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I am trying to submit my i485 and need a public surgeon to sign off on my exams that were done on my home country in September of this year. Now, when I called the clinic I found on the USCIS website they told me I would have to do all the exams again and that just doesn't sound right to me. It was my understanding that I would have to just take my records so the doctor  verifies them. Is that correct? Do I actually have to remake ally exams again?

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I know of no physician who would sign off on some other doctor's work.......too much liability involved....


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5 minutes ago, missileman said:

I know of no physician who would sign off on some other doctor's work.......too much liability involved....

Hi!

I guess my point is, why was it needed to make the exams under USCIS in my country to begin with if I need to make them again here?

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2 minutes ago, pacoba said:

Hi!

I guess my point is, why was it needed to make the exams under USCIS in my country to begin with if I need to make them again here?

Pre-K1 approval vs Pre-AOS approval, I guess..........You might want to read this about a new policy regarding I-693s...

"....Effective November 1, 2018, the I-693 medical report will be valid for two years from the date of submission to USCIS (and not one year as it is currently).   At the same time, USCIS are shortening the I-693 validity period to 60 days from the date the Civil Surgeon signs the I-693 medical exam (it used to be one year)."

 

https://www.cilawgroup.com/news/2018/10/18/new-uscis-policy-extends-i-693-medical-exam-validity-to-two-years-but-must-file-i-693-earlier/


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34 minutes ago, missileman said:

I know of no physician who would sign off on some other doctor's work.......too much liability involved....

This!  I would never sign off on an exam I didn't perform; not even for one of the other doctors I work with!


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Just now, agrabs said:

This!  I would never sign off on an exam I didn't perform; not even for one of the other doctors I work with!

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying there should e a blind sign off, but from my understanding from the rules the i693 would not require new exams if one has been made on the previous year. If that is the case then why would I have to do it? That's my real problem understanding the rule here.

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If your exams were completed in September, then you should be fine to submit them now. The 60 day rule, to my understanding (it's only just recently gone into effect), won't apply to K-1 applicants as they utilize a panel physician, not a civil surgeon. So as long as the medical is still within 1 year, they should accept it.

 

If you didn't complete all needed vaccinations, then you need a civil surgeon to sign off on that piece. The hard part is many won't sign that part of the paper without doing a full exam themselves (99% of the time they don't know thew K-1 medical process), so you need to either do a new exam OR keep calling until you find one who will sign just the vaccinations section.

 

No civil surgeon needs to "review" or sign off on the old medical.

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4 hours ago, pacoba said:

Hi all,

I am trying to submit my i485 and need a public surgeon to sign off on my exams that were done on my home country in September of this year. Now, when I called the clinic I found on the USCIS website they told me I would have to do all the exams again and that just doesn't sound right to me. It was my understanding that I would have to just take my records so the doctor  verifies them. Is that correct? Do I actually have to remake ally exams again?

With a k-1 visa you shouldn't need to do a medical in the US, as long as your examination overseas was completed within a year which is your case and all the vaccination requirements were respected. After your visa is granted they should have give you an enveloppe to give at the port of entry and you should have a DS-3025 at your medical examination. This document is the one you need to attach to your I-485.


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You don’t need another exam as long as all of your vaccinations are up to date on the most recent exam done. Just submit a copy of the exam done in September with your AoS. Good luck!  

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20 hours ago, pacoba said:

Yeah, I rechecked and my exams were done on Aug 31st. So I should just submit the copy of the DS 3025? What about the i-693? I submit it without the doctor's signature?

What happened when you got you medical done? After your interview you didn't receive an enveloppe along with you passport and Visa?


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09-12-2018: Expedite AP USCIS answer (request evidence).       11-07-2018: Expedite AP requested

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09-14-2018: Notice for biometrics                                                    11-09-2018: NOA1 Hard copies

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1 hour ago, Gibus said:

What happened when you got you medical done? After your interview you didn't receive an enveloppe along with you passport and Visa?

I got that sealed envelope and that was delivered to the embassy at my interview... I only kept the DS3025. I'm adding those records were inside the envelope I delivered on the port of entry here. That is why I posted this question again. If I had old records, I'd understand a new exam, but not the case.

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1 minute ago, pacoba said:

I got that sealed envelope and that was delivered to the embassy at my interview... I only kept the DS3025. I'm adding those records were inside the envelope I delivered on the port of entry here. That is why I posted this question again. If I had old records, I'd understand a new exam, but not the case.

So you gave the enveloppe containing your medical exams at the port of entry right? If so you don't need to do another medical examination for your AOS. You just need to join a copy of your DS-3025 with your application, as far as it specifies that you completed the vaccination requirements.


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09-05-2018: Package sent.                                                                 10-29-2018: New application sent.

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09-12-2018: Expedite AP USCIS answer (request evidence).       11-07-2018: Expedite AP requested

09-13-2018: Evidence Fax sent                                                          11-08-2018: Expedite AP denied

09-14-2018: Notice for biometrics                                                    11-09-2018: NOA1 Hard copies

10-03-2018: Biometrics appointment                                               11-28-2018: Biometrics

10-20-2018: Rejected! (Check bounced) 😢

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Gibus said:

So you gave the enveloppe containing your medical exams at the port of entry right? If so you don't need to do another medical examination for your AOS. You just need to join a copy of your DS-3025 with your application, as far as it specifies that you completed the vaccination requirements.

With no i693? Or one only partially filled?

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1 minute ago, pacoba said:

With no i693? Or one only partially filled?

No I-693, since you gave it at your POE it will be transferred to the USCIS, you don't need one with your application, just a copy of your DS-3025.


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08-24-2018: Married :)

 

AOS/EAD/AP:

 

09-05-2018: Package sent.                                                                 10-29-2018: New application sent.

09-11-2018: AOS/EAD/AP NOA-1                                                      11-05-2018: Reception text messages

09-12-2018: Request expedite AP                                                     11-06-2018: Fees cashed

09-12-2018: Expedite AP USCIS answer (request evidence).       11-07-2018: Expedite AP requested

09-13-2018: Evidence Fax sent                                                          11-08-2018: Expedite AP denied

09-14-2018: Notice for biometrics                                                    11-09-2018: NOA1 Hard copies

10-03-2018: Biometrics appointment                                               11-28-2018: Biometrics

10-20-2018: Rejected! (Check bounced) 😢

 

 

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