Feminism and the law of unintended consequences.

[Boiler 43,430]

Single women are paying thousands to freeze their eggs – but at what cost?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/mar/23/single-women-are-paying-thousands-to-freeze-their-eggs-but-at-what-cost

 

This struck a memory as a few years back I remember being told in a conversation I certainly never started with a lady c50? about how she still intended to have children. Now I am no expert of the subject and there are some subjects I just do not want to go into but always understood that it can get tricky the later you leave it and by that age you have a better chance of the lottery.

 

Anyway here we have have a classic case of Reality and Biology can not be overcome by Social Justice.

 

 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

9 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Single women are paying thousands to freeze their eggs – but at what cost?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/mar/23/single-women-are-paying-thousands-to-freeze-their-eggs-but-at-what-cost

 

This struck a memory as a few years back I remember being told in a conversation I certainly never started with a lady c50? about how she still intended to have children. Now I am no expert of the subject and there are some subjects I just do not want to go into but always understood that it can get tricky the later you leave it and by that age you have a better chance of the lottery.

 

Anyway here we have have a classic case of Reality and Biology can not be overcome by Social Justice.

 

 

 

    Less studied, but the reality is far more risk of genetic issues can be attributed to the age of the father. 

[Boiler 43,430]

3 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Less studied, but the reality is far more risk of genetic issues can be attributed to the age of the father. 

Does sound logical, not everything gets better with age.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

45 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Less studied, but the reality is far more risk of genetic issues can be attributed to the age of the father. 

That i never heard. 

[Neonred 3,446]

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Less studied, but the reality is far more risk of genetic issues can be attributed to the age of the father. 

Ever heard of Strom Thurmond?  LOL

[Steeleballz 7,550]

20 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

That i never heard. 

 

   In a nutshell, women are born with all the eggs they will ever have. Time and environmental factors can cause deterioration and mutation in any given egg. Men are constantly producing sperm, so with time and just the sheer number of mitotic divisions, there is a higher risk that a given chromosomal error or epigenetic mutation could occur, plus the additional risk for men that such mutation could persist in subsequent cell lines.   

[Steeleballz 7,550]

8 minutes ago, Neonred said:

Ever heard of Strom Thurmond?  LOL

 

  Sure, higher risk is just that. For X and Y linked genetic changes, it's not absolute by any means. People in there 20's have lower risk, but still happens to them. Age of either parent tends to increase risks but even father's in their 70's and 80's have children without any genetic issues.  

 

  

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Less studied, but the reality is far more risk of genetic issues can be attributed to the age of the father. 

I have never heard of this either. I heard it is primarily due to age of the woman

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I have never heard of this either. I heard it is primarily due to age of the woman

 

   There is a lot more research based on the woman's age, so a lot more is known. It also varies depending on the specific genetic mutation. They tend to focus a lot on downs syndrome when talking about the age of the mother and that is one specific case where the mothers age may be of more risk than the fathers. Just the biology behind how it occurs, and the ages that the majority of people tend to have children.

 

   Generally the research is looking at people in their mid 30's to late 40's and even with downs syndrome, there is a point where it appears there may be relatively equal risk from both parents. If you start looking at ages greater than that, you are really only looking at the male, and there really is not a whole lot of research available. I think you could extrapolate the risk though. It's not going to decrease as we get older. 

 

   Just the way genetic and molecular testing has developed, I do think it's something we'll start hearing more about in the future. 

   

 

  

[Boiler 43,430]

I always wondered if the new norm was a factor in what seems to be more allergies etc. I do not remember all these problems in my younger days.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I always wondered if the new norm was a factor in what seems to be more allergies etc. I do not remember all these problems in my younger days.

 

  Certainly people are waiting longer to have kids so it could be an issue. I wouldn't rule out environmental factors though. Half the ingredients listed on food labels would not have been recognizable when I was younger. Who knows what all that contributes in the end. 

[Boiler 43,430]

Also a factor, talking about which time to go get a beer. One of those welcome to America is how long bread, milk etc lasts.

[Neonred 3,446]

And fortunately some of us no longer have to worry about the quality of our male reproductive cells...

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

14 minutes ago, Neonred said:

And fortunately some of us no longer have to worry about the quality of our male reproductive cells...

I use to obsess about weed, alcohol and sex.

 

Now its blood sugar,  cholesterol.  And blood pressure. 

 

The other 3 are not even on the radar 

[TBoneTX 43,057]

12 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

Less studied, but the reality is far more risk of genetic issues can be attributed to the age of the father. 

Had heard this.  Study results should be interesting to many.

10 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

mitotic divisions [...] chromosomal error [...] epigenetic mutation

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