AP Fact Check: Trump's fact-challenged week over impeachment

[Crazy Cat 39,183]

1 minute ago, abum said:

 

so calling for an impeachment is not legal eh? Show me where impeachment is illegal. funny effort there.

 

someone forgot about what Trump did apparently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories#Donald_Trump

 

 again, i would say, ask yourselves: "Why am i supporting this liar? Why do i tolerate all the lies he made?" instead of "Hey It's the DEMS, they started it!! They did it first!"

Why did anyone support the liar Obama?   

 

 

[abum 324]

15 minutes ago, missileman said:

He is a liar and is attempting to unseat a legally elected POTUS.......just because he didn't like the results of the election....disgraceful.......

 

Agreed about your comment on Trump, SPOT ON! Further reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories#Donald_Trump

[Dashinka 23,199]

9 minutes ago, abum said:

which bit is ad hominem?

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

You made that statement "Like I said, they all lie", please make a case that ALL of the POLITICIANS LIE. Every single one of them.

And while you are at that, make a case WHY people should support the one with the most lie. 

 

So it is still someone lies the most.  As to the ad hominem attack, you stated “and even in this thread, another "not proven statement" is made by a supporter”, seems like an attack to me since you have not proven that President Trump’s lies are any worse than any other politician, or even our previous president.  Like I said, enjoy your hate.

[Dashinka 23,199]

11 minutes ago, abum said:

 

so calling for an impeachment is not legal eh? Show me where impeachment is illegal. funny effort there.

 

 again, i would say, ask yourselves: "Why am i supporting this liar? Why do i tolerate all the lies he made?" instead of "Hey It's the DEMS, they started it!! They did it first!"

Impeachment is a purely political process, and Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff have shown how partisan it can be.  I am fine with their impeachment farce, just as I am fine with President Trump’s response.

[Dashinka 23,199]

Washington Post fact-checker gives Schiff four Pinocchios for whistleblower remark

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/464374-washington-post-fact-checker-gives-schiff-four-pinocchios-for-whistleblower

 

[Dashinka 23,199]

Another example of a politician continuously lying.

 

Video appears to contradict Warren's suggestion that school fired her over pregnancy

https://www.foxnews.com/media/resurfaced-video-warren-fired-pregnant

 

[abum 324]

21 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

So it is still someone lies the most.  As to the ad hominem attack, you stated “and even in this thread, another "not proven statement" is made by a supporter”, seems like an attack to me since you have not proven that President Trump’s lies are any worse than any other politician, or even our previous president.  Like I said, enjoy your hate.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

 

"The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove."

 

 

i think i have missed you making a concrete case with evidence that to prove the following statement

"Like I said, it has nothing to do with who lies the most since they all do", "Like I said, they all lie, "

 

Just because you said it, doesn't make it true, same with what Trump said (and he has been proven to lie by making baseless accusations)

And you need to read and really really understand what "ad-hominem" is about before accusing of someone using it on you.


"you have not proven that President Trump’s lies are any worse than any other politician, or even our previous president" <--- did not say Trump's lies are any worse. Read again what i had said

[Dashinka 23,199]

1 minute ago, abum said:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

 

"The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove."

 

 

i think i have missed you making a concrete case with evidence that to prove the following statement

"Like I said, it has nothing to do with who lies the most since they all do", "Like I said, they all lie, "

 

Just because you said it, doesn't make it true, same with what Trump said (and he has been proven to lie by making baseless accusations)

And you need to read and really really understand what "ad-hominem" is about before accusing of someone using it on you.


"you have not proven that President Trump’s lies are any worse than any other politician, or even our previous president" <--- did not say Trump's lies are any worse. Read again what i had said

I did not say that President Trump’s hyperbole lies were any worse, or any better.  You are the one making the assertion they are worse.

[abum 324]

Kinda hard to have a mature discussion, somehow people can grasp that LIE is bad, and what OATH is about, what PERJURY is, but yet, they will happily support someone who is well known, with established evidence, that lies majority of the time. 

The counter argument is "all of them lies, so i will support the one that lies the most"

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

I did not say that President Trump’s hyperbole lies were any worse, or any better.  You are the one making the assertion they are worse.

do quote me verbatim that where i said that.

[Dashinka 23,199]

Just now, abum said:

Kinda hard to have a mature discussion, somehow people can grasp that LIE is bad, and what OATH is about, what PERJURY is, but yet, they will happily support someone who is well known, with established evidence, that lies majority of the time. 

The counter argument is "all of them lies, so i will support the one that lies the most"

Perjury?  When has President Trump been under oath in a court of law?  By the way, now anyone that supports President Trump is immature.  Nice attack.

[abum 324]

1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Perjury?  When has President Trump been under oath in a court of law?  By the way, now anyone that supports President Trump is immature.  Nice attack.

 When has President Trump been under oath in a court of law? <---- strawman

 

 By the way, now anyone that supports President Trump is immature. <---- strawman

 

  Nice attack. (possible ad-hominem  ) 

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

 

Quote

You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.

 

[Dashinka 23,199]

Just now, abum said:

 When has President Trump been under oath in a court of law? <---- strawman

 

 By the way, now anyone that supports President Trump is immature. <---- strawman

 

  Nice attack. (possible ad-hominem  ) 

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

 

 

Nice obfuscation.  Like I said, enjoy the hate.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

3 minutes ago, abum said:

 When has President Trump been under oath in a court of law? <---- strawman

 

 By the way, now anyone that supports President Trump is immature. <---- strawman

 

  Nice attack. (possible ad-hominem  ) 

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

 

 

Not really... He has to be under oath and our to be accused/charged with perjury

[abum 324]

11 minutes ago, abum said:

Kinda hard to have a mature discussion, somehow people can grasp that LIE is bad, and what OATH is about, what PERJURY is, but yet, they will happily support someone who is well known, with established evidence, that lies majority of the time. 

 

Anything about me saying (the "strawman i was accused of") which @Bill & Katya tried to misrepresent what i wrote above?

3 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Not really... He has to be under oath and our to be accused/charged with perjury

has i said anything about anyone committing perjury? or should be charged with it? do quote me on that and show me how i had said that.

 

 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

14 minutes ago, abum said:

Kinda hard to have a mature discussion, somehow people can grasp that LIE is bad, and what OATH is about, what PERJURY is, but yet, they will happily support someone who is well known, with established evidence, that lies majority of the time. 
 

 

  Welcome to the echo chamber!