25.2010 - RFE received per USCIS
10.26.2010 - Text/email received - AP approved!
10.28.2010 - Biometrics appointment received, dated 10/22 - set for 11/19 @ 3:00 PM
11.01.2010 - Successful biometrics walk-in @ 9:45 AM; EAD card sent for production text/email @ 2:47 PM! I-485 case status now available online.
11.04.2010 - Text/Email (2nd) - EAD card sent for production
11.08.2010 - Text/Email (3rd) - EAD approved
11.10.2010 - EAD received
12.11.2010 - Interview letter received - 01.13.11
01.13.2011 - Interview - no decision on the spot
01.24.2011 - Approved! Card production ordered!

REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS

11.02.2012 - Mailed I-751 packet to VSC
11.08.2012 - Checks cashed
11.10.2012 - NOA1 received, dated 11.06.2012
11.17.2012 - Biometrics letter received for 12.05.2012
11.23.2012 - Successful early biometrics walk-in

05.03.2013 - Approved! Card production ordered!

CITIZENSHIP

Filing in November 2013

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What about owning guns? Is that only a USC right?

Fernando & Michelle

12/05/2011 - Mailed I-129F
12/09/2011 - Received NOA1
12/21/2011 - Last updated by USCIS
04/12/2012 - Approved!
05/08/2012 - NVC received
05/09/2012 - Left NVC
05/14/2012 - Received at Consulate
06/25/2012 - Interview at Consulate, APPROVED!!!!
07/07/2012 - POE at JFK, easy.

09/28/2012 - Mailed I-485
11/09/2012 - Appointment for Biometrics
12/08/2012 - EAD and AP Card arrived in mail. No updates to USCIS website.
07/26/2013 - Approved, no interview.

04/30/2015 - Mailed I-751

06/03/2015 - Appointment for Biometrics

02/29/2016 - Approved, no interview.

03/14/2016 - Received 10-year Card

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Italy
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A US citizen is entitled to live in the US. The government can't take away this right.

An LPR is not entitled to live in the US. An LPR has permission from the US government to live in US. The US government can revoke this permission at any time and deport The LPR. iIr does not matter how long the LPR has been living in US. It could be for 30 or 40 years. Having a US citizen spouse, US citizen children, US businesses, or ties to the US is irrelevant. And LPR is a guest of the US, and can be forced to leave at anytime.

Uhm, I don't think that one day the US Gov't will wake up and decide to kick out LPRs just because. There must be some (serious) grounds. Then of course the law can change at any time, but I wouldn't want to live in a country that removes people from its territory for no reason. If that day ever came, I'd grab my stuff, leave and move on as a free man.

To the OP: bear in mind that once you become a US Citizen, you get married to the IRS for life, regardless of where you live.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Denmark
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What about owning guns? Is that only a USC right?

Nope.

Some agencies/work places require US citizenship. You can't vote, you have to renew greencard every 10th year.

I admit it sounds appealing however as someone else said, maybe it's the sentimental aspect that makes me not want to give up Danish citizenship. I'll look into it in about 10 years. Maybe they'll change the laws regarding dual citizenship by then. If not, I'll be just fine with staying LPR.

K1 process, October 2010 > POE, July 2011

I-129F approved in 180 days from NOA1 date. (195 days from filing to NOA2 in hand)

Interview took 224 days from I-129F NOA1 date. (241 days from filing petition until visa in hand)

From filing I-129F petition until POE: 285 days

Click timeline or "about me" for all details.

AOS process, December 2011 > July 2012

EAD/AP Approval took 51 days from NOA1 date to email update. (77 days from filing until EAD/AP in hand)

AOS Approval took 206 days from NOA1 date to email update. (231 days from filing until greencard in hand)

From filing I-129F petition until greencard in hand: 655 days

Click timeline or "about me" for all details.

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