Trump says 'hopefully' states won't be allowed to count ballots after Election Day, which is a normal part of the electoral process

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https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hopes-states-wont-allowed-count-ballots-after-election-day-2020-10

 

I am so done with this a***ipe

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,376]

if your tax return is postmarked later than the last filing day does the IRS still count it as filing on time ?

 

 

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

16 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

if your tax return is postmarked later than the last filing day does the IRS still count it as filing on time ?

 

 

If your credit card payment is postmarked later than the last payment day do they still report to the bureaus you paid it on time? 🧑‍🎓

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

if your tax return is postmarked later than the last filing day does the IRS still count it as filing on time ?

 

 

 

  Bad analogy. He wasn't talking about postmarks, he was talking about not counting votes after Nov 3rd. We know that it usually does take longer. We have actually seen that happen to various degrees on many occasions, the 2000 election probably being the most significant example. If you remember back to 2000, federal law allows states up until 6 days before the electoral college convenes to complete the process of determining who the electors will be. That includes vote counts, recounts and any legal challenges to the outcome.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

if your tax return is postmarked later than the last filing day does the IRS still count it as filing on time ?

 

 

I have never had the IRS reject my return or check, even when late. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

21 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-hopes-states-wont-allowed-count-ballots-after-election-day-2020-10

 

I am so done with this a***ipe

Sorry, but what the state is doing now here in NC is BS. SCOTUS allowed up to 9 days after election for your vote to be counted if it is postmarked by the 3rd. That is not including the people that had to redo their absentee ballot because it was flawed. 

 

 

How much does anyone want to bet that there will be a court case for ballots to be counted after election day that haven't been postmarked?

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Just now, Cyberfx1024 said:

Sorry, but what the state is doing now here in NC is BS. SCOTUS allowed up to 9 days after election for your vote to be counted if it is postmarked by the 3rd. That is not including the people that had to redo their absentee ballot because it was flawed. 

 

 

How much does anyone want to bet that there will be a court case for ballots to be counted after election day that haven't been postmarked?

If a ballot is valid, and the postmark is valid, why would it be thrown out? 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

4 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

If a ballot is valid, and the postmark is valid, why would it be thrown out? 

Because you still have to cure it. If the ballot is rejected then it has to be sent back to that person for them to cure or fix their ballot then send it back. Which the main reason the absentee ballots get rejected here in NC is that they aren't getting a witness to verify it before they send it in

Edited October 30, 2020 by Cyberfx1024

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5 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Because you still have to cure it. If the ballot is rejected then it has to be sent back to that person for them to cure or fix their ballot then send it back. Which the main reason the absentee ballots get rejected here in NC is that they aren't getting a witness to verify it before they send it in

You would need to fix a ballot that was wrong, but not a perfect ballot with a postmark of election day.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

23 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Sorry, but what the state is doing now here in NC is BS. SCOTUS allowed up to 9 days after election for your vote to be counted if it is postmarked by the 3rd. That is not including the people that had to redo their absentee ballot because it was flawed. 

 

 

How much does anyone want to bet that there will be a court case for ballots to be counted after election day that haven't been postmarked?

 

   Why shouldn't states be allowed to set their own criteria? The constitution allows that, as long as the meet the obligations set forth by congress.

[Dashinka 24,593]

9 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Why shouldn't states be allowed to set their own criteria? The constitution allows that, as long as the meet the obligations set forth by congress.

States should which is why we don't need the Congress passing election laws.  But the questions being asked is are states following their own constitutions when making these changes.  I heard in one case the states will not be allowed to verify signatures when this has been part of their election law regarding absentee ballots.  This is something that has been being pushed by the Democrats in several states including my own.

 

https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/sc-ballots-cannot-be-rejected-for-signature-discrepancies-judge-rules/article_68f7370a-187c-11eb-b6f0-473456357a00.html 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

10 hours ago, Dashinka said:

States should which is why we don't need the Congress passing election laws.  But the questions being asked is are states following their own constitutions when making these changes.  I heard in one case the states will not be allowed to verify signatures when this has been part of their election law regarding absentee ballots.  This is something that has been being pushed by the Democrats in several states including my own.

 

https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/sc-ballots-cannot-be-rejected-for-signature-discrepancies-judge-rules/article_68f7370a-187c-11eb-b6f0-473456357a00.html 

 

    Specific to the OP and topic though, why should any state stop counting votes at midnight on Nov 3rd? They should count any legally cast votes until they have finished counting them all, up until the deadlines set forth by law or constitution. That's how every other election has worked.

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23 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Specific to the OP and topic though, why should any state stop counting votes at midnight on Nov 3rd? They should count any legally cast votes until they have finished counting them all, up until the deadlines set forth by law or constitution. That's how every other election has worked.

 

What I don't get is the belief that the voter   edit: exists to comply with the rules instead of the rules and systems serving the needs of the electorate. If the state cannot understand that concept it is time to retire some officials. 

 

If the mail is postmarked, the deadline is not the evening of the postmark as the president has tried to claim. 

Edited October 30, 2020 by CanAm1980
Serves to exists

[Steeleballz 7,550]

6 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

 

What I don't get is the belief that the voter serves to comply with the rules instead of the rules and systems serving the needs of the electorate. If the state cannot understand that concept it is time to retire some officials. 

 

If the mail is postmarked, the deadline is not the evening of the postmark as the president has tried to claim. 

 

    Most of the changes here have been in response to the ongoing pandemic. It seems like most of the resistance is coming from the same group(s) that are opposed to making any changes because of that. The president included in that group.