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Has anyone had their same-sex K-1 visa application approved at the Islamabad Embassy? If so, could you please advise as to the experience and specifics? And discuss any tricky issues / concerns regarding the same-sex application. 

We have met 2ce in one year and have no previous marriages (or divorces) or children. I am also considering being present for the interview. 

 

Finally, we are American / Pakistani, does it make a difference if the couple is Pakistani-American / Pakistani?

 

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You met twice, for how long and where?


“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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We've meet for over 5 weeks in a 3rd country. I might add same-sex partners do not have the option of the C-1 route, especially since visas to marriage-friendly countries for average Pakistanis are nearly impossible; we feel like a CO should know that and be aware of that.

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CR 1?


“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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1 hour ago, steveblue said:

especially since visas to marriage-friendly countries for average Pakistanis are nearly impossible; we feel like a CO should know that and be aware of that.

Do believe it is more difficult to marry anywhere outside Pakistan than to obtain a K-1 visa? What would you do if the K-1 visa were to be denied?

 

To be clear, I'm not suggesting CR-1 is the only possible route, but it is usually better suited for cases dealing with high fraud embassies. There is no relief for a refused K-1 visa - it is refused and then you start over from scratch. A refused CR-1 can be reaffirmed by USCIS.


Timelines:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago

9/27/17: received by USCIS

10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received

10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received

10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update)

1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed

1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received

1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice

10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice

10/25/18: Formal approval

10/31/18: Green card received

 

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/17: sent

12/14/17: NOA1 hard copy received

3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification)

3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved!

3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received

4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy

4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy

4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 

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I assume the issue is getting a visa in Pakistan to a Country that allows same sex weddings.


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3 hours ago, steveblue said:

Has anyone had their same-sex K-1 visa application approved at the Islamabad Embassy? If so, could you please advise as to the experience and specifics? And discuss any tricky issues / concerns regarding the same-sex application. 

We have met 2ce in one year and have no previous marriages (or divorces) or children. I am also considering being present for the interview. 

 

Finally, we are American / Pakistani, does it make a difference if the couple is Pakistani-American / Pakistani?

 

Hi, I’m looking for people who actually have experience dealing with this issue. Not for conjecture. I appreciate everyone’s interest but conjecture is not very helpful.

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Country-specific thread is moved from the K-1 Process forum to the Asia/South regional forum.


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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On 5/3/2019 at 10:15 PM, steveblue said:

Hi, I’m looking for people who actually have experience dealing with this issue. Not for conjecture. I appreciate everyone’s interest but conjecture is not very helpful.

As you can imagine, this is not common at all through the Islamabad Embassy

I have been on this forum for quite a few years now and have never seen another same sex couple post, so I am not sure how much feedback if any you will get that is specific to your case

 

that said the best you can do is what any couple going through ISB does, prepare, collect everything, fill out your paperwork completely and provide a complete application, make sure you have well documented your relationship and prepare for hurdles that may come your way

 

wishing you the best of luck!!

 

Editing to add, I would always suggest the petitioner attend the interview, although it could be a bit complicated for OP to get a visa to visit Pakistan

Edited by Kastrs

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Married December 19, 2014

I-130 Petition sent January 14, 2015
NOA1 date January 20, 2015 (NSC)

NOA2 date May 28, 2015 :dance::dance::dance:

Mailed to NVC June 4, 2015

NVC Received June 10, 2015

NVC Case Number Assigned June 23, 2015

NVC AoS Invoice via Mail June 24, 2015

NVC Selected Agent Over Phone June 30, 2015 (Unable to logon to CEAC)

NVC IV Invoice via email received July 1, 2015

NVC AoS/IV Package Mailed July 2, 2015

NVC AoS & IV Fee Paid Online (CEAC is working) July 6. 2015

NVC Document Scan Date July 6, 2015

NCV AoS & IV Fee marked as paid in CEAC July, 7 2015

NVC DS 260 Completed July 8, 2015

NVC CC July 30, 2015 (24 days after scan date, about 2 months post NOA2)

Interview Scheduled on August 26, 2015

Interview P4 Email Received August 27, 2015

Medical in Islamabad September 2, 2015

Interview Date September 22, 2015 CANCELLED (Embassy is Over scheduled) :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Interview Scheduled on September 10, 2015

Interview Date October 14, 2015 APPROVED

Visa Issued October 16, 2015, 9 months start to finish

POE JFK October 26, 2015

GC in Hand Jan 8, 2016

RoC I-751 NOA1 August 31, 2017 (Vermont Service Center)

Biometrics October 2, 2017

I551 Stamp in Passport August 2, 2018

18 Month Extension Letter August 3, 2018

Applied for Naturalization N-400 Online July 30, 2018

Biometrics August 23, 2018

10 year GC is in production September 17, 2018

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Thank you for your advice. You’re right it’s not the most common scenario, although it’s conceivable people haven’t written about it due to social taboos. We are proceeding as you’ve suggested however if anyone does have first-hand experience it would be very much appreciated. Thank you for your good wishes.

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I do have perhaps a basic question. Or most of the consular officers who interview applicants American or are they Pakistani? We would do the interview in English I don’t know if that makes any difference?

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On 5/3/2019 at 10:15 PM, steveblue said:

Hi, I’m looking for people who actually have experience dealing with this issue. Not for conjecture. I appreciate everyone’s interest but conjecture is not very helpful.

Hi Steve,

One thing you need to know, the consulate will only consider what was presented in your original application nothing more.  They don't care about anything that has happened since then.  I had signed affidavits from both families testifying my relationship was real ready for the interview, and they totally scrubbed their nose.  Have all your question's answers ready and the short list of requested documents on hand.  I went for our interview, and it didn't make any difference.  They will already be prepared to make the decision their going to make.  

 

Good luck

Cary & Basit

 

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9 minutes ago, steveblue said:

I do have perhaps a basic question. Or most of the consular officers who interview applicants American or are they Pakistani? We would do the interview in English I don’t know if that makes any difference?

The people performing the interview are USC

 

I would say an interview in English makes a difference in cases where the petitioner is American/does not speak Urdu as it demonstrates that you and your petitioner can clearly communicate with each other


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Married December 19, 2014

I-130 Petition sent January 14, 2015
NOA1 date January 20, 2015 (NSC)

NOA2 date May 28, 2015 :dance::dance::dance:

Mailed to NVC June 4, 2015

NVC Received June 10, 2015

NVC Case Number Assigned June 23, 2015

NVC AoS Invoice via Mail June 24, 2015

NVC Selected Agent Over Phone June 30, 2015 (Unable to logon to CEAC)

NVC IV Invoice via email received July 1, 2015

NVC AoS/IV Package Mailed July 2, 2015

NVC AoS & IV Fee Paid Online (CEAC is working) July 6. 2015

NVC Document Scan Date July 6, 2015

NCV AoS & IV Fee marked as paid in CEAC July, 7 2015

NVC DS 260 Completed July 8, 2015

NVC CC July 30, 2015 (24 days after scan date, about 2 months post NOA2)

Interview Scheduled on August 26, 2015

Interview P4 Email Received August 27, 2015

Medical in Islamabad September 2, 2015

Interview Date September 22, 2015 CANCELLED (Embassy is Over scheduled) :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Interview Scheduled on September 10, 2015

Interview Date October 14, 2015 APPROVED

Visa Issued October 16, 2015, 9 months start to finish

POE JFK October 26, 2015

GC in Hand Jan 8, 2016

RoC I-751 NOA1 August 31, 2017 (Vermont Service Center)

Biometrics October 2, 2017

I551 Stamp in Passport August 2, 2018

18 Month Extension Letter August 3, 2018

Applied for Naturalization N-400 Online July 30, 2018

Biometrics August 23, 2018

10 year GC is in production September 17, 2018

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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8 minutes ago, Pakyman said:

Hi Steve,

One thing you need to know, the consulate will only consider what was presented in your original application nothing more.  They don't care about anything that has happened since then.  I had signed affidavits from both families testifying my relationship was real ready for the interview, and they totally scrubbed their nose.  Have all your question's answers ready and the short list of requested documents on hand.  I went for our interview, and it didn't make any difference.  They will already be prepared to make the decision their going to make.  

 

Good luck

Cary & Basit

 

not entirely true, I side-loaded my petition while at the NVC, and the information I sent was reviewed 

as for presenting additional at the interview, that is the time they do not want to see anything additional unless asked


Spoiler

 

Married December 19, 2014

I-130 Petition sent January 14, 2015
NOA1 date January 20, 2015 (NSC)

NOA2 date May 28, 2015 :dance::dance::dance:

Mailed to NVC June 4, 2015

NVC Received June 10, 2015

NVC Case Number Assigned June 23, 2015

NVC AoS Invoice via Mail June 24, 2015

NVC Selected Agent Over Phone June 30, 2015 (Unable to logon to CEAC)

NVC IV Invoice via email received July 1, 2015

NVC AoS/IV Package Mailed July 2, 2015

NVC AoS & IV Fee Paid Online (CEAC is working) July 6. 2015

NVC Document Scan Date July 6, 2015

NCV AoS & IV Fee marked as paid in CEAC July, 7 2015

NVC DS 260 Completed July 8, 2015

NVC CC July 30, 2015 (24 days after scan date, about 2 months post NOA2)

Interview Scheduled on August 26, 2015

Interview P4 Email Received August 27, 2015

Medical in Islamabad September 2, 2015

Interview Date September 22, 2015 CANCELLED (Embassy is Over scheduled) :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Interview Scheduled on September 10, 2015

Interview Date October 14, 2015 APPROVED

Visa Issued October 16, 2015, 9 months start to finish

POE JFK October 26, 2015

GC in Hand Jan 8, 2016

RoC I-751 NOA1 August 31, 2017 (Vermont Service Center)

Biometrics October 2, 2017

I551 Stamp in Passport August 2, 2018

18 Month Extension Letter August 3, 2018

Applied for Naturalization N-400 Online July 30, 2018

Biometrics August 23, 2018

10 year GC is in production September 17, 2018

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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