TERRIBLE officer behavior at combo interview, need HELP and ADVISE

[Orangesapples 1,954]

1 hour ago, DSOTM1973 said:

I am sorry but filing a complaint like this will end with he said v she said. It will do nothing good especially since the interview wasn't record and there is no prove of what happened. Also, It is very possible that the OP interviewed by the supervisor too, who knows? The OP should sit tight and wait for the decision rather than going on a fight with a government agency. 

She wouldn't be fighting the agency, just alerting the agency about unacceptable conduct by one of its employees. There is always someone above him unless he's the director of USCIS which if he was, he wouldn't be conducting interviews. Also, someone above that interviews are videotaped, I'm not sure sure if that's true. 

[HRQX 4,145]

8 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

Also, someone above that interviews are videotaped, I'm not sure sure if that's true. 

I think it depends (i.e. some field offices always do, and others only sometimes) https://hackinglawpractice.com/faqs/does-uscis-record-immigration-interviews/

[African Zealot 1,453]

1 hour ago, DSOTM1973 said:

I am sorry but filing a complaint like this will end with he said v she said. It will do nothing good especially since the interview wasn't record and there is no prove of what happened. Also, It is very possible that the OP interviewed by the supervisor too, who knows? The OP should sit tight and wait for the decision rather than going on a fight with a government agency. 

Interviews for the most part are recorded these days.

[ToniNiki 37]

19 hours ago, laylalex said:

I just wanted to say as one woman who has suffered a miscarriage to another, I'm sorry for your loss, and I'm especially sorry that this person was so callous about a very painful time for your and your husband. Miscarriage, we are told, is more common than anyone talks about but that doesn't make it any less difficult. Best wishes to you and your husband. ❤️ 

Thank you so much! Yes it was very shocking and heartbreaking to hear the officer almost joke about it. 

[ToniNiki 37]

16 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

There is nothing polite I can say about the psychopath that interviewed you. I'm so sorry. Especially when you had great proof, such as joint accounts and owning a house together! What. Also, who has papers for a miscarriage, that's beyond ridiculous. 

 

Which office was that? Might be a good warning for others. Also, maybe others can help with giving instructions on how to file a complaint. 

That was in Charleston SC. Yes I was shocked that I needed to bring those papers from my doctor, but We already contacted our senator’s office and they if needed will add those to our case. Now we just need to wait till we know their decision and will go from there! But trust me I want that officer to see them and feel ashamed.

[ToniNiki 37]

11 hours ago, millefleur said:

Does not sound like a Stokes because only the immigrant was interviewed separately, then the USC spouse was called in and they were interviewed together. In a Stokes, both would have been interviewed separately.

 

The only thing I can think of from a criminal psychology perspective is that he was confused/angered by you remaining calm to his absurd accusations. Usually when someone is accused of something false, the 'innocent' reaction is to get angry back and defend yourself emotionally. Regardless, this IO's behavior is despicable and should be reported. Even if there was the slightest red flag to justify a harsher interview, this IO clearly stepped over the line.

 

Yes I wanted to act out and tell him many things but I was scared that it would make things worse. No one deserves to be humiliated just because some red flags. We all human beings and we need to remain that. I did not want him to be anything but strict and straight to point but that was far from it.

[ToniNiki 37]

6 hours ago, Ray.Bonaquist said:

What you met was a wild beast garbed in a human exterior. What kind of vile misanthrope makes light of someone’s miscarriage? The good thing is all these interviews are now conducted in camera so there’s evidence if you decide to escalate the issue.

 

Don't let the miscreant steal your joy this holiday season. Ultimately things will work out.

Thank you I really appreciate your support! You know I rarely talk about our miscarriage but so many others had experienced it and it is super traumatic and humiliating itself to say it out loud...

[ToniNiki 37]

6 hours ago, JFH said:

I would urge you to file a complaint. This sort of behavior needs to be reported and the consequences need to be felt. 
 

If you do decide to file a complaint, I would focus on the one point - the personal and completely inappropriate comments he made relating to your loss. I would leave the other items out. In my experience, complaints are resolved better when there is one major issue focused on that cannot be defended, rather than a laundry list of random woes. I have to admit, and I apologize for this, that when I started to read your post and your first complaint was waiting 45 minutes I almost hit the back button, especially as I filed almost a year before you and am still waiting for my interview. There may even be a valid reason for the delay (technical problems, staff shortage due to sickness, etc). I am confident that USCIS will be able to defend almost everything you mentioned but the issue of how he reacted and responded about the loss is completely inexcusable. He’s lucky he didn’t have me in the chair in front of him. When asked for “proof” I would have been very tempted to lift up my shirt and show him the surgical scar I have as a result of a traumatic pregnancy loss. His behavior in this regard was completely unacceptable and I would strongly encourage you to take the time to report this matter. 

I am so sorry to hear of not only how you were treated but of your miscarriage. Take good care of yourself and don’t be ashamed to grieve as long as you need and as much as you need. 

 

Thank you so soooo much! I am very appreciative of your words! I will not leave this and will file complaint just for the sake of so many of us who do already struggle emotionally with the loss and still treated like we are some third world trashy girls who would say it to prove legit marriage...insane

[ToniNiki 37]

2 hours ago, Khatera DS said:

I am so sorry for what you went through. The officer who interviewed my husband also behaved that way. I can totally relate to all the feelings you feel right now. I wholeheartedly wish you the best and will keep you and your family in my prayers. Please, keep us updated here. 

Thank you so much! Me and my husband are so appreciative of everyone on this forum! You make us feel better!!! Yes we trying to stay calm and just move on with Christmas preparations while we are waiting on the news! I will definitely keep you updated!

[Coco8 1,039]

I find everything you said about the interview troublesome. If I have to point one thing out is the fact that this officer thinks that having children makes a marriage more valid. Personal choices like having or not having children (I'm very sorry about your loss) are not evidence of strength of a relationship and he should not provide commentary on someone's life choices.  

[ToniNiki 37]

1 minute ago, Coco8 said:

I find everything you said about the interview troublesome. If I have to point one thing out is the fact that this officer thinks that having children makes a marriage more valid. Personal choices like having or not having children (I'm very sorry about your loss) are not evidence of strength of a relationship and he should not provide commentary on someone's life choices.  

I agree with that! Yes I would probably just suck it up if not that comment from the officer. I do understand that it is their job to find out who is fake married and I really am fine with rest of the comments and questions he did. What bothered me is his personal attitude to everything I or my husband said. He would show his disrespect with even his body language and look. We should remain professional at our jobs I believe. And I don’t think he was a fair representation of United States government 

[Beryl Topaz 21]

On 12/18/2020 at 8:35 PM, ToniNiki said:

Hi everyone!

 

Me and my husband just went for my combo interview ( i-751 and n-400) and OH BOY it was absolutely humiliating experience.

 

First they made us wait in the lobby for 45 minutes when every other person got admitted pretty much straight away. Then they officer showed up and called me and told my husband to wait. And the hell started to happen. His first question after getting my oath and date of birth was why I decided to change my surname to my husband`s and stated I should not do so because it would not convince him that our marriage is legit. I said that at the time of the wedding we did not think about it ( married on a tiny island in Caribbean not in States) but I do want to change my surname now, its time I said. 

 

Next he asked little about when we got married, and then said : "Mam did you married your husband for green card?". I did say no i  did marry him coz i love him. He started threatening me that he had seen many people in that chair and no one will admit to it. Then he asked if we have kids. And here is the WORST  part. I said no, he asked why. I said we want to and had a sad experience this July with miscarriage. He look at me with disguise in his face  and said "And you have a paper to prove it?" I honestly replied that I did not think this is related to my interview so no I did not bring it and he laughed and said " Of COURSE you do NOT have them!" so he accused me of lying about my miscarriage. I stated shaking with anger inside but kept looking still and calm. 

 

Then the ball started rolling, he kept asking if I married for green card. I calmly said 2 more times No i did coz I love my husband. He started going through my file and said "I don`t know how you got approved to come here at all because I dont see any proof of legit marriage" And let me tell you, I sent SO MUCH! We have joint account which both our salaries go to, we pay bills from it, we own a house together, we own cars, insurances, tons of pictures of my family here with  his, we went to Russia with my spouse to see my family as well, trips to Mexico, NY, vacations, cards from friends and family.....NAME IT!

 

He then continued: "Why your name is not on a rental lease for apartment?". First, that was 3 years ago, second I explained that rental company would not place me as renter due to no DL and job ( that was when I just moved here) so my husband is renter and I shown as occupant. Also I added we do own our hose for over a year now which we both own. He opened my bank statement ( joint account) and said : " I dont see any bills here, just Amazon and going out to restaurants" I took recent statement from my docs I brought and said here, you can actually see all bills per month we pay from same account. He did not want to look ( I also sent them with my N-400 so he just did not spend any time to study our case) He did not want to see any evidence I brought, pictures etc. He took our deed on house and thats it.

 

I passed all tests easily. Then he asked how we met, I explained. Then called in my husband. He asked him also how we met and when he said same as I did with exact date (we do celebrate this as our anniversary as well so we know it) he said "Sounds like you both learnt it by hard!"

 

He asked if we have more to add, because he does not believe in our marriage, my spouse offered all the same as I did plus IRS taxes showing both filing together, but officer said it is not a proof coz it is financially benefits to file together!!!!

 

In the end officer said we will hear smth back in 30 days or less by mail.

 

Anyways, he was mean, humiliating, talking to me like I am sort of criminal. Also made comments after every of my answer showing he does not give a #$%$#@! what I said and he made his mind about us. He treated me so bad that after the interview I could not stop crying, my husband got extremely mad coz he saw it with his own eyes. 

 

I just want to share this with you and you to tell me what you think. Once again, we are happily in love, all possible proof was offered, I adore his family, we had proof of their and my family vacation together over Christmas, tons of pics, etc etc. I did not one time interrupted him, or made a face or raised my tone. I was acting overly polite even tho I wanted to tell him how inappropriate he is acting. I kept being calm. 

Hmm this is so sad, sorry for your miscarriage.. The officer was straight up rude and seemed reluctant to look at the evidence you provided, and the worst part he making laughs about your past miscarriage (sorry once again). He was not professional at all and needs to be reported...

 

Pls do update us on  later developments on the case

Hope u get this resolved ASAP

[Phoenix777 73]

I am sorry for your experience...but good thing that you was able to keep calm, he specially threatened you to hear “yes I was married him for the green card”! As a lot of people do it. But also where is we, legal applicants, with legal bona fide marriages, and have to prove it...what is your service center for 751? How long was you waiting? 
i am also sure that you will be approved soon, please keep us updated. 

[ToniNiki 37]

14 hours ago, Phoenix777 said:

I am sorry for your experience...but good thing that you was able to keep calm, he specially threatened you to hear “yes I was married him for the green card”! As a lot of people do it. But also where is we, legal applicants, with legal bona fide marriages, and have to prove it...what is your service center for 751? How long was you waiting? 
i am also sure that you will be approved soon, please keep us updated. 

I had MSC as my file first letters so I assume it was National Benefit Center. And local office in Charleston SC. I applied in September 2019 and my case was pending interview since this April. Then I filled my N-400 and that was a push to get both applications reviewed. I absolutely agree that many people do commit fraud and lie about their marriage and it is the officer`s job and duty to find out the truth. But no one should be treated like a criminal just because they do married American and do want to be together in same country. We all human being after all, there are subjects you can not joke about.  I hope that those who will review our case will see everything they need and approve us soon. After this humiliating experience I am so ready to be done!

[ms_bobdog 501]

Sorry for the traumatic experience you went through. Sending you some love!