Nigel&Meggie

The civil surgeon does not have to give the shots. He can go to your doctor, the Redi-Cinic at Walgreens drug store, or the public health department. Many find the health department cheaper. So for example if he gets MMR and Td free in the UK and those go on his Knightsbridge record. Then he got varicella at the health department. He goes to a civil surgeon with all those records (his GP, Knightsbridge, and the health dept) and the CS "transcribes" them onto one official form. The only problem I see with some shots in the UK now, knowing he's still going to have to get more in the US--
Some of those are a series of shots like Dose 2 suggested four weeks later. If he could get complete by Knightsbridge (if he had chickenpox), then just the first shot of a series is okay with AOS. As long as he was up to date the day his DS3025 was signed, then USCIS won't make him get Dose 2/3. They don't make you wait out the interval to get all the doses as long as you were started with one dose at the medical exam. That's all he could medically get by that date. But I'm thinking by the time he gets to the US, the civil surgeon may say....hmmmm, it's been 8 weeks since your MMR Dose 1, so you're due another dose. He may not sign off until another dose is given since medically it's appropriate (now that time has passed) to continue the series. That would just be up to the civil surgeon. So he could end up with another shot and paying for it in the US, even if he got a free one in the UK. If the CS signs, then you don't need to comlete all the doses ever (unless you just want to). I hope thiis makes sense about the time interval and what the CS might say.
Beware of civil surgeons and call around and ask how much for just the immunization section. Many are not that well informed that K1 does not need a full exam. If they act clueless and insist you must have an exam, then hang up and call another. Find somebody who will do it for less than $50. Sometimes that becomes a huge hassle. Shame he can't get it done and dusted by the time of his UK exam. Are you sure your fiance didn't have chickenpox??? Everybody in the UK has had them.

ZERO vaccines are required to get a K1 visa. Knightsbridge doctors will suggest what you need, but it is not until you file for AOS that you need to meet the immunization requirements. However if your doctor will give them free on NHS, then it's good to have them done in the UK.
Here's what the AOS people will be looking for:


27 through 49 years: Td or Tdap (if DT, DTP or DTaP shown: okay to accept); MMR; Varicella
You only have to prove those shots, not go back and cover every childhood shot listed was given at some point in his life. Also, if your medical exam is during flu season (Oct 1-March 31) then a flu shot for all ages has been added and not just for over age 50.
Also note that D or d is diptheria, T is Tetanus, and P or p is Pertussis (whooping cough). It is not just a tetanus shot like you said in your first post. The regulations further say the DTP variations must be within the last 10 years, so a baby shot (if he could prove it) would still need updating. Also remember this is a USA list so your UK doctor is not the one to advise you on what you need. The UK has different standards and while your UK doctor may say you don't need something, it's the USA you have to please. I've read many posts that say some UK GPs won't give Pertussis again. My husband's GP gave him the DTP (baby version) with no problem because he asked and didn't charge him either. They do not have to do immigration shots for free on NHS, but many do.
Varicella is not routinely available in the UK, so he will get that once in the US before filing for AOS. Yes, adults can get varicella shots. (Knightsbridge does take your word for it if you say you had chickenpox.) He can get his other shots (MMR & Tdap) in the US too if he decides to wait. He will have to have a Civil Surgeon sign off on the immunization section of a medical form I-693. K1s can actually skip the civil surgeon form I-693 if they get every requirement recorded on their Knightsbridge immunization form DS-3025. But without chickenpox or the varicella shot, your fiance will definitely not have it complete in the UK and will have to do so in the US to include with the AOS application.

Hi Everyone!
I just went with David to our AOS interview this morning. We were told that everything is in order except for our missing medical records. We were advised to have another medical exam taken with a civil surgeon, when we were specifically told before that we didn't really need to do that all over again.
I don't want to do the medical exam all over again for several reasons:

It's not our fault that they "lost" my paperwork.
I just had a complete medical with our family doctor two weeks ago and I don't want to go through all that again. My insurance also wouldn't pay for it again. Had I known earlier that was a problem, I would have waited to have that medical done.
I don't want to go through all the immunizations that the Civil Surgeons make you do all over again, even that out-of-season flu vaccine that isn't really effective anyway and has side effects. They'd probably give me a TB skin test which we almost always test positive for and give us 6 months worth of medication even if your chest X-Ray is clear. Super inconvenient.
A complete medical exam from a Civil Surgeon is expensive, and I don't want to pay that again.
I already did it AND IT'S NOT MY FAULT THEY LOST IT, so why should I pay for it in money, stress and time. It was their responsibility/mistake and not mine. I wouldn't have been admitted here in the first place if I didn't have it. I didn't even see what was inside that yellow packet.

I've been going all over the internet (not just VJ), and I found out that there has been a lot of missing medical records. The biggest question is why only those papers were missing, of all the papers in the packet, and it has to be the one that costs us a lot of money?
I called up a border supervisor at my point of entry, and he investigated my case and if they still somehow still have my packet there. He called me back and told me that they "hand-deliver" all the packets every Monday or Tuesday, as they did mine Tuesday after my POE, to the local USCIS office where I had my interview. So, if it was there as early as January, why is it not in my folder anymore when all the others from the same packet was there? Super super fishy, especially because there are Civil Surgeons around the local USCIS office and even one on the next building, 50 feet away from their office.
I just called my congressman and will not stop calling anyone until this is resolved. I can afford the CS medical fee, but this is just so annoying and inconvenient, and it smells so much like an ongoing scam so I intend to fight it just for the principle of it.
Anyone there who has experienced the same thing can please respond to this thread and/or PM me their story and some more details, including receipt numbers, A-numbers and contact information. I am considering gathering enough evidence to submit to the ombudsman or to the media, whichever one gives us attention right away.
Yes, this is a call for action. It is time that we do something about this scam that has been going on for years. If the government will not do something about it, I'm sure some media outfit can make an investigative report about it.
Let's unite, fellow VJers!
:-)
Kezia

Are you trolling?
Your advice was nothing but a load of....

you make it sound like you were trying to buy a cat. Well, good luck and all.

Wow. If you give up this easily, it must not have been love after all. Just as well you move on.

This does not seem strange to me. When I came over on my K-1 I also purchased a return ticket with the returning flight only a couple of weeks out. It was by far the cheapest way to do it at that particular time (changing return dates can vastly affect the ticket price). Seemed logical to me, I never had any intention of using the return flight anyway, so it didn't matter when it was.

This does not seem strange to me. When I came over on my K-1 I also purchased a return ticket with the returning flight only a couple of weeks out. It was by far the cheapest way to do it at that particular time (changing return dates can vastly affect the ticket price). Seemed logical to me, I never had any intention of using the return flight anyway, so it didn't matter when it was.

So wait a minute... you havent really explained "disaster" but I'll tell you this mate, I'm flying 3,500 miles to marry my fiance (ironically on the 29th) and let me tell you, If she lost her job and changed her mind and told me to go home, I'd be mighty pissed. I've sold everything I own except the clothes and few bits I am traveling with and have given up my flat. I'd be broke, jobless, hurt and homeless and I don't have the two kids she has with her with me! Think on it. You've got 90 days to make it or break it. I don't really know the circumstances as you really didn't say but I wouldn't want to return home to nothing.
-Jock

You can get married in the US without a K-1. So it wasn't "before she was legally allowed to." She was legally allowed to marry. Regarding intent, intent is not eventual intent, but direct intent to immigrate on that very admission. For instance, a person with a K-1 pending can enter the US to visit, even though their intent is to come back later and be a immigrant. When they enter with the B-2 visa for their visit, they do not intent to immigrate on that trip.
As to whether the OP had intent, we cannot know. It seems to me that they didn't if they are asking how to go home and apply for a spousal visa.

I say use the AOS fee monies you've saved to buy him a ticket back to his country. <EOM>

Honestly, you allow him to work without authorization, you allow him to drive your car with no license, you're living apart even though you're married...what is it exactly that is drawing you to make one poor decision after another? I really don't get it.
Ontop of that, he's verbally abusive, he's cheated on you, and he's overly suspicious.
BTW...you may trust his driving, but if he would have hit someone, I dare to think of what could have happened to you insurance/liability wise.
I think it's bigger picture time here...you're moving away, he's with some buddies, you know he works without authorization, you don't currently want him back, but you'd like him to stay here. You keep this up, and you may be looking at marriage fraud. Of course, this is worst case scenario, but still the truth.
I really don't get what the draw is for you.
'Oh but I love him Jerry'

You thinking of that David Mitchell piece right now?

(My very first instinct was to cross out a row of the numbers for each credit card that I copied)
Who is judging who? you have already found USCIS guilty have you not?
IMHO it would have made sense to First contact your Bank/CC company before jumping to conclusions.

I still see no evidence of USCIS wrongdoing ?????????????????????? what do we have so far, she after knowing it was silly to do so, sent details in the mail, i do not think she has pursued this as aggressively with the CC company, but yet USCIS are guilty.

Seems that the OP is dragging out the drama a bit......

Your husband is being a dumbazz.

For the herb thing you should respond - "I'm British not French"

This is really important! I don't get too homesick (and there are many things I enjoy far more in the US!) but every now and then I feel like a mini-rant, even if just to remind myself that I am still British. Considering that 99% of the time I am full of nothing but praise for the US I don't feel like it's too much to ask.
It also bugs me when Alex or my housemates 'correct' me. 'I think we ought to have a herb garden' - 'you mean an 'erb garden?' Usually ends with me saying rather irritably, 'no I do not!' I already use a lot of American words where possible - sidewalk, elevator, truck, faucet, etc. - in order to be understood better, but I don't think any American is really going to misunderstand me if I pronounce the 'h' in herb! I know they're only teasing, but it's still irritating!

Maybe it's your Caps Lock button . . .

This is absolutely true. My husband misses his mom, his best friend and access to decent beer (that is relatively cheap). Other than that, he does NOT miss England one tiny bit. He was sick of England before he left, though, so...!

Dannynsami -
Correct - in the UK you TAKE the documents with you to the interview
The only thing you will send in are the forms themselves!
K.

Before applying, I had read that people were getting RFEs because they were not recognizing it as official. Here's what I sent and it was accepted with no RFE

A color copy so the red seal shows up.
Yellow highlighter over the sentence from "it is hereby certified that said decree...." and continuing to "...marriage was thereby dissolved."
Highlight DATED:xxxxxxxx
Yellow highlighter on the teeny, tiny print in the footer that says "Decree of Absolute (divorce)"

I would repond with a letter saying something like, I believe the request for evidence to be in error because divorce decrees in the United Kingdom are not signed by a judge, but rather stamped with the seal of the court. I am again submitting a copy of my [husband's/wife's] United Kingdom Decree Absolute which is stamped in red by the (name the court however it's written on the red seal). Then send a copy with the highlighting like I did to point it all out to them.

I'd recommend marrying in the Dominican Republic. Your mom will be able to get a visa to the DR much easier than his family will be able to get visas to visit the US. After you're married then come back to the US and file a spousal visa petition for him.
I'd also recommend waiting a little while before you get married. You only met face-to-face last month.

Oh yeah? Well, next time you're in rural Pennsylvania and need HP Sauce, HobNobs, and Jaffa Cakes, you'll be sorry!