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This Richard M. Fleming? https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/09/28/2018-21210/richard-m-fleming-denial-of-hearing-final-debarment-order

This one, right? https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/omaha/press-releases/2009/om082009.htm

Not one but two articles were devoted to this person on RetractionWatch  https://retractionwatch.com/2018/11/13/a-convicted-felon-writes-a-paper-on-hotly-debated-diets-what-could-go-wrong/ (2018) https://retractionwatch.com/2020/05/29/a-convicted-felon-wants-people-to-enroll-in-a-covid-19-clinical-trial-what-could-go-wrong/ (2020)

 

Healthcare fraud, mail fraud, fabricating data for clinical trials? Papers retracted because of made up data and undisclosed conflict of interest? InfoWars as a platform? Every detail in this person's biography screams fraud. 

And it looks like the guy never earned his PhD that he claims to have?

 

Wow, reading about this person turned out to be truly fascinating! I really appreciate your post!

 

And for the "presentation". It has extremely poor methodology, and the results cannot support Dr. Fleming's conclusions. 

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32 minutes ago, Rosalind F said:

This Richard M. Fleming? https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/09/28/2018-21210/richard-m-fleming-denial-of-hearing-final-debarment-order

This one, right? https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/omaha/press-releases/2009/om082009.htm

Not one but two articles were devoted to this person on RetractionWatch  https://retractionwatch.com/2018/11/13/a-convicted-felon-writes-a-paper-on-hotly-debated-diets-what-could-go-wrong/ (2018) https://retractionwatch.com/2020/05/29/a-convicted-felon-wants-people-to-enroll-in-a-covid-19-clinical-trial-what-could-go-wrong/ (2020)

 

Healthcare fraud, mail fraud, fabricating data for clinical trials? Papers retracted because of made up data and undisclosed conflict of interest? InfoWars as a platform? Every detail in this person's biography screams fraud. 

And it looks like the guy never earned his PhD that he claims to have?

 

Wow, reading about this person turned out to be truly fascinating! I really appreciate your post!

 

And for the "presentation". It has extremely poor methodology, and the results cannot support Dr. Fleming's conclusions. 

Sounds a lot like Drs. Fauci and Collins.

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6 hours ago, Rosalind F said:

This Richard M. Fleming? https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/09/28/2018-21210/richard-m-fleming-denial-of-hearing-final-debarment-order

This one, right? https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/omaha/press-releases/2009/om082009.htm

Not one but two articles were devoted to this person on RetractionWatch  https://retractionwatch.com/2018/11/13/a-convicted-felon-writes-a-paper-on-hotly-debated-diets-what-could-go-wrong/ (2018) https://retractionwatch.com/2020/05/29/a-convicted-felon-wants-people-to-enroll-in-a-covid-19-clinical-trial-what-could-go-wrong/ (2020)

 

Healthcare fraud, mail fraud, fabricating data for clinical trials? Papers retracted because of made up data and undisclosed conflict of interest? InfoWars as a platform? Every detail in this person's biography screams fraud. 

And it looks like the guy never earned his PhD that he claims to have?

 

Wow, reading about this person turned out to be truly fascinating! I really appreciate your post!

 

And for the "presentation". It has extremely poor methodology, and the results cannot support Dr. Fleming's conclusions. 

Attacking the messenger rather than the message I see. If you look deeper into what he was convicted for it was essentially for an accounting error. I'm sure he pled guilty rather than spend the hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars it costs to mount a vigorous legal defense in federal court. I have no idea why you believe he doesn't have a PhD. I have been unable to find anything that corroborates that claim. Anyways it's well known that the Pfizer shot causes blood clots and has contaminants in it (something even the Japanese government admits) regardless of what you think about the presentation or the presenter.

 

5 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Sounds a lot like Drs. Fauci and Collins.

Don't trust the guy who was convicted essentially for an accounting error. Trust the guy who tortures dogs and perjured himself multiple times in front of congress lying about gain of function research (wonder when he is gonna face charges for those felonies) among other things.

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2 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Attacking the messenger rather than the message I see. If you look deeper into what he was convicted for it was essentially for an accounting error. I'm sure he pled guilty rather than spend the hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars it costs to mount a vigorous legal defense in federal court. I have no idea why you believe he doesn't have a PhD. I have been unable to find anything that corroborates that claim. Anyways it's well known that the Pfizer shot causes blood clots and has contaminants in it (something even the Japanese government admits) regardless of what you think about the presentation or the presenter.

 

Don't trust the guy who was convicted essentially for an accounting error. Trust the guy who tortures dogs and perjured himself multiple times in front of congress lying about gain of function research (wonder when he is gonna face charges for those felonies) among other things.

This doctor isn't the first, nor the loudest about clotting from mRNA drugs.  It's a waiting game.  And I have all the time in the world.  But I agree with you, trying to shut down the message by discrediting the messenger is the go-to ploy of the left.  Have seen it MANY times against doctors in the past 18 months.

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41 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Attacking the messenger rather than the message I see. If you look deeper into what he was convicted for it was essentially for an accounting error. I'm sure he pled guilty rather than spend the hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars it costs to mount a vigorous legal defense in federal court. I have no idea why you believe he doesn't have a PhD. I have been unable to find anything that corroborates that claim. Anyways it's well known that the Pfizer shot causes blood clots and has contaminants in it (something even the Japanese government admits) regardless of what you think about the presentation or the presenter.

 

Don't trust the guy who was convicted essentially for an accounting error. Trust the guy who tortures dogs and perjured himself multiple times in front of congress lying about gain of function research (wonder when he is gonna face charges for those felonies) among other things.

For a researcher, the reputation matters a lot. One lie ruins the reputation. I read about PhD degrees taken away because of falsified or fabricated data. 

I honestly opened the link you provided fully prepared to evaluate the methodology, look at the statistical analysis, check the hypothesis. But this research was done so poorly that I could not help but go check this person's biography. So yes, I checked the messenger - of course I did and gosh I'm glad I did! 

 

And no, it is way more than accounting error that got him convicted. It is the pattern of behaviour. 

He falsified data many times in his previous works, and his papers were rejected (not accepted to publication) and retracted (withdrawn from publication) because of him lying many times, again and again. It's a pattern. 

 

Re: his PhD, if you follow the comments section in the RetractionWatch article from 2018, this Fleming guy himself came in the comments section to argue with people. But he never answered the simplest question "where did you get your PhD from?". He got MD and JD (from an online school) - that was verified, but he also claims to have a PhD which he could not say where from. 

 

If that's the guy you choose to believe... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Rosalind F said:

For a researcher, the reputation matters a lot. One lie ruins the reputation. I read about PhD degrees taken away because of falsified or fabricated data. 

I honestly opened the link you provided fully prepared to evaluate the methodology, look at the statistical analysis, check the hypothesis. But this research was done so poorly that I could not help but go check this person's biography. So yes, I checked the messenger - of course I did and gosh I'm glad I did! 

 

And no, it is way more than accounting error that got him convicted. It is the pattern of behaviour. 

He falsified data many times in his previous works, and his papers were rejected (not accepted to publication) and retracted (withdrawn from publication) because of him lying many times, again and again. It's a pattern. 

 

Re: his PhD, if you follow the comments section in the RetractionWatch article from 2018, this Fleming guy himself came in the comments section to argue with people. But he never answered the simplest question "where did you get your PhD from?". He got MD and JD (from an online school) - that was verified, but he also claims to have a PhD which he could not say where from. 

 

If that's the guy you choose to believe... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

 

In other words you didn't even look at the presentation after viewing the first hit piece that came up on google when searching his name. As far as the no PhD claim goes your gonna have to do a little better than "a comment section on some random website said so". As far as trusting him goes there is so much misinformation on both sides that I don't trust anyone. Like I said in my first comment this just adds to evidence that is already out there.

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1 hour ago, LIBrty4all said:

But I agree with you, trying to shut down the message by discrediting the messenger is the go-to ploy of the left.

If the messenger has been proven to only spread falsehoods, it's a pretty valid thing to go after.

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1 minute ago, LIBrty4all said:

So how do you feel about Fauci and Biden?

This feels like a weird question given Fauci's accomplishments and the fact that Biden isn't even a doctor or part of this conversation. But sure, let's compare Fauci to the guy who goes on Alex Jones to talk about the vaccine he can't even spell right.

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1 minute ago, sl1pstream said:

This feels like a weird question given Fauci's accomplishments and the fact that Biden isn't even a doctor or part of this conversation. But sure, let's compare Fauci to the guy who goes on Alex Jones to talk about the vaccine he can't even spell right.

Can you outline Fauci's "accomplishments" for the new members of CEHST please?  Let's not talk about funding GoF research in Wuhan nor HIV experiments on kids, nor dog torture if you choose not to. What are his ACCOMPLISHMENTS?

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16 minutes ago, sl1pstream said:

Ussanews?

If the messenger has been proven to only spread falsehoods, it's a pretty valid thing to go after.

Proven? What proof would that be? Some random website that pops up in google search results when searching someone's name?

 

7 minutes ago, sl1pstream said:

This feels like a weird question given Fauci's accomplishments and the fact that Biden isn't even a doctor or part of this conversation. But sure, let's compare Fauci to the guy who goes on Alex Jones to talk about the vaccine he can't even spell right.

Yeah torturing dogs and repeatedly lying to congress about dangerous gain of function research are such great accomplishments. Let's not forget this beauty which Fraudci oversaw:

 

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1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

Proven? What proof would that be? Some random website

You might want to check your own sources, bud.

 

Starting with something called ussanews.

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5 minutes ago, sl1pstream said:

You might want to check your own sources, bud.

 

Starting with something called ussanews.

I know it sounds bananas but we're not allowed to criticize "news" sources on here.

You know something and I know something but we have to pretend we don't know that something. That goes for people criticizing

1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

 some random website

as well. Just don't want people getting reported when this rule isn't widely known. :) 

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2 hours ago, jg121783 said:

In other words you didn't even look at the presentation after viewing the first hit piece that came up on google when searching his name. As far as the no PhD claim goes your gonna have to do a little better than "a comment section on some random website said so". As far as trusting him goes there is so much misinformation on both sides that I don't trust anyone. Like I said in my first comment this just adds to evidence that is already out there.

No, did you even look at my reply? :) I looked at the video, and the research is poorly done and poorly presented. 

 

Somebody else found the actual CV that was submitted by Dr. Flemming for court https://forbetterscience.files.wordpress.com/2021/09/fleming-cv-redacted.pdf (no mention of PhD!) and a nice detailed post about the person's story https://forbetterscience.com/2021/09/27/cheshire-vs-dr-who/

 

Anyhow, the guy is a fraud and a felon with paper track of messing with data (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/clc.23047), and the presented "research" fits this picture perfectly. 

 

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