[Master Thread] Environmentalism, Climate Change, etc.

[TBoneTX 43,253]

PANIC:  USA Today Notes Greenland Is Turning Green -- Again

 

USA Today wants you to panic.  Greenland -- named because it was, at one time, green -- is turning green again.

 

First, let's just address something USA Today mentions in their own tweet: it was green in medieval times.

You know what wasn't around in medieval times?  The combustion engine.  SUVs.  Tide pods.  Gas stoves.  And a slew of other things environmentalists want to ban to 'save the planet.'  [...]

 

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/02/14/panic-usa-today-notes-greenland-is-turning-green-n2392928

[TBoneTX 43,253]

Interesting, and sounds reasonable.  Comments?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hurricane Ranking Hype
 

Recently, with much media fanfare, some scientists proposed adding a new, upper category to the hurricane rating scale, Category 6, to reinforce the dangers posed by climate change, which they believe is making hurricanes more powerful.  [...]

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/02/hurricane_ranking_hype.html

[Dashinka 23,306]

On 2/16/2024 at 2:23 AM, TBoneTX said:

Interesting, and sounds reasonable.  Comments?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hurricane Ranking Hype
 

Recently, with much media fanfare, some scientists proposed adding a new, upper category to the hurricane rating scale, Category 6, to reinforce the dangers posed by climate change, which they believe is making hurricanes more powerful.  [...]

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/02/hurricane_ranking_hype.html

All this caterwauling about weather events is so disingenuous. 

[TBoneTX 43,253]

4 hours ago, Dashinka said:

All this caterwauling about weather events is so disingenuous. 

As with all else, it's not the topic itself, but Control of us -- the peons and deplorables.

[Dashinka 23,306]

Gotta love government rules made by people that have no clue.

 

The farmers’ revolt comes to Wales

 

It is clear that the ministers in Cardiff Bay are unaware of the realities of farming. Welsh rural-affairs minister Lesley Griffiths squirmed last week under questioning from the Farmers Guardian newspaper. It had not seemed to occur to her that farmers will be forced to make their businesses less productive in order to receive the government payout. The scheme is expected to cost farms around 5,000 jobs and an 11 per cent loss of livestock.

 

If the Sustainable Farming Scheme wasn’t bad enough, Welsh farmers are also battling against Cardiff’s nonsensical bovine tuberculosis (bTB) policy. The control of bTB is, rightly, an animal-health priority. But as the infection crosses between species, it is proving impossible to limit its spread without dealing with the main source of the illness – namely, the wild badger population. In England and Ireland, it is recognised that limited badger culls, as well as immunisation, can reduce the spread of the disease. In Wales, however, the government has opted to cull livestock instead of culling the cuter-looking badgers. Perhaps this strategy could prove successful, in that there won’t be any bovine TB if there are no more cows left to catch it.

 

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/02/20/the-farmers-revolt-comes-to-wales/

[Boiler 43,597]

Someone called

[Dashinka 23,306]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Someone called

Figured that would be a bit of a dog whistle.

[Dashinka 23,306]

Blue "progressive" led cities seem delusional, but whatever, a DC jury also ruled in favor of the charlatan Mann.

 

Chicago sues five giant oil companies, accusing them of climate change destruction, fraud

 

Mayor Brandon Johnson’s administration filed a lawsuit in Cook County Circuit Court Tuesday that names BP, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, Exxon Mobil and Shell, accusing the companies of discrediting science and misleading the public as the climate crisis continued to wreak havoc on the planet.

 

The city is also suing the trade group American Petroleum Institute, which it accuses of conspiring with the companies to deceive consumers through disinformation campaigns even as the industry acknowledged internally that climate change was real.

 

https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2024/02/20/bp-chevron-conocophillips-exxonmobil-chicago-lawsuit-climate-change-damage

 

[TBoneTX 43,253]

This is objectively awful, if not horrifying.  Good intentions without considering consequences, yet again.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Klamath Dam Removal:  'It's an Environmental Disaster'

'They purposefully made a disaster and are leaving taxpayers and the locals to clean up their mess'

 

The removal of dams along the Klamath River in Siskiyou County, Northern California was sold as necessary to save salmon – specifically, "to restore habitat for endangered fish."  [...]

 

https://californiaglobe.com/articles/klamath-dam-removal-its-an-environmental-disaster/

[TBoneTX 43,253]

There's hope for the future after all, perhaps...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Young People Don't Actually Give a Damn About Climate Change, Poll Finds

 

Young people are unwilling to make even the smallest financial sacrifice to stop so-called climate change, according to a new poll.

The poll, conducted by the CRC Research for 85 Fund and reported on by Daily Mail, found that under half of people aged 18-34 would be willing to pay $10 a month to prevent a supposed climate catastrophe.  [...]

 

https://redstate.com/benkew/2024/02/27/young-people-dont-actually-give-a-damn-about-climate-change-poll-finds-n2170670

[Boiler 43,597]

 

[Crazy Cat 39,387]

46 minutes ago, Boiler said:

 

Very informative.  Let the lender and the consumer beware!!!  He made a good case against solar, although I'm sure that wasn't his intent.

Edited February 28 by Crazy Cat

[Boiler 43,597]

1 minute ago, Crazy Cat said:

Very informative.  Let the lender and consumer beware!!!

I know someone in the Business, sadly died in a motorbike accident some years back. And I know people off grid around here. One place i go to for work has an off grid system because it would cost an arm and leg to put the poles in to connect to the grid. I think they charge $5k a pole and then was told by someone doing a new build that they would require him to trach, I can only imagine how much that would cost.

 

Anyway I have been looking and I do not need an installer, I know electricians and can DIY, whatever. I must admit I find the US electrical system weird using 120v but it is what it is.

 

Now everyone up here needs batteries but historically it seems that is California etc they have been selling grid toed system without batteries and using the grid as their battery. Now California has seriously limited to what they will pay for your excess energy so the economics are screwed.

 

I bumped into someone who has a F150 Lightning, bought is secondhand hand for I think around 50k which sounds a lot but look at the price of a new truck. Amusing Ford have a cheap Ranger model, they are not selling that in the US, only expensive models.

 

So a Solar Panels  and Batteries use DC, and this has to be converted to AC at some point either at the Pael, Battery or in a separate box.

 

Panels used to be a dollar a watt, now nearer 50c.

 

Battery prices start at 30c a watt.

 

The Brain Boxes well they have more toys and whistles than they ever did and difficult compare, the above 2 are where the money is.

 

I have seen a  lot of places selling used panels seriously cheap, they still work you just need more of them.

 

When I was working out cost always seemed that the Battery was going to be the big sticker item, and things like the Tesla Powerwall were seriously heavy, 300lbs plus. Now the trend seems to be modular systems where the components are more like 100lbs, that can be managed.

 

You can see why grid tied systems were so attractive, produce electricity during the day and send it to the grid during the day, pull it back at night, make money on any excess. But those days seem to be nearly over.

 

Like I mentioned the dynamics where I am are different due to the potential cost of connecting. Plus if we have heavy wet late snow the grid could be down for a few days.

 

I have a small generator as an emergency backup. But that only powers essential loads.

 

I have seen enough sources say that grid ted contractor installed systems are c $2.50 a KW, and one sight I went to wanted to know my credit score as that seems to be where they make their money, sounds like the worst of buying a car.

 

Most of the stuff I have been looking at you just buy the stuff as you would any electrical system, the ones that do not avoid. One I liked EnPhase you had to be a qualified installer to commision the system, liked their stuff and was about to move on when I found out that you could as a self installer also go through their own line qualification system, now that I might do anyway. could learn a lot.

 

A lot of the setting up is web based or app based so that is how they control things. I would be concerned about using a proprietary system where they may not be around, similar with EVs really.

 

Ohh that Lightening had a 100k battery so at my 30c a watt that is $30k just for the battery, she showed me the outlets, all the 8? 120v supplied 30amp and I think there was a 50amp 240v in the back.

 

 

 

 

[Crazy Cat 39,387]

I was surprised to hear him say that there are so many residential solar installations done without batteries.  I've always thought of Solar's main purpose to be a backup system with a benefit of selling excess back to the electric company.  Of course, it's a different ball game when you're off-grid. 

[Dashinka 23,306]

15 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

This is objectively awful, if not horrifying.  Good intentions without considering consequences, yet again.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Klamath Dam Removal:  'It's an Environmental Disaster'

'They purposefully made a disaster and are leaving taxpayers and the locals to clean up their mess'

 

The removal of dams along the Klamath River in Siskiyou County, Northern California was sold as necessary to save salmon – specifically, "to restore habitat for endangered fish."  [...]

 

https://californiaglobe.com/articles/klamath-dam-removal-its-an-environmental-disaster/

No Leftist ever considers the consequences of their reckless policies.