Biden mistakes New Hampshire for Vermont during campaign stop

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3 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

Low information voters might swing for anyone.

I wouldn't categorize anyone voting for Trump over the crazy ideas coming out of the Democrat party as low information voters.

Edited August 26, 2019 by missileman

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4 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Trump is actually much more moderate than anyone on the Democrat side.  Idealize people don’t see it or don’t want to see it due to outright hatred of the man, but there are a lot of actual Liberals that I know that would vote for him over anyone, even Biden, from the other side.

I read an article the other day by a liberal who said that although he thinks Trump is a racist, he will vote for Trump vs the crazies on the left.......

 

 

Edited August 26, 2019 by missileman

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2 minutes ago, missileman said:

I wouldn't categorize anyone voting for Trump over the crazy ideas coming out of the Democrat party as low information voters.

If you listen to, and believe the left wing biased media, anyone who voted for President Trump was/is uneducated dolts, or better yet, deplorables.

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1 minute ago, missileman said:

I read an article the other day by a liberal who said that although he thinks Trump is a racist, he will vote for Trump vs the crazies on the left.......

 

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/opinion/2019/08/19/democrats-racism-message-may-swing-my-vote-president-trump/2029081001/

Loved the part about his reluctance to condemn white nationalists.  It is a narrative that continues to be pushed by the leftist media.

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1 minute ago, missileman said:

I wouldn't categorize anyone voting for Trump over the crazy ideas coming out of the Democrat party as low information voters.

 

    You are entitled to your opinion as we all are. Trump's support doesn't seem to be all that high among independents or liberals. Trump supporters may be willing to look past certain things, but most others are not. As far as crazy ideas, sorry, but not everything Trump says gives the impression that he is playing with a full deck himself. If it comes down to a pair of cuckoos, it's a wash.

 

  At any rate, for me it's not about 4 years of Trump or Joe or who ever else. It's about the way they are trying to influence the next 40 years. It's been a pure power play by McConnell and it should become a bigger issue than Trump vs Biden for those who are actually paying attention beyond the simple partisan flame wars.

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2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Loved the part about his reluctance to condemn white nationalists.  It is a narrative that continues to be pushed by the leftist media.

I watch a lot of Tim Pool on youtube........the guy is a left leaning moderate, but he sees right through the media's game.  

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8 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Trump is actually much more moderate than anyone on the Democrat side.  Idealize people don’t see it or don’t want to see it due to outright hatred of the man, but there are a lot of actual Liberals that I know that would vote for him over anyone, even Biden, from the other side.

 

   There are a lot of conservatives I know who are not voting for him next time around. As I said, if the economy tanks, it's not going to get better for Trump. That's why he's already throwing around ideas like cutting payroll tax. 

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4 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

Trump's support doesn't seem to be all that high among independents or liberals.

Really?  This is from a true moderate.

 

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7 minutes ago, missileman said:

I watch a lot of Tim Pool on youtube........the guy is a left leaning moderate, but he sees right through the media's game.  

Piers Morgan had an interesting interview with Ben Shapiro.

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/08/20/piers_morgan_the_left_have_become_unbearable.html

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7 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   There are a lot of conservatives I know who are not voting for him next time around. As I said, if the economy tanks, it's not going to get better for Trump. That's why he's already throwing around ideas like cutting payroll tax. 

Sure, that is the thing about elections, people vote their minds and don’t always fall into specific identity categories.

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There's no way Trump can ever get elected.

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1 minute ago, missileman said:

Really?  This is from a true moderate.

 

 

   As I said, everyone is entitled to their opinion. This guy speaks for himself, and he is saying the things you want to hear. I'm sure there are equivalent reactions on the other side. Of note, several of Trumps former associates are coming out with opinions that he is unstable and not fit to be president. Are you listing to what they have to say?

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Just now, Steeleballz said:

 

   As I said, everyone is entitled to their opinion. This guy speaks for himself, and he is saying the things you want to hear. I'm sure there are equivalent reactions on the other side. Of note, several of Trumps former associates are coming out with opinions that he is unstable and not fit to be president. Are you listing to what they have to say?

Tim Pool does an enormous amount of research.......He backs up his statements with data.  He also shows data in some of his videos which show Trump is more popular than the media portrays...... 

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4 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Sure, that is the thing about elections, people vote their minds and don’t always fall into specific identity categories.

 

  Of course they do. I recall many (including you) posting that 2016 was extremely significant for conservatives because of the open seat on the SC. Some people were saying it wasn't really about Trump. Why do you think it won't be an issue next time? Liberals are feeling the same way right now. Obviously I don't like Trump. He may well be moderate. He may have run as a Republican or a Democrat. I don't like him regardless. However, it's not just about Trump.

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1 hour ago, missileman said:

I wouldn't categorize anyone voting for Trump over the crazy ideas coming out of the Democrat party as low information voters.

Seriously the only thing I have seen come out of the Democratic candidates is

 

Open Borders 

Free Stuff

Impeach Trump 

1 hour ago, missileman said:

Tim Pool does an enormous amount of research.......He backs up his statements with data.  He also shows data in some of his videos which show Trump is more popular than the media portrays...... 

There is over a 90% chance he will not win.. Oh wait that was last time