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The reason why people receive RFE is not about how much different documents you send. It's mainly because the documents you send don't show a long time history in your marriage. 

 

If you send 1 year bank statements from a marriage that is supposed to be going on for 3 years already, you are not provided sufficient proof of good faith. 

 

How long have you been married?

Can you prove that you have committed to your marriage during all these years?

- 3 or more years of joint tax return 

- 3 or more years of joints documents and ownership including but not limited: joint lease, joint car title,  joint insurance,...etc

 

You can send them 100 different documents with your both names on it. But if all the contracts and transactions have been going on for less than a year,  the agent would not be convinced. 

 

My advice: send them documents that are showing that you've been committed to your marriage since the BEGINNING of it!!!!

For instance,  If your Costco membership was set up only 6 months or 1 year ago,  why did you waited that long to set it up? You've been living with your spouse for 3 and more years now.

Send them 2 to 3 years of Costco joint membership. Not just cards with both names on it.

 

If your joint bank account was open just recently or your bank statements show few transactions per month, that might be interpreted as a lack of joint expenses, lack of joint investment...

Send them 3 years of joint bank statements. 

 

Send them documents that are telling the story of your 3 years of marriage (children bith certificates if any are the most convincing, or 3 years of anything else). That's the main idea. Not thousands of documents just showing your both names. EVERYBODY CAN FRAUD DOCUMENTS WITH BOTH NAMES. IT'S SO EASY TO DO!!!

 

When you are sending your documents to a uscis agent,  imagine that you are telling him the story of your long term marriage. Not how many recent documents have your both names but how CONSISTENT your bills have been going on showing that you guys are a real couple, not faking it through baunch of inconsistent documents. 

 

3 to 5 five consistent documents showing duration of joint life investment are better than 100 documents with less history of joint life commitments

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I only sent one bank statement for the whole time we were together, but I had tax returns, life insurance, etc. So I think they look at the totality of the package you send in. 

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2 hours ago, Malauriea said:

The reason why people receive RFE is not about how much different documents you send. It's mainly because the documents you send don't show a long time history in your marriage. 

 

If you send 1 year bank statements from a marriage that is supposed to be going on for 3 years already, you are not provided sufficient proof of good faith. 

 

How long have you been married?

Can you prove that you have committed to your marriage during all these years?

- 3 or more years of joint tax return 

- 3 or more years of joints documents and ownership including but not limited: joint lease, joint car title,  joint insurance,...etc

 

You can send them 100 different documents with your both names on it. But if all the contracts and transactions have been going on for less than a year,  the agent would not be convinced. 

 

My advice: send them documents that are showing that you've been committed to your marriage since the BEGINNING of it!!!!

For instance,  If your Costco membership was set up only 6 months or 1 year ago,  why did you waited that long to set it up? You've been living with your spouse for 3 and more years now.

Send them 2 to 3 years of Costco joint membership. Not just cards with both names on it.

 

If your joint bank account was open just recently or your bank statements show few transactions per month, that might be interpreted as a lack of joint expenses, lack of joint investment...

Send them 3 years of joint bank statements. 

 

Send them documents that are telling the story of your 3 years of marriage (children bith certificates if any are the most convincing, or 3 years of anything else). That's the main idea. Not thousands of documents just showing your both names. EVERYBODY CAN FRAUD DOCUMENTS WITH BOTH NAMES. IT'S SO EASY TO DO!!!

 

When you are sending your documents to a uscis agent,  imagine that you are telling him the story of your long term marriage. Not how many recent documents have your both names but how CONSISTENT your bills have been going on showing that you guys are a real couple, not faking it through baunch of inconsistent documents. 

 

3 to 5 five consistent documents showing duration of joint life investment are better than 100 documents with less history of joint life commitments

Some of us were separated from our spouse for the 1st year during the CR-1 process.  Therefore, I sent all our joint bank statements from the time my wife arrived.......

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12 minutes ago, missileman said:

Some of us were separated from our spouse for the 1st year during the CR-1 process.  Therefore, I sent all our joint bank statements from the time my wife arrived.......

Yes, you send documents SINCE the beginning of your life together. 

Many people usually think that after 2 years conditional green card,  they should not send the documents they already submitted when they were adjusting their status. 

So they make the mistake to send only all new documents after the adjustment of status. 

 

It's not the same application,  it's not the same officer. Otherwise,  they wouldn't request another biometric.  And, the new IO would want to review everything since the beginning, like you never been into immigration proceedings before. 

People who make that mistake get RFE or interview for the 2nd time. 

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3 hours ago, Malauriea said:

The reason why people receive RFE is not about how much different documents you send. It's mainly because the documents you send don't show a long time history in your marriage. 

 

If you send 1 year bank statements from a marriage that is supposed to be going on for 3 years already, you are not provided sufficient proof of good faith. 

 

How long have you been married?

Can you prove that you have committed to your marriage during all these years?

- 3 or more years of joint tax return 

- 3 or more years of joints documents and ownership including but not limited: joint lease, joint car title,  joint insurance,...etc

 

You can send them 100 different documents with your both names on it. But if all the contracts and transactions have been going on for less than a year,  the agent would not be convinced. 

 

My advice: send them documents that are showing that you've been committed to your marriage since the BEGINNING of it!!!!

For instance,  If your Costco membership was set up only 6 months or 1 year ago,  why did you waited that long to set it up? You've been living with your spouse for 3 and more years now.

Send them 2 to 3 years of Costco joint membership. Not just cards with both names on it.

 

If your joint bank account was open just recently or your bank statements show few transactions per month, that might be interpreted as a lack of joint expenses, lack of joint investment...

Send them 3 years of joint bank statements. 

 

Send them documents that are telling the story of your 3 years of marriage (children bith certificates if any are the most convincing, or 3 years of anything else). That's the main idea. Not thousands of documents just showing your both names. EVERYBODY CAN FRAUD DOCUMENTS WITH BOTH NAMES. IT'S SO EASY TO DO!!!

 

When you are sending your documents to a uscis agent,  imagine that you are telling him the story of your long term marriage. Not how many recent documents have your both names but how CONSISTENT your bills have been going on showing that you guys are a real couple, not faking it through baunch of inconsistent documents. 

 

3 to 5 five consistent documents showing duration of joint life investment are better than 100 documents with less history of joint life commitments

These are all very valid points and here is my situation.

 

We opened a joint savings account with a credit union for the purpose of buying a home. And made a one time deposit with them 3 years ago when we were married, after which no transactions were made. We both maintain separate checking and savings accounts. Does it make sense to include them in my response?

 

I had provided combined Health, Life and car insurance which they seem to have lost. I'll be providing them again.

 

Here are the documents I'll be submitting to prove my 3 years of marriage

  1. Individual bank statements (Checking and Savings) for 3 years.
  2. Joint credit card statement for 1 year (As the card is a year old) - with the bank letter showing my spouse as an authorized user
  3. Joint Health, Life and car insurance for 3 years.
  4. Joint Utility bill for 3 years.
  5. Costco Membership since the time of inception.
  6. Drivers license for both showing same address.
  7. Tax return for 2018 (They already acknowledged receiving tax returns for the previous 2 years).
  8. Marriage license and recent travels of 1 year should this be included?

 

What USCIS has confirmed receipt of

  1. Lease.
  2. Bank Statement (one page with transactions)
  3. Tax Returns
  4. Photos, travel and affidavits

 

Please let me know what you think. Thank you for your help. Greatly appreciate it!

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For credit cards where she is an authorized user, you should download a copy of her credit reports.  They will show her as authorized user, the bank or credit card company name, and the last few digits of the account number.  I also provided photo copies of the credit cards issued in her name, with the first few number blurred out but the last several numbers showing.  

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On 8/26/2019 at 3:18 PM, Jaks said:

Same thing happened to me. I’m re st mutiny the documents they didn’t acknowledge on the RFE. Also sending in a bunch of other new things. I sent so many things and yet they said it wasn’t enough. Regarding the bank account, I sent 4 years worth of statements but most of it is my card being used because my wife lost hers and we both use mines... plus I do most of the financial things got the family... and they had an issue with that. So yeah. But I’m submitting everything else I can think of. Not taking any chances. 

The bank statements I have do not differentiate what card swiped what..? Are you telling me on your statement it tells you what user swiped it? Is this for a debit or credit? Mines debit. 

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On 8/29/2019 at 11:12 PM, PolarPear said:

The bank statements I have do not differentiate what card swiped what..? Are you telling me on your statement it tells you what user swiped it? Is this for a debit or credit? Mines debit. 

It Depends on the bank. My Amex Credit Cards differentiate the user. My debit card, and debit cards in general, don't. Some banks like Chase don't tell which user used the card, other cards like Amex, Barclays, and CapitalOne do. 

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Hi Guys! 

 

So, today - May 1st, 2020,  I received the RFE letter. I wanted to share everything with you and see if you can help me with the preparation of the packet. I want to thank you in advance for your help. You guys are amazing!! 🏆

 

This is what I sent to USCIS on July 12, 2019. Vermont center. 

 

Evidence of our bona fide relationship:
• Copy of our Marriage Certificate
• Copies of our joint tax return for 2017 and 2018
• Copies of our tax transcripts for 2017 and 2018
• Copies of our W2's for 2017 and 2018 showing same address
• Copies of bank statements from our join bank account for the past 24 months
• Copy of our joint account debit cards
• Copy of our apartment renters insurance showing joint policy
• Copy of my spouse's life insurance policy showing my name as the beneficiary
• Copy of our original apartment rental contract showing joint cohabitation
• Copy of our renewed apartment rental contract showing joint cohabitation
• Notarized sworn affidavit letters of support from family and friends
• Letter from the Building Management Office confirming our tenancy and joint cohabitation
• Copies of electricity bills for the past 24 months showing joint account 
• Copy of our Costco joint membership
• Copies of checks that we have paid the apartment rent with from our joint bank account and the landlord's receipts.
• Copy of check that we have paid the IRS from our joint bank account
• Copies of medical records, phone bills, online orders, furniture deliveries, bank correspondence, IRS correspondence, Department of Motor Vehicles, USPS package deliveries, promotional materials and other showing same address
• Copy of an email from a real estate investor in regards to future investments addressed to both of us
• Copy of a reservation confirmation for a United Airlines client event that we attended in New York City showing both of our names
• Copies of Driver's Licence and State ID showing same address
• Copy of our airline tickets from our trip to Chicago, Illinois
• Copy of our hotel reservation confirmation letter in Chicago, Illinois
• Explanation to why we don’t have a joint health care insurance
• Explanation to why we don’t have a joint phone plan
• Pictures together from 2016 to 2019.

 

BELOW IS THE RFE LETTER. They are basically asking for the same things. I don't understand. Compared to other people that I know, who have gotten green cards, I think I have sent more than enough.

Unfortunately I don't have anything additional from what I sent 10 months ago. We don't have a kid, we don't have a car, we don't have a joint phone bill because his company pays for his bill and we don't have joint health insurance because we've been changing jobs frequently and we couldn't be on the same plan. 

Do you think if I send the same documents, but with new dates for the past 10 months it will be sufficient??? AWAITING FOR YOUR ADVICE :)) 

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On 8/26/2019 at 3:27 PM, pbid said:

Hi All,

 

I need help regarding the RFE I received recently for the application(I-751) I submitted in August 2018 to Remove conditions. They mentioned in the letter that the evidence provided is insufficient to prove a good faith marriage.

They go on to mention that they have received the following from me

  1. Lease
  2. Joint Account Bank Statement (with one page of transactions)
  3. Tax returns.
  4. Photos, travel and affidavits

 

And they failed to acknowledge receipt of the following other documents I submitted

  1. Health and life insurance which shows my name and my spouse's name.
  2. Joint Car insurance.
  3. Joint Costco membership card.
  4. Individual credit card statements.

 

As they have mentioned not to submit copies of documents previously submitted. Should I submit the other 4 again? Looks like they lost these documents.

 

Also, In addition to the above documents, I'm going to provide the following financial documents

  1. 6 months of Joint Credit Card Statements (Shows only my name in the statement, but my spouse is on it as well).
  2. Individual, Bank Statements (Checking and Savings) for a duration of 2 years showing the same Home address.
  3. Shared Utility Bill (Car Parking) for a duration of 2 years showing both names.

 

Do I submit these documents the same way I submitted my application packet?

 

Thanks for reading! Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

 

 

Did they approve you? How long did you wait after the rfe? THANK YOU!

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