Vaccine rule for larger employers, federal contractors and certain health care workers to take effect January 4

[Ban Hammer 12,880]

3 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Yes almost wet my pants 

you'll be glad to know the vj jail finally got cable.  there is only one channel and you watch reruns of kamala harris cackling.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,330]

13 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

you'll be glad to know the vj jail finally got cable.  there is only one channel and you watch reruns of kamala harris cackling.

Great I need a break. Who knows might just have some company. 

[MaceMk 18]

20 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

There's some hope.  Look at all these lawsuits locked & loaded:

https://thefederalist.com/2021/11/04/here-are-the-conservatives-suing-biden-over-his-unconstitutional-vaccine-coercion/

Glad there are still influential people like this in this country. Seemed like slowly everyone started losing their minds over the vaccine, when you tell them you simply don't want it they fire at you 🙄 There's still hope.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

4 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

For what TOS violation exactly? Making a joke ?

I'm going to bed now, but I'll be back tomorrow to report you so he can wield that massive hammer o' joy.

[TBoneTX 43,422]

33 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

he can wield that massive hammer o' joy.

And what about us, huh huh huh?  Hmmmph.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,330]

8 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

I'm going to bed now, but I'll be back tomorrow to report you so he can wield that massive hammer o' joy.

You and you know who and the phallic symbol will join me. On top of that I will administer  forced jabs of the FDA approved Pfizer vaccine, while being forced to watch Hillary Clinton speeches 

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

Speaking of "vaccine" mandates, here are some up-to-date stats for all to peruse:

 

 

[TBoneTX 43,422]

Good news, for now:

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/11/06/breaking-court-decision-in-on-bidens-osha-mandate-n471113

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

If covid was truly so dangerous, why would we suddenly push the mandates back a couple of months?  

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,330]

53 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

If covid was truly so dangerous, why would we suddenly push the mandates back a couple of months?  

I have told you for some time the mandates would fail for a variety of reasons. 

[TBoneTX 43,422]

On 11/7/2021 at 1:05 PM, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I have told you for some time the mandates would fail for a variety of reasons. 

Still, enough entities will impose them that it will wreak havoc.

[Dashinka 23,375]

A very good read.

 

Here Are the Arguments That Persuaded the 5th Circuit To Block OSHA's Vaccine Mandate for Private Employers

 

But the federal government has no general authority to protect public health, control communicable diseases, or require vaccination, all of which are primarily state responsibilities. The administration therefore presented the vaccine mandate as an "emergency temporary standard" (ETS) issued by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), which is charged specifically with protecting employees from workplace hazards. As the 5th Circuit indicated, that legal strategy leaves the mandate open to challenge on both statutory and constitutional grounds.

 

The plaintiffs in BST Holdings v. OSHA, who are represented by the Chicago-based Liberty Justice Center and Louisiana's Pelican Institute for Public Policy, argue that the ETS exceeds the agency's authority under the Occupational Safety and Health Act. Even if it didn't, they say, empowering OSHA to issue such a sweeping order would exceed the federal government's power to regulate interstate commerce and violate the nondelegation doctrine, which constrains lawmaking by executive agencies.

 

The ETS option, which OSHA rarely uses, allows the agency to circumvent the usual rule making process, which typically takes years, by imposing regulations that take effect immediately upon publication. But to avoid the public notice, comment, and hearing requirements that ordinarily apply to OSHA rules, the agency has to identify a "grave danger" to employees "from exposure to substances or agents determined to be toxic or physically harmful or from new hazards." It also has to show the emergency standard is "necessary to protect employees from such danger."

 

https://reason.com/2021/11/07/here-are-the-arguments-that-persuaded-the-5th-circuit-to-block-oshas-vaccine-mandate-for-private-employers/

[jg121783 3,908]

54 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

A very good read.

 

Here Are the Arguments That Persuaded the 5th Circuit To Block OSHA's Vaccine Mandate for Private Employers

 

But the federal government has no general authority to protect public health, control communicable diseases, or require vaccination, all of which are primarily state responsibilities. The administration therefore presented the vaccine mandate as an "emergency temporary standard" (ETS) issued by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), which is charged specifically with protecting employees from workplace hazards. As the 5th Circuit indicated, that legal strategy leaves the mandate open to challenge on both statutory and constitutional grounds.

 

The plaintiffs in BST Holdings v. OSHA, who are represented by the Chicago-based Liberty Justice Center and Louisiana's Pelican Institute for Public Policy, argue that the ETS exceeds the agency's authority under the Occupational Safety and Health Act. Even if it didn't, they say, empowering OSHA to issue such a sweeping order would exceed the federal government's power to regulate interstate commerce and violate the nondelegation doctrine, which constrains lawmaking by executive agencies.

 

The ETS option, which OSHA rarely uses, allows the agency to circumvent the usual rule making process, which typically takes years, by imposing regulations that take effect immediately upon publication. But to avoid the public notice, comment, and hearing requirements that ordinarily apply to OSHA rules, the agency has to identify a "grave danger" to employees "from exposure to substances or agents determined to be toxic or physically harmful or from new hazards." It also has to show the emergency standard is "necessary to protect employees from such danger."

 

https://reason.com/2021/11/07/here-are-the-arguments-that-persuaded-the-5th-circuit-to-block-oshas-vaccine-mandate-for-private-employers/

This was a good ruling. I'm not so sure the supreme court will also render the correct ruling. Only time will tell.

[Dashinka 23,375]

1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

This was a good ruling. I'm not so sure the supreme court will also render the correct ruling. Only time will tell.

To be fair, it was not a ruling, but rather a stay based on concerns the 5th Circuit had with the OSHA mandate.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

Biden, Nancy, Kamala, and Circle-back-Socky all said that the federal government had no place mandating vaccines, and that they would never try to do so.  Look how THAT turned out for We the People.