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Just seen this in the new today. 

 

One to watch for sure

 

https://www.moreno.senate.gov/press-releases/new-moreno-bill-to-outlaw-dual-citizenship/

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So is this based off of congressmen/senators having dual citizenship in which case, make it so whoever wants to run for public service needs to relinquish any other citizenship(s) X years before being eligible to run for an office. Or is this based off of Americans leaving US and living overseas (retirees, expats, students, and similar) - still paying taxes even when not in the country, or is there a third reason? 

 

Germany used to have something like this but even they made exceptions to loss of citizenship when their folks would naturalize for example in the US. 

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We just spent a lot of time obtaining my wife's dual citizenship.  Mostly so if we follow thru with our plan to move to the Philippines, it allowes her to own land and sponsor my visa

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14 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

We just spent a lot of time obtaining my wife's dual citizenship.  Mostly so if we follow thru with our plan to move to the Philippines, it allowes her to own land and sponsor my visa

so then you'll be a kept man...........

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This will never pass because of this ⬇️.  Relinquishing US citizenship is a real pain particularly around taxes, and Congress does not want to make it easier thereby losing that tax source.

 

EFFECT OF ACQUISITION OF FOREIGN CITIZEN6 SHIP.—A citizen of the United States who, after the date 7 of the enactment of this Act, voluntarily acquires foreign 8 citizenship shall be deemed to have relinquished United 9 States citizenship.

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2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

This will never pass because of this ⬇️.  Relinquishing US citizenship is a real pain particularly around taxes, and Congress does not want to make it easier thereby losing that tax source.

 

EFFECT OF ACQUISITION OF FOREIGN CITIZEN6 SHIP.—A citizen of the United States who, after the date 7 of the enactment of this Act, voluntarily acquires foreign 8 citizenship shall be deemed to have relinquished United 9 States citizenship.

I pray you are correct. 

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Agree with Dashinka. They won't do it because it will impact income tax generation.  The rest of the details will also impact it but bottom line, dualies living abroad or even dualies living in the US that may decide to reside or retire elsewhere would laugh at not having to file US income tax and/or pay taxes.  Not everyone has aspirations to be Moreno or Cruz.  

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3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

This will never pass because of this ⬇️.  Relinquishing US citizenship is a real pain particularly around taxes, and Congress does not want to make it easier thereby losing that tax source.

 

EFFECT OF ACQUISITION OF FOREIGN CITIZEN6 SHIP.—A citizen of the United States who, after the date 7 of the enactment of this Act, voluntarily acquires foreign 8 citizenship shall be deemed to have relinquished United 9 States citizenship.

Does this act "grandfather in" current dual citizens?  If given an "either/or" ultimatum, my wife would likely choose her home country since most of her current income comes from her teachers' retirement pension which I'm sure she would lose if she gave up her home country citizenship......and we pay full taxes to the US on that Taiwan income. ...there is no foreign income exclusion for us. 

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18 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

I pray you are correct. 

What I do not understand is why this is necessary other than for political grandstanding.  Also, reading the few pages of it tells me there was not much thought put into it.

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2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Does this act "grandfather in" current dual citizens?  If given an "either/or" ultimatum, my wife would likely choose her home country since most of her current income comes from her teachers' retirement pension which I'm sure she would lose if she gave up her home country citizenship......and we pay full taxes to the US on that Taiwan income. ...there is no foreign income exclusion for us. 

Not as it is written today.

 

DUAL CITIZENS.— (1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act, a citizen of the United States who also possesses foreign citizen ship shall—  (A) submit to the Secretary of State a written renunciation of such foreign citizenship; or (B) submit to the Secretary of Homeland Security a written renunciation of United States citizenship.

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Just now, Dashinka said:

Not as it is written today.

 

DUAL CITIZENS.— 11 (1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 1 year after the date of the enactment of this Act, a citizen of the United States who also possesses foreign citizen ship shall—  (A) submit to the Secretary of State a written renunciation of such foreign citizenship; or (B) submit to the Secretary of Homeland Security a written renunciation of United States citizenship.

I don't like it.  I don't like it at all!!!!!

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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So right now it was read twice and referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee.  No co-sponsors so far.

 

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/3283/committees

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2 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

I don't like it.  I don't like it at all!!!!!

I agree, it is a joke, but as I said earlier, look at the ramifications.  I retire and move overseas, take my money with me, and stop paying US taxes with the plan of obtaining a new citizenship where this bill would make renunciation simple.  Congress, and the DC deep state do not like simple.

 

 

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i don't like this either

but does this proposed bill effect US citizens "born here" that may want to retire elsewhere?

does it effect our SS benefits or RR retirement or any other US retirements?

and if my Adil moved back home with his Moroccan citizenship,  would he have to give up US and maybe loose his hard worked for SSA

 

We have been thinking to make the move and i can live as wife of a Morocan without getting citizenship there

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44 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

i don't like this either

but does this proposed bill effect US citizens "born here" that may want to retire elsewhere?

does it effect our SS benefits or RR retirement or any other US retirements?

and if my Adil moved back home with his Moroccan citizenship,  would he have to give up US and maybe loose his hard worked for SSA

 

We have been thinking to make the move and i can live as wife of a Morocan without getting citizenship there

i suspect usc's will be able to retire and live in another country and will be able to draw on SS/other retirement benefits - but they will still need to file us income taxes every year.

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