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Trying to decide how to fill out the Affidavit of Support I-864.  I have sufficient current income, but my last three years of tax returns are essentially zero (lived abroad, filed in the US, under the $100k limit).  Will I be OK to file individually or is the Embassy likely to request a joint sponsor?

 

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17 minutes ago, MattAndOana said:

Trying to decide how to fill out the Affidavit of Support I-864.  I have sufficient current income, but my last three years of tax returns are essentially zero (lived abroad, filed in the US, under the $100k limit).  Will I be OK to file individually or is the Embassy likely to request a joint sponsor?

 

TIA

It will be the decision of the interviewing CO. They will assess current income looking for stability and ongoing sufficiency etc... if you wanted to play it safe, file your 1864 but get a joint sponsor lined up, have all  the paperwork filled out with all documents in hand.. and hold it in case you get an RFE 

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19 minutes ago, MattAndOana said:

Trying to decide how to fill out the Affidavit of Support I-864.  I have sufficient current income, but my last three years of tax returns are essentially zero (lived abroad, filed in the US, under the $100k limit).  Will I be OK to file individually or is the Embassy likely to request a joint sponsor?

 

TIA

 

They will see your reported income on your tax return, including the excluded income.  Excluding it for tax purposes does not make it disappear.

 

Your problem might be bigger.  Unless you can show that your income will continue from the same job with the same company they credit you with (zero) income for affidavit purposes no matter what you made or are making overseas.  Leaving you with the options of self-sponsoring on (liquid) assets or getting a co-sponsor.

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5 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

 

They will see your reported income on your tax return, including the excluded income.  Excluding it for tax purposes does not make it disappear.

 

Your problem might be bigger.  Unless you can show that your income will continue from the same job with the same company they credit you with (zero) income for affidavit purposes no matter what you made or are making overseas.  Leaving you with the options of self-sponsoring on (liquid) assets or getting a co-sponsor.

I had assumed the the OPs statement if “have sufficient current income “ meant the OP was now in the US and had employment which qualified. I may be wrong ... 

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1 hour ago, Lil bear said:

I had assumed the the OPs statement if “have sufficient current income “ meant the OP was now in the US and had employment which qualified. I may be wrong ... 

If this is correct my previous comment can be disregarded.  

I was assuming the OP was relocating to the US from overseas.

If this is not the case then the combination of tax returns and current income in the US would not be an issue.

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The current income, and it's continuatio from the US,  is the more important then the past tax returns.


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22 hours ago, Nitas_man said:

Unless you can show that your income will continue from the same job with the same company they credit you with (zero) income for affidavit purposes no matter what you made or are making overseas.

I currently work remote for a US company.  The past tax returns were for a company I worked for abroad. 

 

22 hours ago, Lil bear said:

I had assumed the the OPs statement if “have sufficient current income “ meant the OP was now in the US and had employment which qualified. I may be wrong ...

"have sufficient current income" means that I have had a job for the past year in the US, and that job and income will continue into 2019.

 

21 hours ago, Nitas_man said:

I was assuming the OP was relocating to the US from overseas

Yes, this a correct assumption.  I will be relocating with my wife to the US.

 

18 hours ago, Paul & Mary said:

The current income, and it's continuatio from the US,  is the more important then the past tax returns.

So, would it be feasible to file the affidavit based on my income alone? 

 

 

Thanks everyone for chiming in on this.

 

My big question in all this is if getting a joint sponsor now will be the ideal situation.  I can have my dad as a joint sponsor no problem.

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If the OP will supply the complete tax returns for the past three years and a current pay stub, there should be no need for a joint sponsor.  Providing one would be belt and suspenders, IMO.


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11 hours ago, MattAndOana said:

I currently work remote for a US company.  The past tax returns were for a company I worked for abroad. 

 

"have sufficient current income" means that I have had a job for the past year in the US, and that job and income will continue into 2019.

 

Yes, this a correct assumption.  I will be relocating with my wife to the US.

 

So, would it be feasible to file the affidavit based on my income alone? 

 

 

Thanks everyone for chiming in on this.

 

My big question in all this is if getting a joint sponsor now will be the ideal situation.  I can have my dad as a joint sponsor no problem.

I do not believe that a joint sponsor is required in your situation.

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Came online with my computer vs phone... OP isn't from a country known to have an issue.  I agree with a joint sponsor likely isn't necessary. 


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7 hours ago, pushbrk said:

If the OP will supply the complete tax returns for the past three years and a current pay stub, there should be no need for a joint sponsor.  Providing one would be belt and suspenders, IMO.

Belts and suspenders can be very useful . May turn out to be totally unnecessary but no harm in having . . 😁

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12 hours ago, pushbrk said:

Providing one would be belt and suspenders, IMO.

I've seen you use this expression multiple time; can't figure out if you're pro or con 😂

 

The only things that makes me worry and want to go belt and suspenders is the fact that my all my tax returns 2017 and prior are for amounts earned abroad that are lower than the poverty level in the US.  These were above average salaries in Romania, but I wonder if those amounts have any sway in how the CO perceives things, especially regarding financial stability.  I'm going to file my 2018 return and submit the 1040 and W2 for my current job.  If I choose to file the I-864 without a joint sponsor, should I also include transcripts from 2017 and 2016?

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14 hours ago, MattAndOana said:

I've seen you use this expression multiple time; can't figure out if you're pro or con 😂

 

The only things that makes me worry and want to go belt and suspenders is the fact that my all my tax returns 2017 and prior are for amounts earned abroad that are lower than the poverty level in the US.  These were above average salaries in Romania, but I wonder if those amounts have any sway in how the CO perceives things, especially regarding financial stability.  I'm going to file my 2018 return and submit the 1040 and W2 for my current job.  If I choose to file the I-864 without a joint sponsor, should I also include transcripts from 2017 and 2016?

I would, yes.  A Consular officer in Romania will be familiar with pay scales and living expenses in Romania.  The full return or return transcript will help them fill in the blanks.  Your occupation and current earnings combined with everything else should carry the day.

 

When I say belt and suspenders, I mean extra insurance.  Make your own judgment.  If you like to err on the safe side in that way, there's no harm in it.

 


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