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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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If you are talking about marriages such as a Utah online marriage, they are valid for USCIS purposes once the couple has met (either during or after the marriage ceremony).  USCIS will not validate a marriage until this "consummation" has been established.  Once this requirement has been met, an I-130 can be submitted by the US petitioner.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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6 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

If you are talking about marriages such as a Utah online marriage, they are valid for USCIS purposes once the couple has met (either during or after the marriage ceremony).  USCIS will not validate a marriage until this "consummation" has been established.  Once this requirement has been met, an I-130 can be submitted by the US petitioner.

Thank You!

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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2 hours ago, AneliaO said:

Thank You!

One more thing.  Once the couple has met, USCIS will consider the marriage having taken place on the original date of the ceremony.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Other Country: China
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1 hour ago, Crazy Cat said:

One more thing.  Once the couple has met, USCIS will consider the marriage having taken place on the original date of the ceremony.

Yes, and the location of the marriage will be the location indicated on the marriage Certificate.  It's actually the location of the officiant, usually a judge.  Although Utah County is the entity dealt with, sometimes the judge is in another county.

 

To reiterate, the petition cannot be filed unless there is evidence of consummation included.  Unless the couple is physically together during the ceremony, they must have evidence of being together in the same country between the marriage date and petition filing date.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Morocco
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20 hours ago, AneliaO said:

Are online marriages valid or even worth it?

Yes they are, but that is a big red flag,  coming from Morocco,  is a high fraud country

 

You need to spend lots of time together,   pics of you and your other, parents, friends, family, events, etc. a few trips would help your case.

 

But then you have to consumate the marriage before filing your petitions with USCIS.

Best wishes.

 

Originally Paris Heart, from years ago.

 

 

Formally Beth & Achraf,    Lost my sign in details.

Been here a Veryyyyy Long time. 

 

 

MY HUSBAND'S :   N-400  APPLIED FOR CITIZENSHIP:    Interview will be Houston Tx office.

Mailed:  11/13/2023

Delivered to USCIS Lock Box:  11/15/2023

Credit Card payment processed:  11-16-2023

Received Receipt #   via Text:  11-17-2023

I-797C Receipt received:  11-27-2023

Biometrics  will be reused per letter: 11-27-2023

 

04/09/2024:     INTERVIEW SCHEDULED :  HOUSTON OFFICE: MAY 14 2024   ♥

05/14/2024:     N-400 Interview   APPROVED  

June 5th, 2024:   OATH DAY:       

 

June 5th 2024:  My husband became a US Citizen ♥♥   1, 474 New US Citizens sworn in- Houston, Tx. 

The End of a Very long journey! 

looney tunes i might have miss a th in there GIF

 

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Sent: 9/12/16: I-130 + I-485 + I-765 (USPS)

Delivered: Sept. 15th 2016 to Chicago Lock Box

Interview Feb  21st, 2018 for I-485

Interview  May 13th, 2019 for I-130 Stokes interview ( 5 minutes)

NOID issued May 17th 2019

June 5th,2019   USCIS received my response per NOID,   Addressed the NOID myself, No lawyer ever used in case.

July 1st, 2019  10 YEAR GREEN CARD APPROVED

July 5th, 2019   Approval letters for I-130 & I-485 received in the USPS  mail.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Morocco
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the CR 1 can also be denied (our 1st one was and we had to appeal and reapply)

You need to actually know what CO saw on computer and why denied the K1

Casa will not say age difference as that is age discrimination / the CO will come up with something he says to deny 

 

For us the CO said "i did not know what books wife read"

and we had a long discussion of this in text messages with her trying to tell me and me saying "i never heard of Shakespeare and Mark Twain"

so, i did see but didn't know these books

 

You need to talk to the bene and find out what was asked and bene's impressions of the "turn around " when the passport was returned 

you also need to formally withdraw the K1 -letter to USCIS office will do that -case $, both names and both DOB's/  you can send this letter in with the new I 130 for spouse visa


If you have to go to consummate the marriage from Utah zoom,  why not marry there?  Make sure Casa accepts (immigration does but how do the consummate the marriage?)

Reason is 

Morocco does not accept it as legal meaning u can not stay in same room with him-not even to eat or a motel ,or person who rents an apartment as they are required  to see marriage certificate

 

A Utah Zoom marriage, legally performed via Utah's online marriage laws, is generally not recognized as valid in Morocco. While Utah recognizes online marriages, Morocco typically requires marriages to be performed in person or according to local religious and legal customs

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8 hours ago, AneliaO said:

My fiancé and I have ways of being able to consummate in Morocco. That is not a concern. ;)   I do not have enough leave days from work to spend 3 weeks in Morocco or we would have been married in Casablanca a long time ago.

Lack of time off isn't a concern of USCIS/DOS.  Actual time spent together in person is important for high fraud consulates.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Morocco
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On 8/5/2025 at 1:46 PM, AneliaO said:

Are online marriages valid or even worth it?

In short, NO.

Originally Paris Heart, from years ago.

 

 

Formally Beth & Achraf,    Lost my sign in details.

Been here a Veryyyyy Long time. 

 

 

MY HUSBAND'S :   N-400  APPLIED FOR CITIZENSHIP:    Interview will be Houston Tx office.

Mailed:  11/13/2023

Delivered to USCIS Lock Box:  11/15/2023

Credit Card payment processed:  11-16-2023

Received Receipt #   via Text:  11-17-2023

I-797C Receipt received:  11-27-2023

Biometrics  will be reused per letter: 11-27-2023

 

04/09/2024:     INTERVIEW SCHEDULED :  HOUSTON OFFICE: MAY 14 2024   ♥

05/14/2024:     N-400 Interview   APPROVED  

June 5th, 2024:   OATH DAY:       

 

June 5th 2024:  My husband became a US Citizen ♥♥   1, 474 New US Citizens sworn in- Houston, Tx. 

The End of a Very long journey! 

looney tunes i might have miss a th in there GIF

 

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A.O.S.  FROM EXPIRED VISITORS VISA:

 

Sent: 9/12/16: I-130 + I-485 + I-765 (USPS)

Delivered: Sept. 15th 2016 to Chicago Lock Box

Interview Feb  21st, 2018 for I-485

Interview  May 13th, 2019 for I-130 Stokes interview ( 5 minutes)

NOID issued May 17th 2019

June 5th,2019   USCIS received my response per NOID,   Addressed the NOID myself, No lawyer ever used in case.

July 1st, 2019  10 YEAR GREEN CARD APPROVED

July 5th, 2019   Approval letters for I-130 & I-485 received in the USPS  mail.

July 11th 2019   Green Card in Hand

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Chile
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1 hour ago, Bethie said:

In short, NO.


Um, that’s not at all what anyone said.

 

They said that your application will likely have additional issues beyond just whether it was virtual or not, and you need to consider the specifics of Morocco when making your decision.

 

If the specifics of Morocco make it to inconvenient to you, you’ll need to consider other options, but to be clear, the other issues of there being a large age difference in a high fraud country will remain and will continue to be the largest issue.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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2 hours ago, Bethie said:

In short, NO.

Online marriages are absolutely worth it for many situations.  The consulate in Morocco will absolutely honor a Utah online marriage if the couple meet either during or after the ceremony.  Spending quality time together is required for any consulate.  I agree that is always more scrutiny in certain countries.

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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We got married online through Utah’s virtual marriage process — it was quick, simple, and completely valid. It’s especially worthwhile in places like the Dominican Republic, where same-sex marriage isn’t legal. To prove consummation, we submitted a hotel bill from our honeymoon and pictures...

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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9 minutes ago, Reynal2m said:

We got married online through Utah’s virtual marriage process — it was quick, simple, and completely valid. It’s especially worthwhile in places like the Dominican Republic, where same-sex marriage isn’t legal. To prove consummation, we submitted a hotel bill from our honeymoon and pictures...

Perfect! Thank you for sharing your experience

 
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