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6 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

what's the title of the book? or are you just undercutting everyone's intelligence with your own? or will any book do? It is Dr. Seuss' birthday this week 

I don't need to undercut everyone's intelligence because they are doing a good job of it on their own.

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17 minutes ago, Tahoma said:

I don't need to undercut everyone's intelligence because they are doing a good job of it on their own.

you are indeed, so there is no book to pick up for proof of our social democracy? 

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54 minutes ago, Tahoma said:

Anyone who thinks we don't live in a socialist democracy needs to pick up a book.

As I have said many many times, there is a big difference between social democracy and democratic socialism.  Having social safety nets is one thing, having the government control the means of production and the economy through central planning is completely different.

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2 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

you are indeed, so there is no book to pick up for proof of our social democracy? 

On the contrary, there is a wealth of information out there.  You don't even need a book.  

 

Look at Social Security and Medicare.  Or, better yet, look at how this country socializes costs and privatizes benefits.  Trump's New York golf course is a good example of that.  Look at the 2009 bailout of Wall Street, another good example.

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

As I have said many many times, there is a big difference between social democracy and democratic socialism.  Having social safety nets is one thing, having the government control the means of production and the economy through central planning is completely different.

not when you are playing buzzword bingo

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2 minutes ago, Tahoma said:

On the contrary, there is a wealth of information out there.  You don't even need a book.  

 

Look at Social Security and Medicare.  Or, better yet, look at how this country socializes costs and privatizes benefits.  Trump's New York golf course is a good example of that.  Look at the 2009 bailout of Wall Street, another good example.

done for the commonwealth is not socialism, don't confuse common infrastructure, group life insurance and economic stimulus for socialism, perhaps a book is needed, might want to try a dictionary. Do not know anything about Trumps New York golf course, so I cannot contribute anything of substance 

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28 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

As I have said many many times, there is a big difference between social democracy and democratic socialism.  Having social safety nets is one thing, having the government control the means of production and the economy through central planning is completely different.

You're spot on.  I misspoke.  I meant to say social democracy.  Now, back to the subject.  What makes you think AOC is a socialist/communist?

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25 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

done for the commonwealth is not socialism, don't confuse common infrastructure, group life insurance and economic stimulus for socialism, perhaps a book is needed, might want to try a dictionary. Do not know anything about Trumps New York golf course, so I cannot contribute anything of substance 

Do you think AOC is a socialist/communist?  If so, what makes you think that?

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6 minutes ago, Tahoma said:

You're spot on.  I misspoke.  I meant to say social democracy.  Now, back to the subject.  What makes you think AOC is a socialist/communist?

I don't need to think she is a democratic socialist, she applies the label to herself 

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8 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

I don't need to think she is a democratic socialist, she applies the label to herself 

OK, you agree that A OF is not a socialist/communist.  However, she doesn't label herself as simply a democratic socialist.  She labels herself as a democratic socialist who believes in capitalism.

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1 minute ago, Tahoma said:

OK, you agree that A OF is not a socialist/communist.  However, she doesn't label herself as simply a democratic socialist.  She labels herself as a democratic socialist who believes in capitalism.

I did not agree or disagree, your inferred that from my response 

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32 minutes ago, Tahoma said:

You're spot on.  I misspoke.  I meant to say social democracy.  Now, back to the subject.  What makes you think AOC is a socialist/communist?

Hmm, from the words she speaks, or are we supposed to ignore her "Green New Deal" and this:

 

Ocasio-Cortez is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez

 

Her plan would require governmental control of the economic capital in order to show some semblance of actually paying for it.

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4 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Hmm, from the words she speaks, or are we supposed to ignore her "Green New Deal" and this:

 

Ocasio-Cortez is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez

 

Her plan would require governmental control of the economic capital in order to show some semblance of actually paying for it.

Have you actually listened to her?  She is a progressive in the mold of Bernie Sanders.  If progressive taxation, free college, and becoming serious about climate change makes her a socialist/communist, then sign me up!

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Bernie is a socialist, I see progressive as new/better not a retreaded bald tire 

 

Progressive taxation? Penalizing someone because they make too much? Rewarding someone for not making enough? Counter-Intuitive not progressive 

Free College for all? You do realize some people are not suited nor want to go to college?

Climate Change maybe, but sensibly not via Buck Rogers transformation ,,

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3 hours ago, Tahoma said:

Anyone who thinks we don't live in a socialist democracy needs to pick up a book.