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Intending Immigrant needs to Fill up form I-864 with I-944

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Filed: J-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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With the new requirements for Form I-485, requiring the intending immigrant to submit form I-864 and I-944, its so confusing how do you fill up the form I-864 if you're the intending immigrant. Most of the checkbox doesn't apply to you. For example the Part 1. Anyone? Please help. Thank you

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Filed: F-2A Visa Country: Nepal
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The intending immigrant doesn’t fill out an i864, the petitioner does.

Spouse:

2015-06-16: I-130 Sent

2015-08-17: I-130 approved

2015-09-23: NVC received file

2015-10-05: NVC assigned Case number, Invoice ID & Beneficiary ID

2016-06-30: DS-261 completed, AOS Fee Paid, WL received

2016-07-05: Received IV invoice, IV Fee Paid

2016-07-06: DS-260 Submitted

2016-07-07: AOS and IV Package mailed

2016-07-08: NVC Scan

2016-08-08: Case Complete

2017-06-30: Interview, approved

2017-07-04: Visa in hand

2017-08-01: Entry to US

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Myself:

2016-05-10: N-400 Sent

2016-05-16: N-400 NOA1

2016-05-26: Biometrics

2017-01-30: Interview

2017-03-02: Oath Ceremony

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Correct. You (the beneficiary) fills out the I-944. Your petitioner (in my case my wife), fills out I-864. If the petitioner does not make enough money to sponsor you, you will need a co-sponsor.

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9 hours ago, arken said:

The intending immigrant doesn’t fill out an i864, the petitioner does.

SO there's a new law in filling out I-485 now, "Public charge" 
9. Public Charge:  Declaration of Self-Sufficiency (Form I-944) and Affidavit of Support Under Section 213A of the INA (Form I-864) In addition to Form I-485, you must file Form I-944 and Form I-864 to establish that you are not inadmissible based on the public charge ground, if you fall into one of the categories listed below.  See Form I-944 Instructions and Form I-864 Instructions for more information.  Failure to submit a required I-944 or I-864, will result in a denial of your I-485.  Please note that Form I-864W is no longer required, so you do not need to submit a separate Form I-864W with your Form I-485.

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7 hours ago, juancarlos said:

Correct. You (the beneficiary) fills out the I-944. Your petitioner (in my case my wife), fills out I-864. If the petitioner does not make enough money to sponsor you, you will need a co-sponsor.

That's what we did before, but after the new I-485, with the Public Charge part, they require you to fill up I-864 too. 
9. Public Charge:  Declaration of Self-Sufficiency (Form I-944) and Affidavit of Support Under Section 213A of the INA (Form I-864) In addition to Form I-485, you must file Form I-944 and Form I-864 to establish that you are not inadmissible based on the public charge ground, if you fall into one of the categories listed below.  See Form I-944 Instructions and Form I-864 Instructions for more information.  Failure to submit a required I-944 or I-864, will result in a denial of your I-485.  Please note that Form I-864W is no longer required, so you do not need to submit a separate Form I-864W with your Form I-485.

8 hours ago, Quarknase said:

From my understanding the I-864 is about the petitioner and their finances, the I-944 about the beneficiary.

That's what I understood too, but with the new I-485, they require the intending immigrant to fill up and submit I-864 too. 
9. Public Charge:  Declaration of Self-Sufficiency (Form I-944) and Affidavit of Support Under Section 213A of the INA (Form I-864) In addition to Form I-485, you must file Form I-944 and Form I-864 to establish that you are not inadmissible based on the public charge ground, if you fall into one of the categories listed below.  See Form I-944 Instructions and Form I-864 Instructions for more information.  Failure to submit a required I-944 or I-864, will result in a denial of your I-485.  Please note that Form I-864W is no longer required, so you do not need to submit a separate Form I-864W with your Form I-485.

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Since always you have to fill out the I-864, or at least since many years ago. But again, the petitioner is the one who has to fill out the I-864.

 

You (the beneficiary) has now to fill out the new I-944.

 

Attach the forms I-864 and I-944 (with supporting document) together with the I-485. 

 

I hope it is clear now.

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17 minutes ago, juancarlos said:

Since always you have to fill out the I-864, or at least since many years ago. But again, the petitioner is the one who has to fill out the I-864.

 

You (the beneficiary) has now to fill out the new I-944.

 

Attach the forms I-864 and I-944 (with supporting document) together with the I-485. 

 

I hope it is clear now.

Thank you Sir. SO I don't have to submit my own I-864? My wife has it already and my Father in Law as the joint sponsor.  Because in the instructions too, it says : 
Who Must Submit Form I-944 and Form I-864
If you are a principal or derivative applicant, you must submit Form I-944 and Form I-864 with your Form I-485 if you are applying under one of the following immigrant categories (unless otherwise stated):
A. Immediate relative (spouse of a U.S. citizen, parent of a U.S. citizen if the U.S. citizen is 21 years of age or older, and unmarried child under 21 years of age of a U.S. citizen); 

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1 hour ago, Nate Karl said:

Thank you Sir. SO I don't have to submit my own I-864? My wife has it already and my Father in Law as the joint sponsor.  Because in the instructions too, it says : 
Who Must Submit Form I-944 and Form I-864
If you are a principal or derivative applicant, you must submit Form I-944 and Form I-864 with your Form I-485 if you are applying under one of the following immigrant categories (unless otherwise stated):
A. Immediate relative (spouse of a U.S. citizen, parent of a U.S. citizen if the U.S. citizen is 21 years of age or older, and unmarried child under 21 years of age of a U.S. citizen); 

That’s correct - it must be submitted with the I-485. However, it’s about the sponsor (and joint sponsor in your case). New is only the I-944.

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2 hours ago, Quarknase said:

That’s correct - it must be submitted with the I-485. However, it’s about the sponsor (and joint sponsor in your case). New is only the I-944.

Oh ok it's clear now. So right now, I have 2 I-864, 1 from my wife, (US CITIZEN) and one from my Father In law(US Citizen). So I don't have to make 1 more for myself?

 

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Filed: F-2A Visa Country: Nepal
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As has been said multiple times, no you don’t fill out an i864 for yourself. The instruction says submit the i864, it isn’t saying you fill it for you and submit.

Spouse:

2015-06-16: I-130 Sent

2015-08-17: I-130 approved

2015-09-23: NVC received file

2015-10-05: NVC assigned Case number, Invoice ID & Beneficiary ID

2016-06-30: DS-261 completed, AOS Fee Paid, WL received

2016-07-05: Received IV invoice, IV Fee Paid

2016-07-06: DS-260 Submitted

2016-07-07: AOS and IV Package mailed

2016-07-08: NVC Scan

2016-08-08: Case Complete

2017-06-30: Interview, approved

2017-07-04: Visa in hand

2017-08-01: Entry to US

.

.

.

.

Myself:

2016-05-10: N-400 Sent

2016-05-16: N-400 NOA1

2016-05-26: Biometrics

2017-01-30: Interview

2017-03-02: Oath Ceremony

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22 hours ago, arken said:

As has been said multiple times, no you don’t fill out an i864 for yourself. The instruction says submit the i864, it isn’t saying you fill it for you and submit.

Ok thank you sir. 

 

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