Thomianguy

I cannot believe I started this thread in FIVE years ago and it is STILL going!!!!!

Wow! I had NO idea this question would lead to 750 responses and counting. My wife has since long gone and come back, now getting her citizenship in 4 days. 

44 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

I'm confused - you're surprised that they want a copy of the arrest record?

Yes, I am, but I see that SusieQQQ included a some information that shows I made a HUGE oversight. I saw that portion on the documents, but I completely missed the part where they ALSO wanted the arrest report. I think my mind went ahead of me thinking they want you to be honest and ADMIT that you were arrested (hence the question), but PROVIDE proof of the outcome. It only seemed logical to me, but I now see I completely gaffed on that.

Forgive me for this status. I see my mind just got ahead of me and I find it rather curious they never sent back a request for MORE information, rather than wait for the interview to do this.

2 hours ago, Fahad86 said:

well i know the case was dismissed but how long ago did this happen? if its in the statutory period the officer has discretion to approve or deny the application. Most of the time if the case was dismissed the interviewing officer need police report for the incident. I hope its a approval for your wife.

Thank you. 

This was in early 2016. 

2 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

Could not make a determination means they need to investigate it further - that’s all. He felt he needed more information. People get this even without any arrests etc, sometimes just so a supervisor can look over the case. It just sounds like he needs to check a box or two before he can officially approve the case.

 

By the way, being upper class and college educated does not prevent people from instigating domestic violence. (I have to say I found that sentence in your post quite strange.) I hope both that your wife gets her citizenship and that you manage to repair the relationship with your daughter, especially if she has a mental illness that needs to be treated. Good luck.

I added that part NOT to say that educated, middle and upper class cannot be violent (I know better), but to point out that she has never seen the inside of a jail and her family's status in her country would see her being in a foreign jail as unthinkable. Of course, for me, it was highly embarrassing as it was for her family to have found out as I felt embarrassed to know she had to endure such humiliation because of my daughter.  

Thank you for your well wishes and my daughter has spiraled even more out of control, but she is on her own but wrecking lives all over the place. It's been a massive undertaking reigning her in and it hurts, but in relation to this status, the officer knows none of this to make good judgment and just sees and arrest. AS my wife pointed out, if the case was dismissed, how and when can she prove to an immigration officer what a judge ruled on other than through a piece of paper that provides no detail to the nature of what really happened? The interesting thing is, now that I think of it, we not only submitted the disposition; we also submitted a letter of explanation  to do just that so that they would have some context. Apparently, that may not have been enough or maybe in the long run, it may.

I forgot to mention that this situation happened way back in early 2016. It was not recent. Since then, we have had a baby, a rather blissful marriage, been to Guyana 2 times and the Virgin Islands (where I am from), 4 times, moved to a house in Florida and building a business together. Very productive marriage life. 

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

It is what I would expect, they need to dot i's and cross t's.

Hmm...

On their application it asks if you were arrested to which the answer was "yes." Then, if I recall, they just asked for documentation showing the outcome, NOT documentation about the arrest itself because the disposition states the reason. He did not even ask because he doubted her, he asked because he implied, he wanted to make sure she was not lying which is weird because people would be more inclined to lie about NOT being arrested.

Hi guys, my wife just came back from her Citizenship hearing and after all the smooth sailing we have had from visa process to now, we finally hit a "determination" wall. 

My wife was arrested a few years back because my daughter (her estranged step-daughter) called the cops on her and fabricated a domestic violence case against her. The fight was actually between my daughters and my wife was breaking them up. That one daughter (she has progressive mental illness) went to the precinct and said my wife scratched her and the next thing you know, cops were at the door arresting my wife who spent a night in jail. This is a woman from a upper class family in her country, highly college educated, never seen a jail before so you must know the embarrassment I feel.

Anyway, the case was never prosecuted and it was thrown out AND sealed and we got a disposition stating such, which my wife has used to travel in and out of the U.S 6 times already. We also submitted the ORIGINAL of that disposition with the paperwork, admitting to the arrest by showing proof of the outcome.

Well today, we must have gotten a special officer because he sees the admission of arrest AND the disposition, but he wanted more - he wanted the actual arrest report, partially denied her ("could not make a determination at the moment") and sent her home, telling her to wait for documentation from him on how to submit that.

The arrest happened in New York and we moved to Florida 3 months ago and now it has been HELL trying to get in touch with a competent person in New York to help with this. In fact, all we are getting are voicemails, dead ends and transfers to dead ends. Lawyers are charing $1,500 for the attempt to get it when I've done multiple paperwork for individuals and can do it in my sleep for me to need a lawyer.

The bright side is, he actually signed off on everything telling because she passed everything else with ease, but he cannot yet set a swear in date because he wants THAT arrest record.

Thoughts/advice?  

 

It is saving all the multiple choice answers and typed info, but every time I go back to the attachments, they all disappear. Got to the end, went back to review, all the photo attachments just disappeared. Is this a bug? Is this some known issue?

Using Google Chrome.

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Take your wife to work day.  

 

Lol...yes!

13 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Then head to your local office with the expired GC, the expiring extension letter and her passport and her passport to get an I551 stamp.  You may want to call the number first.

 

If you need help with document services (such as passport stamps and advance parole) or have an emergency, call the USCIS Contact Center at 800-375-5283.  
 

https://www.uscis.gov/about-us/find-uscis-office/field-offices/new-york-new-york-field-office

 

Good Luck!

Thank you, so much. Ironically, I work in that building, at least it is one of the places I go to do work in my IT line of work. Will surely visit tomorrow to get the scoop on what we need. 

7 hours ago, carmel34 said:

No reason to wait to file the citizenship application if she is eligible.  I would recommend that you start that process as soon as possible unless you have a reason to wait until 2020.

There is a reason, but might have to work around it to do so.

14 minutes ago, milimelo said:

But is her extension letter expiring as well? They should be sending out letters good for 18 months. 

 

If yes, get an info pass to get I-551 stamp in her passport- you have to call for this. 

Yes, that is what is expiring, Mili. 

My wife received an extension letter mid 2018 and with THREE days left to go, no 10-year card as yet. In fact, her case was transferred to some other office (from Vermont to California or Texas). 

What does this mean for her, at the moment? Of course, if it expires, she has NO proof to prove she is legal n the country, correct?  

NOTE: She is now eligible for application for citizenship, but we were waiting until January of 2020 to do that.

NOTE: I am going to call them tomorrow (Saturday to see if there is any update because the website shows none)

Sinc eI started the original thread and there has been ALL these reponses since, let me let everyone know that my wife traveled with the letter TWICE and had no issues.

5 minutes ago, theanswerisdance said:

She’s fine to travel with combo of the letter and expired GC (letter alone isn’t sufficient). It must be the originally, watermarked letter — photocopies or images on a phone will not be accepted.

Ok, thank you. We have both. 

I did not read through this entire thread, but my wife and I are traveling to her home country of Guyana in a little under 2 months. She too received that extension letter,  believe last August or September. She recently received another letter telling her that her paperwork was transferred from VT to TX. Based on the couple of posts I perused, it appears she is ok to travel to and back with no issues as long as she has that letter?

I see some folks saying you can take a photo of it with a phone and that is accepted also?

Just about an hour ago, before she went to sleep, she was worried about this which prompted me to come to VJ to make sure the coast is clear with just that letter.

EDIT TO ADD: I just went back to the first page to look at the posted link only to find it has been removed and that the post was from TWO years ago just as we ended Bizarro World. So, are the same rules still in place? Any changes? Any worries?

18 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I understand... You know the old saying right? Opinions are like butts, everyone has one. 

 

My only issue with some people is that they want to have someone to blame when they did not fill out the proper paperwork or add in the required documentation. I saw this the other day on a FB site dedicated to CR1 visas. They guy was complaining about how it's the President's fault his wife got a 221G because his wife didn't have a tax transcript as part of her interview, when it says to have that. 
 

But seriously if I were you I would file for the ROC and then the N400 later. Once your wife has her citizenship then you won't have to go through this mess again. 

 

 

 Well, I have filled out immigration paperwork quite a few times so I know it is not an issue of mistakes on the paper work. My only problem is because trump seems to be ordering resources to do other things in immigration, it seems to be affecting the time lines of people actually waiting for their paperwork to go through.  I could be wrong, but it seems to be the case

1 hour ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

 

The vast majority of the political commentary or banter is over in the Common Events and Hot Social Topics(CEHST) area of the forum which is primarily opinion based. Then usually it is only ever brought up in a topic is if someone brings it up like what @Thomianguy did. 

 

Also @USC4SPOUSE I think you doing a broad brushing of people just off of their political beliefs is pretty messed up to say the least. 

Yeah, I suck, I brought him up. Shouldn't have. Loathe that dude.

13 hours ago, USC4SPOUSE said:

He is just embarrassing and so are his followers. 

Yes, I know. I live in his home city and have seen and noticed his antics since the early 80s.

45 minutes ago, accumbyte said:

With that date you can file starting this Thursday the 14th, if you want. Input 05/15/2019 on the early filing calculator: https://www.uscis.gov/forms/uscis-early-filing-calculator

Nice!

5 hours ago, USC4SPOUSE said:

Just a heads up... Bozo Trump has a large following here. You wouldn't think so given the nature of this site. 🤣

Use to be on the site a lot over 3 years ago. Just came back after all that time. Was not aware of the political climate, but yes, that is surprising considering his seeming displeasure with immigrants, notably from certain places and that it appears his policies have slowed the process for many of us.

5 hours ago, accumbyte said:

Which day in May 2016 did she enter the US? She also is eligible to apply for citizenship in the 90 days before the 3 year anniversary of US entry: https://www.uscis.gov/forms/uscis-early-filing-calculator She might already be eligible.

I believe it was May 15th, 2016, Acumbyte.

33 minutes ago, little immigrant said:

If you filed I-751 you're removing the conditions 

 

Temporary visa? You mean conditional green card? 

 

Yes even with ROC pending you can already apply for citizenship once eligible. 

 

Immigration isn't cheap for sure

Yes, we filed that (I-751)

Yes, that Green Card. I cannot keep up with what is what.

Yup, I get that now.

And yes, it sure isn't.