WATCH: Rep AOC gets Michael Cohen to admit under oath that Trump committed insurance and tax fraud.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, Tahoma said:

Have you actually listened to her?  She is a progressive in the mold of Bernie Sanders.  If progressive taxation, free college, and becoming serious about climate change makes her a socialist/communist, then sign me up!

Consider yourself signed up!  Highly recommend moving to and living in Venezuela for one year to get all the training you will require.

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2 hours ago, Tahoma said:

Have you actually listened to her?  She is a progressive in the mold of Bernie Sanders.  If progressive taxation, free college, and becoming serious about climate change makes her a socialist/communist, then sign me up!

Isn’t Bernie Sanders a self professed communist or at least a diehard socialist?  I have read the Democratic Socialist of America’s Q/A section and though they do not come out an promote communism directly, reading between the lines, it is clear they are promoting government control of economic capital.  Heck AOC’s Green New Deal is simply a big power grab by government so that those that know better can control the populace.  Now occasionally they tout Scandavia as a socialist success, but those countries are social democracies and if you look at Sweden you see a lot of free choice items such as schools of choice, etc. and they are clear that the only way they can pay for all their social safety nets is by taxing the middle class.  Bernie and AOC tout complete socialism/communism along with class warfare of the evil rich as a means to pay for it.  Well, the rich collectively do not have enough money to pay for their wish list, and I would rather not turn into a Venezuela.  Luckily, we have a Constitution that the Founding Father’s made difficult to change, so we don’t have much to fear from anyone occupying the WH, but a socialist can still do a lot of economic damage if in power.

 

What i don’t understand is why the Democrat Party is swinging so far to the Left into the socialist/communist realm, and how those views are considered so progressive when all the evidence shows they are economically unsustainable and often lead to despotic leadership and chaos.  The other thing I don’t understand is that if we do get a lot more government control of our daily lives, what happens when a conservative is elected?

Edited March 7, 2019 by Bill & Katya

[jg121783 3,907]

21 hours ago, Tahoma said:

The logical fallacy here is the idea that Mueller and the SDNY prosecutors either didn't watch Cohen's recent testimony or, they did watch it and they simply don't feel like prosecuting him for lying to Congress again. Of course, conveniently ignored by the right is the certainty that Mueller and the SDNY have corroborating evidence of Trump's crimes.

 

I especially got a good chuckle seeing the right wing calling Cohen a liar, all in defense of a pathological liar!

I get a good chuckle seeing the left defend the testimony of a convicted liar who is hoping for a plea deal in order to accuse the president without any evidence whatsoever of lying.

 

20 hours ago, Tahoma said:

On the contrary, there is a wealth of information out there.  You don't even need a book.  

 

Look at Social Security and Medicare.  Or, better yet, look at how this country socializes costs and privatizes benefits.  Trump's New York golf course is a good example of that.  Look at the 2009 bailout of Wall Street, another good example.

Both of which are socialist failures. I guess the left's idea of a socialist utopia is overpriced rationed healthcare and the alpo meal plan for retirees living on social security.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

27 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

I get a good chuckle seeing the left defend the testimony of a convicted liar who is hoping for a plea deal in order to accuse the president without any evidence whatsoever of lying.

 

Both of which are socialist failures. I guess the left's idea of a socialist utopia is overpriced rationed healthcare and the alpo meal plan for retirees living on social security.

Do NOT talk like that!  I am only a few short years away from my SSB...

[jg121783 3,907]

2 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

Do NOT talk like that!  I am only a few short years away from my SSB...

I feel bad for you if that's all you have to retire on. I hope you have an actual retirement plan.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,315]

15 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

I feel bad for you if that's all you have to retire on. I hope you have an actual retirement plan.

ALFKAD is mega wealthy and has super model women following him around exotic islands daily.

 

dont let him fool you

[jg121783 3,907]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

ALFKAD is mega wealthy and has super model women following him around exotic islands daily.

 

dont let him fool you

What no private jet? I still feel sorry for him in that case.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

17 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

What no private jet? I still feel sorry for him in that case.

Thank you.  The struggle is real, yo.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 hours ago, jg121783 said:

I feel bad for you if that's all you have to retire on. I hope you have an actual retirement plan.

No, SSB is not my retirement plan at all.  It's my dining out money, or SCUBA tank refill money in case I run out of my monthly allowance.

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On ‎3‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 2:05 PM, ALFKAD said:

Consider yourself signed up!  Highly recommend moving to and living in Venezuela for one year to get all the training you will require.

Snap

[Póg mo 1,749]

On 3/7/2019 at 2:05 PM, ALFKAD said:

Consider yourself signed up!  Highly recommend moving to and living in Venezuela for one year to get all the training you will require.

So he can view the effects of US sanctions first hand? "Socialism doesn't work, and to make sure, let's make sure to do everything we can to destroy any place that doesn't get in line, with our way of thinking". 

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10 minutes ago, Póg mo said:

So he can view the effects of US sanctions first hand? "Socialism doesn't work, and to make sure, let's make sure to do everything we can to destroy any place that doesn't get in line, with our way of thinking". 

Are claiming in the absence of US Intervention Maduro would be successful? You are delusional!

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1 hour ago, Randyandyuni said:

Are claiming in the absence of US Intervention Maduro would be successful? You are delusional!

I never said anything of the sort. I am pretty sure calling someone delusional is against the terms of service.

[jg121783 3,907]

2 hours ago, Póg mo said:

So he can view the effects of US sanctions first hand? "Socialism doesn't work, and to make sure, let's make sure to do everything we can to destroy any place that doesn't get in line, with our way of thinking". 

Sanctions are not what caused the problems in Venezuela. A socialist economy was the cause. Venezuela has a vast amount of natural resources and if they took advantage of that in a smart way sanctions would be irrelevant. Venezuela used to be a prosperous nation when they had a free market.

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35 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Sanctions are not what caused the problems in Venezuela. A socialist economy was the cause. Venezuela has a vast amount of natural resources and if they took advantage of that in a smart way sanctions would be irrelevant. Venezuela used to be a prosperous nation when they had a free market.

I agree, Venezuela should have set more money aside during good times, but let's face it. So could the United States, instead of handing out tax cuts, etc. However, kicking a country when it is down, doesn't seem to be helping matters. Lying about the legitimaticy of a government sure doesn't help either.