Where to now?

[HashWad 19]

Well now that Poland is turning away Russians at the border... Where to now?

[slavaskii 885]

Poland has yet, and is apparently not considering, intra-Schengen restrictions. They are all external; i.e., only border with Belarus or Kaliningrad. You may still arrive in Poland from Germany, Czechia, Slovakia, etc. 

[HashWad 19]

8 hours ago, slavaskii said:

Poland has yet, and is apparently not considering, intra-Schengen restrictions. They are all external; i.e., only border with Belarus or Kaliningrad. You may still arrive in Poland from Germany, Czechia, Slovakia, etc. 

Not from what I'm reading.

https://www.rferl.org/a/poland-baltics-entry-ban-russians-eu-visas/32040504.html

[slavaskii 885]

That link doesn’t contradict what I’m saying. Once you’re inside the Schengen Zone, nobody checks your visa. All Poland and the Baltics are apparently saying is they won’t honor Schengen Visas at their *external Schengen borders,* which only impacts land crossings because Belavia and Aeroflot are already banned. 
 

I have yet to see any article suggesting Poland will deport any Russian found in Poland. Absent that, not a terrible amount changes. Again, rather than flying from Russia —> Istanbul/Dubai —> Warsaw, you go to Berlin and take the train. This would only be problematic if border control was reinstated along Polish/German border, which, as I’ve said, is within their legal rights - but they’ve yet to do.

Edited September 20, 2022 by slavaskii

[slavaskii 885]

I should say this whole conversation may become irrelevant pending Putin and Shoigu's statement, and Belarus' possible obligations under CSTO, come two hours.

[Lynxyonok 316]

1 hour ago, slavaskii said:

I should say this whole conversation may become irrelevant pending Putin and Shoigu's statement, and Belarus' possible obligations under CSTO, come two hours.

They are running late... but I agree. This is likely to change visa process for months to come. Regardless of where each one of us stands politically: changes will impact everyone one way or another.

[slavaskii 885]

17 minutes ago, Lynxyonok said:

They are running late... but I agree. This is likely to change visa process for months to come. Regardless of where each one of us stands politically: changes will impact everyone one way or another.

Yes, I’m watching it like a hawk right now. Very concerning, what will be said, but the mass mobilization and restriction on leaving seems to be inevitable after tonight. 
 

Unfortunately, it appears as if the time to get out of Russia and Belarus has been severed. 

[Boiler 43,451]

The 4 occupied areas voted 99.2% in favour of joining Russia, seems no way back.

[Kineo 93]

28 minutes ago, Boiler said:

The 4 occupied areas voted 99.2% in favour of joining Russia, seems no way back.

I think I missed something here. Where did you see this?

[TBoneTX 43,061]

This article, just out, says nothing about a vote that I saw while scanning it.  It does have some interesting background on the internal Russian situation.

https://redstate.com/streiff/2022/09/20/vladimir-putin-to-address-russia-annexation-of-ukraine-provinces-and-mobilization-seem-to-be-on-the-table-n630345

[slavaskii 885]

Pack up everyone, his (pre-recorded) address is now scheduled for early tomorrow morning. Broadcasters have apparently booked an hour in total, unsure if that includes Shoigu’s speech. Have the Duma’s laws on martial law and mobilization gone into effect, or do they require Putin’s signature? I’ve heard varying things on what the Duma has done.

[Lynxyonok 316]

20 minutes ago, slavaskii said:

Pack up everyone, his (pre-recorded) address is now scheduled for early tomorrow morning. Broadcasters have apparently booked an hour in total, unsure if that includes Shoigu’s speech. Have the Duma’s laws on martial law and mobilization gone into effect, or do they require Putin’s signature? I’ve heard varying things on what the Duma has done.

 

Morning for them, 2am tonight for east coast, 11pm for California.

 

FYI, it's also an anniversary of the most important Russian victory in the medieval times (Kulikovo field, first victory over Golden Horde).

[Kineo 93]

4 hours ago, Lynxyonok said:

FYI, it's also an anniversary of the most important Russian victory in the medieval times (Kulikovo field, first victory over Golden Horde).

Thought this was September 8th.....

[Lynxyonok 316]

1 hour ago, Kineo said:

Thought this was September 8th.....

Correct. But on February 1, 1918, Russian calendar jumped 13 days ahead to align with Gregorian calendar in use in Western Europe.

[Kineo 93]

10 hours ago, Lynxyonok said:

Correct. But on February 1, 1918, Russian calendar jumped 13 days ahead to align with Gregorian calendar in use in Western Europe.

Ahhh, right, I forgot about that.