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The applicant does not want to fly to the States, will they give the child a Green Card?

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I'm 20 years old. I am from the Russian Federation. Secondary education-incomplete (9 grades) Work is not in demand (warehouse), that is, I do not fit the requirements as an applicant

I plan to “submit” an application for dv2025 through my mother, she is fully suitable for the requirements and even more (the work is in demand, long experience, and so on), she will indicate me as a child with a “body kit” with her.
However, she categorically does not want to move to the USA, she has deeply taken root here in the Russian Federation. But she agrees to fill out an application on her own behalf, enclosing all the necessary documents.

If it comes to winning, then to the interview, will this not serve as an obstacle to getting a green card for me? Does she need to get a green card to get it for me? Does the interview take place symmetrically or sequentially? Is it worth telling everything to the consul directly - the applicant does not want to go to the USA and does it all just so that I can get there? or lie a little? Has anyone had such cases?🙂

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Assuming she wins you will no longer be a dependent.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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4 minutes ago, Simon3430 said:

I thought the age of the child when submitting the application is frozen for the time of processing. Or I misunderstood you...

CSPA applies otherwise no.

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1 hour ago, Simon3430 said:

I'm 20 years old. I am from the Russian Federation. Secondary education-incomplete (9 grades) Work is not in demand (warehouse), that is, I do not fit the requirements as an applicant

I plan to “submit” an application for dv2025 through my mother, she is fully suitable for the requirements and even more (the work is in demand, long experience, and so on), she will indicate me as a child with a “body kit” with her.
However, she categorically does not want to move to the USA, she has deeply taken root here in the Russian Federation. But she agrees to fill out an application on her own behalf, enclosing all the necessary documents.

If it comes to winning, then to the interview, will this not serve as an obstacle to getting a green card for me? Does she need to get a green card to get it for me? Does the interview take place symmetrically or sequentially? Is it worth telling everything to the consul directly - the applicant does not want to go to the USA and does it all just so that I can get there? or lie a little? Has anyone had such cases?🙂

 Nope.   If the principal applicant does not want to go, the idea of immigration ends there.

 

The timing will not work.

 

Winning the DV is very, very unlikely anyway.

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14 hours ago, Simon3430 said:

 or lie a little? 

 

Nobody here is going to agree with a suggestion to commit immigration fraud.

 

Your plan isn't feasible for various reasons anyway. If you really want to move to the US then it would be far better if you put your efforts in to gaining further education and skills, and becoming eligible for a visa yourself. 

 

Good luck.

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13 hours ago, Simon3430 said:

I thought the age of the child when submitting the application is frozen for the time of processing. Or I misunderstood you...

But if you are aleady 20, you will be 21 before DV 2025 even begins (i.e., October 1, 2024), so you would no longer qualify for a derivative visa.

 

That doesn't matter, however, since you cannot receive a derivative visa if there is no principal applicant (your mother) from whom you derive your status.  The Principal Applicant must enter before or at the same time as any derivative.  Simply put -- mother doesn't immigrate, it's imposdible for son to go along with her or follow after her.

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