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Security Clearance as a GC holder?

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Stuart and Katie Enthusiast

Stuart and Katie   13

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Can anyone explain to me what, if any, level of security clearance a GC holder is eligible for please.

I keep reading differing opinions here on VJ without anyone giving a definitive answer and can't seem to find the answer online.

11/01/12 - I-129F sent
11/14/12 - NOA1 (email/text)
11/19/12 - NOA1 (paper)
05/17/13 - NOA2 (email/text)
05/22/13 - NOA2 (paper)
05/29/13 - Case forwarded to NVC
06/04/13 - Case forwarded to US Embassy, London
06/06/13 - Medical
06/12/13 - Packet 3 received
06/13/13 - Packet 3 sent
06/25/13 - Packet 4 received
07/19/13 - Interview
07/26/13 - Visa received
08/09/13 - POE (IAD)
08/31/13 - Wedding heart.gif
10/03/13 - I-485 & I-765 sent
10/10/13 - NOA1 (email/text)
10/15/13 - NOA1 (paper)
11/12/13 - I-485 & I-765 Biometrics

12/03/13 - EAD approval

12/10/13 - EAD received

02/22/14 - Green Card approval
03/01/14 - Green Card received

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I am going to assume it will vary, FBI may be different to your local Mall.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Generally none with very few exceptions, assuming you mean DoD or DoS. Even if you were able to get clearance, having had citizenship in another country will delay your getting said clearance and most employers don't wait that long.

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Companies looking for you to get a DoD security clearance will not hire you because you are not a citizen. It's a costly process and your risk of not getting approve is high as hell.

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CR-1 Process

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06/10/2011 - I-130 package sent USPS priority mail with delivery confirmation

06/14/2011 - NOA1

10/21/2011 - I-130 approved (NOA2)

11/19/2011 - NVC recevied case

11/21/2011 - Called NVC for AOS bill and DS-3032

11/21/2011 - Paid AOS Bill

11/21/2011 - EP request and DS-3032 to NVC

11/23/2011 - EP came and DS-3032 accepted

11/23/2011 - Submit I-864

11/28/2011 - Paid IV Bill

11/29/2011 - Submit DS-230

12/05/2011 - Case completed

12/08/2011 - Interview date set

12/11/2011 - Medical exam

01/11/2011 - Document intake day

01/12/2012 - Interview - Approved

03/09/2012 - POE - LAX

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Can anyone explain to me what, if any, level of security clearance a GC holder is eligible for please.

I keep reading differing opinions here on VJ without anyone giving a definitive answer and can't seem to find the answer online.

I think none, last time I looked at those. Fellow pole that went into Navy, had to renounce polish citizenship to get (I think) secret clearance.

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Tina and Johan   206

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I am going to assume it will vary, FBI may be different to your local Mall.

I hope this varies! My fiancé's line of work in Ireland was "security engineer," and he's already got a tentative job offer once he has his EAD card. I think more research is in order. Damn. ?

K1 Visa timeline:

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02/01/2014 - mailed our petition

07/25/2014 - Johan arrives in Los Angeles! 

*See updated timeline for specific dates.*

AOS timeline:~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

08/02/2014 - AOS, EAD, AP applications mailed. 

11/17/2014 - K2 gets an interview waiver letter in the mail (dated November 12th) (K1 has never gotten this letter)

08/24/2015 - Green cards are FINALLY in hand after nearly 13 months of waiting. 

ROC timeline: ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

05/01/2017 - ROC application sent 

05/02/2017 - CSC receives our package

05/03/2017 - Official NOA1 date

05/10/2017 - MO cashed at our bank

05/12/2017 - NOA 1 is in the mailbox.

05/20/2017 - Biometrics letter in hand

05/31/2017 - biometrics appt (Oxnard, CA)

06/19/2018 - ROC still pending with no news but that wonky glitch back in February, so we went ahead and filed for citizenship

N-400 timeline: ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

06/19/2018 - N-400 application filed online

06/20/2018 - NOA1 received online for Naturalization application

06/25/2018 - Biometrics notification online (PDF Document)

07/12/2018 - Biometrics appt (Oxnard, CA)

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As far as I encountered during past years of job searchings and re-searchings, needing a security clearance means that you have to be a U.S. citizen. There might be some exemptions with extreme expertise required (read below). Even having foreign relatives, especially from sensitive countries, could jeopardize the security clearance screening. And the screening including homeland security agents knocking on your references' doors to interview them, and it can take more than a year. I had several friends going through that. They are all U.S. citizens (also their references, I believe).

Non-US citizens can not obtain a security clearance; however, they may be granted a Limited Access Authorization (LAA). LAAs are granted in those rare circumstances where the non-US citizen possesses unique or unusual skill or expertise that is urgently needed to support a specific US Government contract involving access to specified classified information (no higher than Secret), and a cleared or clearable US citizen is not readily available.
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For low level there are extremely rare exceptions for world experts in the field and those exceptions will cost the petitioning company over 100k just to apply. For higher levels NONE. For commercial ones there are more exceptions but still rare and costly. Net security engineering don't need a government security clearance. But be careful when job hunting not to make a false claim of USC as that will really mess up your journey, Locking up someone network doesn't mean you have access to government sensitive data.

This will not be over quickly. You will not enjoy this.

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Stuart and Katie Enthusiast

Stuart and Katie   13

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The definitive answer is this:

As a non-US citizen, you cannot obtain a security clearance. However, you can obtain a public trust clearance.

Even after obtaining US citizenship, you will still be limited in the clearances you can obtain.

Basically, as I had figured out, if you're not a US citizen don't bother applying for any jobs that need a security clearance unless it is a public trust clearance.

11/01/12 - I-129F sent
11/14/12 - NOA1 (email/text)
11/19/12 - NOA1 (paper)
05/17/13 - NOA2 (email/text)
05/22/13 - NOA2 (paper)
05/29/13 - Case forwarded to NVC
06/04/13 - Case forwarded to US Embassy, London
06/06/13 - Medical
06/12/13 - Packet 3 received
06/13/13 - Packet 3 sent
06/25/13 - Packet 4 received
07/19/13 - Interview
07/26/13 - Visa received
08/09/13 - POE (IAD)
08/31/13 - Wedding heart.gif
10/03/13 - I-485 & I-765 sent
10/10/13 - NOA1 (email/text)
10/15/13 - NOA1 (paper)
11/12/13 - I-485 & I-765 Biometrics

12/03/13 - EAD approval

12/10/13 - EAD received

02/22/14 - Green Card approval
03/01/14 - Green Card received

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Less than a year since my naturalization I obtained a security clearance. No issues.

That is great. How long did the investigation take?

What level of Clearance did you get? Did you have to give up your Nationality first?

Did you ever live in a country else than yours and USA?

Sorry for the questions. But it seems to me that the clearance depends on all that and I would really much like to be proven wrong.

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