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Hello all, thank you for your help so far.

in combing the forum, I am unable to find something similar to our situation.


Here is our timeline for our employment based GC application (both applicants are Canadian entered on LIA/B): 

-July 22, 2017, received NOID. submitted new evidence as requested. 
-November 30th, 485 denied due to denied 601. Husband was caught for 2.2 grams of Cannabis 24 yrs ago in Canada. NOID did not ask for any reason listed in denial. 
-December 26, 2017, MTR filed for I601  
-February 15, 2018, field office transferred MTR to AAO. 
-April 16, 2018-both husband and wife EAD/AP expired. Husband resigned work. 
-wife left for Canada on May 5th as instructed by lawyer without valid AP thinking we could return with GC when approved. (we were hoping to avoid her accruing illegal presence should MTR be denied).
-June 26th, 2018, AAO approved MTR i601 and transferred file back to field office. 
-July 6th, 2018, lawyer informed us that by wife leaving, she abandoned GC application. Words can't describe our disappointment that our lawyer didn't tell us about the GC application abandonment. We have spent 8.5 yrs on this and would not have left but she was concerned about accrual of unlawful status which is why wife left before that occurred. Husband had to stay due to expired i-192. 

What are our options? If 485 was in denied status, is it still considered abandonment? Is consular processing really the only option?

Is there any option to apply for AP/EAD and mail to her or continue GC app from USA and mail her the approved GC? Bios were done in 2016.

Also, have heard about pleading case at border with CBP agent and hoping for a deferred entry.

Thank you in advance for any assistance. Being separated during consular will be both a personal and financial nightmare considering all our assets and expenses are in USA.

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10 minutes ago, CND1975 said:

What are our options? If 485 was in denied status, is it still considered abandonment? Is consular processing really the only option?

You can file an I-824 to have the I-130 sent to NVC, then she can complete consular processing abroad for a CR-1/IR-1 visa.

 

10 minutes ago, CND1975 said:

Is there any option to apply for AP/EAD and mail to her or continue GC app from USA and mail her the approved GC? Bios were done in 2016.

With a denied I-485, there's no basis for an AP or EAD.

 

11 minutes ago, CND1975 said:

Also, have heard about pleading case at border with CBP agent and hoping for a deferred entry.

You're free to try, but I would not count on this. She abandoned her I-485 when she left w/o AP.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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If she abandoned her AOS, she can not apply for EAD/AP now.  If her AOS was denied, she can not apply for EAD/AP now.  I don't see any option other than Consular Processing.....but I defer to those with more knowledge on this subject.

 

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Thank you missleman and mushroomspore.  Pretty much the same info I am finding out there.  Yes, that lawyer let out some important info....

 

Geowrian, thanks, I had only been looking at the K3 visa as an option and was unaware of the Cr/AR 1.  I will look into this, do you know what processing time on these is currently?

 

Also, if she were to come visit on a tourist visa, and the CBP was convinced that her ties to Canada etc would have her return, were she to change her mind and want to stay in US while I130 pending, how do you think this would affect that application or future citizenship?  Not saying that she does, just want to know the options should she decide this someday.

 

Appreciate all of your time, sincerely, CDN1975

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4 minutes ago, CND1975 said:

 

 

Geowrian, thanks, I had only been looking at the K3 visa as an option and was unaware of the Cr/AR 1.  I will look into this, do you know what processing time on these is currently?

 

 

Am I missing something? OP is a LPR not a USC, right? So it can only be F2A?

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Just now, CND1975 said:

Geowrian, thanks, I had only been looking at the K3 visa as an option and was unaware of the Cr/AR 1.  I will look into this, do you know what processing time on these is currently?

K-3 is obsolete. It's still on the books, but there's > 99.9% chance it won't go through and turn into a CR-1/IR-1 anyway. Only 29 were issued all last fiscal year (versus over 100k CR-1/IR-1 visas in the same year).

 

CR-1/IR-1 timelines are typically 12-16 months right now, but the longest part is the I-130 (~6-9 months). Since you have an approved I-130 already, your timeline would just be I-824 + NVC processing + embassy processing. I'm unsure on current I-824 timelines, though, but typically they are decently shorter than I-130 processing timelines. NVC processing is typically 2-3 months.

 

You are free to apply for an expedite on the I-824 and/or NVC/embassy processing if you meet the expedite criteria (https://www.uscis.gov/forms/expedite-criteria).

 

Just now, CND1975 said:

Also, if she were to come visit on a tourist visa, and the CBP was convinced that her ties to Canada etc would have her return, were she to change her mind and want to stay in US while I130 pending, how do you think this would affect that application or future citizenship?  Not saying that she does, just want to know the options should she decide this someday.

With a very recently denied AOS application, entry with any tourist status is unlikely due to immigrant intent. She cannot enter with intent to apply for AOS. A reasonable assumption is that she would be high risk to do so.

It would have no impact on citizenship, though. Normally I would say try and hope for the best (use an airport with preclearance!), but given the history here I think she may be at risk for an expedited deportation if the CBP officer thinks she is trying to deceive them, which would add in a 5 year bar to the process (waivable, but delays the case further).

 

2 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Am I missing something? OP is a LPR not a USC, right? So it can only be F2A?

Good catch! I missed that. This would fall into the F2A category, not CR-1/IR-1. It doesn't change any of the above (assuming the I-130's PD is current?), except that a K-3 is even more impossible as that's only for USCs.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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I’m not sure if I’m misunderstanding something but the original I130 was employment based, and that’s been abandoned? So won’t they have to start from scratch with a F2A-based I130? 

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2 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

I’m not sure if I’m misunderstanding something but the original I130 was employment based, and that’s been abandoned? So won’t they have to start from scratch with a F2A-based I130? 

What's an employment-based I-130? :P

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Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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2 minutes ago, geowrian said:

What's an employment-based I-130? :P

OP said ‘Here is our timeline for our employment based GC application (both applicants are Canadian entered on LIA/B):”

maybe “petition” rather than I130, I don’t know exactly the process of employment based AOS, but (again if I understand correctly) that was abandoned. Don’t they have to start from scratch now? What exactly do they carry across for her if not?

 

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Just now, SusieQQQ said:

OP said ‘Here is our timeline for our employment based GC application (both applicants are Canadian entered on LIA/B):”

Understood. But an I-130 only applies for a relative (family-based immigration). Maybe they meant I-140?

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Just now, geowrian said:

Understood. But an I-130 only applies for a relative (family-based immigration). Maybe they meant I-140?

(I clarified my post with an edit)

you spoke about an existing I130, I don’t see where one could be ?

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It was based off of i140.  Thank you both.  Any advice to expedite this and get her back to USA?  She has a leg injury and will have surgery soon so unable to work for a while.  Plus she owns a business here that will be damaged by her absence.  Anything outside the box would be huge!  info pass appointment?  CBP honest plea? congressperson plea?  Appreciate the efforts!

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