Republican congressional candidate says new election warranted in NC

[jg121783 3,907]

15 hours ago, elmcitymaven said:

I think there are a couple of good reasons. First, it does democracy good to do democracy well. That means an opportunity to run an election as it should be run -- free, fair and above reproach. If any election is likely this year (or next) to be watched carefully to ensure it hews to propriety, it's this one. Both sides have a lot riding on it. 

 

Second, because the election was tainted, we will never know what the true tally was. Maybe Harris would have won had the election been fair, maybe not. We can't know. The only way to know is to run it again. Maybe Harris will win, and if he does, shame on those who would put party over propriety. But I would not take away their right to have their values reflected just because I think their reasoning is asinine. 

What does democracy have to do with anything? The United States is not a democracy and never was. We are a constitutional republic. The founders were totally against the idea of pure democracy with good reason.

[elmcitymaven 9,711]

37 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

What does democracy have to do with anything? The United States is not a democracy and never was. We are a constitutional republic. The founders were totally against the idea of pure democracy with good reason.

*sigh* Let's parse what that brief sentence means, because, as always, context is key.

 

"Democracy" here does not mean "direct democracy." "Democracy" here is a metonym for the democratic process. The act of voting by citizens is part of the democratic process, though of course one does not have to have democracy to have voting by citizenry. But in this country, voting is the most obvious manifestation of the citizen's involvement in the democratic process. It does the democratic process good to do the democratic process well. Clearer? 

 

Putting aside the fact that you're stuffing words into my mouth that I called America a pure democracy (which I did not), America is not merely a constitutional republic. We are also a representative democracy. Ask my main man, Eugene Volokh, well-known librul fool. We do not have our republican form of government without representative democracy. 

 

It really isn't any more complicated than that. I think Ronald Reagan said it well:

 

 

[jg121783 3,907]

1 hour ago, elmcitymaven said:

*sigh* Let's parse what that brief sentence means, because, as always, context is key.

 

"Democracy" here does not mean "direct democracy." "Democracy" here is a metonym for the democratic process. The act of voting by citizens is part of the democratic process, though of course one does not have to have democracy to have voting by citizenry. But in this country, voting is the most obvious manifestation of the citizen's involvement in the democratic process. It does the democratic process good to do the democratic process well. Clearer? 

 

Putting aside the fact that you're stuffing words into my mouth that I called America a pure democracy (which I did not), America is not merely a constitutional republic. We are also a representative democracy. Ask my main man, Eugene Volokh, well-known librul fool. We do not have our republican form of government without representative democracy. 

 

It really isn't any more complicated than that. I think Ronald Reagan said it well:

 

 

I will admit I am knit picking a little here and I see you understand my overall point but I'm tired of seeing people who truly believe the US is a democracy. To clarify when I said the founders opposed pure democracy I did not mean to imply that you support it.

[Ban Hammer 12,835]

1 hour ago, jg121783 said:

I will admit I am knit picking a little here and I see you understand my overall point but I'm tired of seeing people who truly believe the US is a democracy. To clarify when I said the founders opposed pure democracy I did not mean to imply that you support it.

allow me to nit pick by pointing out the proper spelling of that term......  

[jg121783 3,907]

4 hours ago, Ban Hammer said:

allow me to nit pick by pointing out the proper spelling of that term......  

Spell check got me this time.

[Ban Hammer 12,835]

46 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Spell check got me this time.

nature boy already used that excuse.

[TBoneTX 43,042]

A nit is a louse egg.  Seriously.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

A nit is a louse egg.  Seriously.

And that's why it's called nit-picking.  Picking at tiny things.

[Dashinka 23,234]

9 hours ago, jg121783 said:

Spell check got me this time.

The NB syndrome!