Covid Vs US Average cause of death

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30 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Like I said last night, the graphic is neat, but very misleading.  Yes, it tells a small part of the story, but as with all statistics, it paints the picture the author wants it to.  

 

Using basic maff, there have been 42,201 US covid deaths.  50 days since 1 March.  By my calculations, that's 844 per day, not 2400.

You sound like snopes. True but misleading. 

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24 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Not everyone who refuses to vaccinate is using ignorance as a motivator.  Sometimes, it's good sense.  For example, when my son was born in 1997, the medical folk tried to force me to give him the live polio virus.  I refused.  Several times in fact.  I was warned that he would never be allowed to go to school without it.  And yet I knew inside myself that the risk of polio infection was greater to my wife and I if we let them do it.  So I kept saying no.

 

Then one day, the powers that be agreed with me, and the OPV was no more.  My kids got the IPV, and I felt good that I had stood my ground.  It was refreshing to visit the doctor's office and have the very same nurse who had threatened and badgered me for over two years and have her say, "you were right.  This time."

Even a blind hog finds an acorn on occasion 😃

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20 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   I've never been a big fan of how they try to do all the vaccines on the same visit. I deferred some for 6 months or a year with my kids (until the next visit). I don't actually think it's a great thing for the immune system to be responding to several immunogens at once. They did get all their recommended vaccines over time though.

I am glad the Army follows your line of thought lol.

 

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14 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Can you prove that Covid-19 is no more dangerous than the influenza we see every year?

The flu has a vaccine. Every year during flu season there is a movement to get everybody to get their "flu shots". Covid-19 has NOTHING. So based on that it is more dangerous than the flu.

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1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

worst-casing it

1)  Criminal who gets arrested walking past the store that he intends to rob

B)  Wrapping a hot dog in something that one can't bite or cut through

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18 minutes ago, Unlockable said:

The flu has a vaccine. Every year during flu season there is a movement to get everybody to get their "flu shots". Covid-19 has NOTHING. So based on that it is more dangerous than the flu.

I think the not anymore dangerous than the flu argument left the room a long time ago

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3 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

You sound like snopes. True but misleading. 

Ok, since you keep pressing me... it's absolutely false.  600-800 does NOT equal 2400.

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2 hours ago, Unlockable said:

The flu has a vaccine. Every year during flu season there is a movement to get everybody to get their "flu shots". Covid-19 has NOTHING. So based on that it is more dangerous than the flu.

Some people don't take the vaccine, and do not get the flu.  Some take the vaccine and do not get the flu.  Some take the vaccine and DO get the flu.  

Thankfully, I am now in the first group, perhaps for the rest of my life.  Only time will tell.

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1 hour ago, Voice of Reason said:

Ok, since you keep pressing me... it's absolutely false.  600-800 does NOT equal 2400.

Where are your numbers coming from. I stoped the chart at a random date. April 8th it said there were 1905 deaths in the USA. That is spot on 

[OriZ 3,157]

10 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Does anyone really ever control a virus once it gets out?

There can be varying degrees of control and mitigation. 

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7 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

A general reminder that "flattening the curve" never was supposed to mean "fewer infections"; it was meant to keep hospital systems from being overwhelmed all at once.

And it is, so where's the problem?

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2 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Some people don't take the vaccine, and do not get the flu.  Some take the vaccine and do not get the flu.  Some take the vaccine and DO get the flu.  

Thankfully, I am now in the first group, perhaps for the rest of my life.  Only time will tell.

The only time I ever got the flu shot, was when the US made me, lol.

 

Never got sick with it in my life, that I'm aware of.

 

That said, I'll def get a covid shot when it's out...so there's that.

Edited April 21, 2020 by OriZ

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2 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

Some people don't take the vaccine, and do not get the flu.  Some take the vaccine and do not get the flu.  Some take the vaccine and DO get the flu.  

Very true. But that can be said for every disease whether there is a Tx or vaccine or not.

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3 minutes ago, OriZ said:

The only time I ever got the flu shot, was when the US made me, lol.

 

Never got sick with it in my life, that I'm aware of.

 

That said, I'll def get a covid shot when it's out...so there's that.

Good on you.  I won't, for several years, when there is some sort of proof that it works, and that the "work" is safer than the alternative.

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2 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Good on you.  I won't, for several years, when there is some sort of proof that it works, and that the "work" is safer than the alternative.

Well, I didn't necessarily mean I'll rush to be one of the first, but once we have something, after a while, yeah I will definitely go for it before I go for the flu.