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K1 visa sucks so bad . There is absolutely no reason you would do that over CR1 if both people live abroad . Its so much more work once you get to the USA and every relationship will take a hit when the other person has to sit at home do absolutely ****all and is getting bored and depressed.  Especially when you live in a first world country there is no rush.

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11 minutes ago, mustang85635 said:

K1 visa sucks so bad . There is absolutely no reason you would do that over CR1 if both people live abroad . Its so much more work once you get to the USA and every relationship will take a hit when the other person has to sit at home do absolutely f*** all and is getting bored and depressed.  Especially when you live in a first world country there is no rush.

That's why you talk/discuss it over as a couple before deciding which visa route to take. CR1 is not a one size fits all visa. We took the K1 route and would again, but that doesn't mean I think it's best for everyone.

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I agree that the CR1/IR1 visa is superior but what a lot of people are forgetting to mention is that the K1 processing times significantly increased while the CR1/IR1 pretty much stayed the same or only slightly increased. Looking at the processing times now I would never go the K1 route again because you have to wait a long time either way. When I did my K1 most people got their K1visa within 5 months, some even 4 months (the ones that were interviewing at consulates with low waiting times) while CR1 took around 1 year to 14 months. K1 used to be a lot faster route to be together with your partner. Now I would never recommend the K1 anymore because of all the negative points other people have mentioned on here already. There's no fast processing anymore to make up for it. 

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4 minutes ago, Umka36 said:

That's why you talk/discuss it over as a couple before deciding which visa route to take. CR1 is not a one size fits all visa. We took the K1 route and would again, but that doesn't mean I think it's best for everyone.

There is no reason to go K1 over CR1 in there circumstance . As noted both take the same nowadays and its far superior because you enter as an LPR . Price wise its superior and time wise its superior. 

It might be good for a couple thats still unsure about marriage and living together but this couple obviously does not. 

Also getting legally married in europe is a very fast process. I know in denmark its same day . Sweden probably same.

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8 minutes ago, Umka36 said:

That's why you talk/discuss it over as a couple before deciding which visa route to take. CR1 is not a one size fits all visa. We took the K1 route and would again, but that doesn't mean I think it's best for everyone.

Now if K1 visa would take a month or two then we would be talking but its so slow it takes roughly the same depending where in the world you apply. Frankfurt you can get it in 6 months . Know some people that got it in that tomeframe while another waited 8-10 for K-1 no RFE no anything. 

If you move to NY , Houston or LA you could be looking at another year once you enter on K-1 plus the AOS fees. And the wait. Omg just thinking about how useless I felt sitting at home and wasting my time doing nothing . It was horrible. 

 

Listen to some good advice OP and go CR-1 nuff said

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Just now, mustang85635 said:

There is no reason to go K1 over CR1 in there circumstance . As noted both take the same nowadays and its far superior because you enter as an LPR . Price wise its superior and time wise its superior. 

It might be good for a couple thats still unsure about marriage and living together but this couple obviously does not. 

Also getting legally married in europe is a very fast process. I know in denmark its same day . Sweden probably same.

I agree under the OP circumstance that the CR1 is the best route.

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1 minute ago, mustang85635 said:

Now if K1 visa would take a month or two then we would be talking but its so slow it takes roughly the same depending where in the world you apply. Frankfurt you can get it in 6 months . Know some people that got it in that tomeframe while another waited 8-10 for K-1 no RFE no anything. 

If you move to NY , Houston or LA you could be looking at another year once you enter on K-1 plus the AOS fees. And the wait. Omg just thinking about how useless I felt sitting at home and wasting my time doing nothing . It was horrible. 

 

Listen to some good advice OP and go CR-1 nuff said

Umm that's why you discuss the pros vs. con prior to deciding which visa route to take. Just because it works for some, does not mean it will work for all.

 

We didn't do the K1 because it was quicker as we actually delayed it by a few months so my wife could finish up her teaching job. While other may not understand, my wife and I didn't want to live our life separately once we were married. That was our main reason for the K1 option, and the whole being boredom/useless feeling was not an issue for my wife. She found things to do outside our home beyond work.

 

I don't have an agenda to push folks for the K1, but it has it's purpose and the OP has made the decision that's best for them which is the CR1.

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1 hour ago, Chris009 said:

Hey again, 
First off, WOW! Went to bed and to work and came back to some great answers. 

I feel like I need to clear things up a bit. I have been living in Sweden for over eight years now and have duel citizenship. My girlfriend and I have been together for three years and have often contemplated about marriage actually. It has taken a great deal of time to finally come to the decision to move back to Colorado and for many reasons, we just want to get the hell out of here. It's unfortunate that it seems we might have to skip the romance of getting married but if the state approves us easier than we are willing to just sign the paperwork. 

So after looking at some of the options, the CR-1 route seems to be the safest. What steps would make the most sense then? We both live in Sweden currently, so should we get "married" and then start filling for the CR-1?
(extra homework: Does it help if she legally changes her last name too? We would like to save it for the actual ceremony in the future.)

Certainly many more questions to come later, but that's what I got now. 
Thank you all so much!!!
Cheers

No, the name change means absolutely nothing for immigration, it seems to only create hassles with other documents anyway, so let her keep her name

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OP, i just want to add since nobody has mentioned it yet. since you are living overseas at the moment, you need to establish domicile in the US first or at least have a plan in place of how you intend to resettle in the US. this is part of the paperwork / requirement for both K1 and CR1. if you search here on VJ about establishing domicile you should get some good results.

Passport 17-Feb-22 Drop-off at USPS (expedited processing and shipping) ~ 22-Feb-22 Status: In Process ~ 08-Mar-22 Passport book shipped ~ 09-Mar-22 Status: Approved. Passport book in hand.

N-400     28-Jun-21 Filed online ~ 28-Jun-21 Received NOA + "Biometrics will be re-used" notice ~ 14-Dec-21 Interview scheduled ~ 25-Jan-22 Interview. Approved. Case status: Oath will be scheduled.  ~ 01-Feb-22 Oath scheduled. ~ 14-Feb-22 Oath ceremony.   

ROC        11-Jun-20 Application sent via FedEx ~ 16-Jun-20 Case received ~ 29-Jun-20 (Old) biometrics applied to case ~ 01-Jul-20 NOA ~ 23-Dec-21 Case transferred to new office ~ 25-Jan-22 Combo interview with N400. Case approved. 

AOS        13-Oct -17 Application sent via FedEx ~ 17-Oct-17 Case received ~ 24-Oct-17 Fingerprint fee received ~ 25-Oct-17 NOA1 ~ 17-Nov-17 Biometrics ~ 23-Nov-17 Status "We are scheduling
                 your 
interview" ~ 24-Jul-18 Status "We have scheduled your interview" ~ 28-Jul-18 Interview notice received in the mail  ~ 29-Aug-18 Interview 30-Aug-18 Status "Case was approved" 
                 
04-Sep-18 Received approval / welcome letter in the mail ~04-Sep-18 Status: "Card was mailed to me" ~07-Sep-18 Green card received

EAD/AP  13-Oct Application sent via FedEx ~ 17-Oct Case received ~ 25-Oct NOA1 ~ 17-Nov Biometrics ~ 09-Jan Approved ~ 13-Jan Notice received ~ 18-Jan Combo card received

K1 Visa   28-Jun-17 Case ready (No packet 3 received) ~ 22-Jul Medical ~ 02-Aug Interview (APPROVED!) ~ 03-Aug Visa issued ~ 08-Aug VOH ~ 14-Sep POE (Abu Dhabi) ~ 01-Oct-17 Got married! 

I-129F     17-Feb-17 Petition sent via FedEx ~ 21-Feb-17 Case received ~ 24-Feb-17 NOA1 ~ 30-May-17 NOA2 12-Jun-17 NVC received / Case and Invoice numbers assigned ~ 20-Jun-17 NVC left

 

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On 4/17/2018 at 7:01 PM, missileman said:

Only you and your fiance can decide which route is better for you.  This is my comparative analysis.

K-1: 8-10 months

    More expensive than CR-1

    Requires Adjustment of Status after marriage (expensive and requires a lot of paperwork)

    Spouse can not leave the US until she receives approved Advance Parole (approx 3-4 months)

    Spouse can not work until she receives EAD (approx 3-4 months)

    some people have had problems with driver licenses, Social Security cards, leases, bank account during this period .

    Spouse will not receive Green Card for many months after Adjustment of Status is filed.

CR-1: 12-14 months

    Less expensive than K-1

    No AOS required.

    Spouse can immediately travel outside the US

    Spouse can start work if desired

    Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card withing 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US

    Spouse  has legal permanent Resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US.

 

All-in-all, the CR-1 is superior to the K-1 imo.

Is there an issue with entering the US to marry and then leaving in order to apply for the CR1? 

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8 minutes ago, Merlofil said:

Is there an issue with entering the US to marry and then leaving in order to apply for the CR1? 

Perfectly fine.

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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9 hours ago, CatherineA said:

I believe that people in Sweden can do Direct Consular Filing in London with special circumstances (like a job transfer perhaps)? There was a thread about it a while ago, try to search "DCF Sweden"?

DCF under exceptional circumstances is available anywhere, although the success of doing it under the short notice of a job transfer criteria is low chance gamble IMO. Every case is unique, but generally that's for somebody who was assigned to a new position in the US from their existing job, and therefore needs to move under a short notice. Requesting to be transferred or finding  anew job wouldn't really fit this.

 

2 hours ago, Merlofil said:

Do you think that it would be hard to prove that my intentions are to go back home? I do not want to be turned away at the border. 

That depends on a lot of factors. Are you entering on a visa or ESTA (or visa-less like from Canada)? How many times have you visited in the past and for how long, and how long were you out of the US between trips? What are your ties to show that you will return home?

FYI I'm not looking for answers to be posted here...these are just considerations. In general, if you have a valid visa, have not violated status in the past, and haven't stayed in the US too much, you should be fine through POE. Being turned around is definitely a risk (as it always is), but few people are actually turned around.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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18 hours ago, mustang85635 said:

K1 visa sucks so bad . There is absolutely no reason you would do that over CR1 if both people live abroad . Its so much more work once you get to the USA and every relationship will take a hit when the other person has to sit at home do absolutely f*** all and is getting bored and depressed.  Especially when you live in a first world country there is no rush.

Not everyone has the same experience, though. For us, moving to the US was my husband's first time in the US, first time out of Central America. We were planning on a few months of down time to get adjusted/ take English classes etc. We also weren't living together abroad (I agree if both people live abroad and there's not a firm move-date, K1 makes little sense), so waiting the extra 4 or 5 months for K1 only to plan to spend another several months of doing time made zero sense in our situation. Everyone is different.  Also, you don't have to sit around doing nothing, there's always options. 

Marriage/ AOS Timeline:

23 Dec 2015: Legal marriage

23 Jan 2016: Wedding!

23 Jan 2016: "Blizzard of the Century", wedding canceled/rescheduled (thank goodness we were legally married first or we'd have had a big problem!) :sleepy:

24 Jan 2016: Small "civil ceremony" with friends and family who were snowed in with us. December was a bit of a secret and people had traveled internationally and knew we *had* to get married that weekend, and our December legal marriage was nothing but signing a piece of paper at our priest's kitchen table, without any sort of vows etc so this was actually a very special (if not legally significant) day. (L)

16 Apr 2016: Filed for AOS and EAD/AP (We delayed a bit-- no big rush, enjoying the USCIS break)

23 Apr 2016: Wedding! Finally! :luv:

27 Apr 2016: Electronic NOA1 for all 3 :dancing:
29 Apr 2016: NOA1 Hardcopy for all 3
29 Jul 2016: Online service request for late EAD (Day 104)
29 Jul 2016: EAD/AP Approved ~3 hours after online service request
04 Aug 2016: RFE for Green Card (requested medicals/ vaccination record. They already have it). :ranting:
05 Aug 2016: EAD/AP Combo Card arrived! (Day 111)
08 Aug 2016: Congressional constituent request to get guidance on the RFE. Hoping they see they have the form and approve!

K-1 Visa Timeline:

PLEASE NOTE. This timeline was during the period of time when TSC was working on I-129fs and had a huge backlog. The average processing time was 210+ days. This is in no way predictive of your own timeline if you filed during or after April 2015, unless CSC develops a backlog. A backlog is anything above the 5-month goal time listed on USCIS's site

14 Feb 2015: Mailed I-129f to Dallas Lockbox. (L) (Most expensive Valentine's card I've ever sent!)

17 Feb 2015: NOA1 "Received Date"
19 Feb 2015: NOA1 Notice Date
08 Aug 2015: NOA2 email! :luv: (173 days from NOA1)

17 Aug 2015: Sent to NVC

?? Aug 2015: Arrived at NVC

25 Aug 2015: NVC Case # Assigned

31 Aug 2015: Left NVC for Consulate in San Jose

09 Sep 2015: Consulate received :dancing: (32 days from NOA2)

11 Sep 2015: Packet 3 emailed from embassy to me, the petitioner (34 days from NOA2).

18 Sep 2015: Medicals complete

21 Sep 2015: Packet 3 complete, my boss puts a temporary moratorium on all time off due to work emergency :clock:

02 Oct 2015: Work emergency clears up, interview scheduled (soonest available was 5 business days away--Columbus Day was in there)

13 Oct 2015: Interview

13 Oct 2015: VISA APPROVED :thumbs: (236 days from NOA1)

19 Oct 2015: Visa-in-hand

24 Oct 2015: POE !

15 Dec 2015: Fiance's mother's B-2 visa interview: APPROVED! So happy she will be at the wedding! :thumbs:

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On 4/19/2018 at 5:39 AM, geowrian said:

DCF under exceptional circumstances is available anywhere, although the success of doing it under the short notice of a job transfer criteria is low chance gamble IMO. Every case is unique, but generally that's for somebody who was assigned to a new position in the US from their existing job, and therefore needs to move under a short notice. Requesting to be transferred or finding  anew job wouldn't really fit this.

How do you know that it's a "low-chance gamble"? It is certainly a possibility, see below: 

 

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