Eatery workers: Boycott Army base that called ICE on pizza delivery guy

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

1 minute ago, yuna628 said:

But we see this so many times on VJ you know? I have yet to understand it, but it seems common enough.

It still amazes every time I see it though.

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

1 minute ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

It still amazes every time I see it though.

I am becoming immune to amazement

[yuna628 9,528]

1 minute ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

It still amazes every time I see it though.

I mean maybe half of it is ignorance, maybe another half is fear? Maybe another component is bad lawyer advice? But it does seem to me at least some tiny part of it, is the fact a person could wait it out for as long as they'd like and file AOS and it's all forgiven?

 

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

4 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

I mean maybe half of it is ignorance, maybe another half is fear? Maybe another component is bad lawyer advice? But it does seem to me at least some tiny part of it, is the fact a person could wait it out for as long as they'd like and file AOS and it's all forgiven?

 

+1 for all of those. I do think the major thing involving this would be bad lawyer advice if people had one at all which in this case it certainly appears that they didn't have one at all that was worth anything because they will have to somehow try to beat the original deportation order with a waiver if they filed for one at all.

[Umka36 781]

3 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Totally agree and it aggravates the hell out of my wife and I to no end.

 

We saw this a lot in California when trying to sign up for something like Pre-K for my child. According to them I was paid to much in 2017 to be given any kind of discount or break on the price, but the chart they went off of to disqualify me were from 2014. All the while I am a taking paying hard working person with a family of 4, but I can't get a break because we are legal and I am White(Non-Armenian). My wife had a friend that kept telling her to sign up for WIC and Food Stamps, and I had to keep telling her that I made to much for those programs. I was making $75k a year in Los Angeles with a family which meant expenses were tight but according to the state is I made to much for help, but not really enough to be comfortable in Los Angeles.

LOL isn't $75k minimum wage in LA or was that in SF.

[Cyberfx1024 7,978]

1 minute ago, Umka36 said:

LOL isn't $75k minimum wage in LA or was that in SF.

This is Los Angeles County but Pasadena to be exact. $75k is doing ok if it's only you and/or a spouse but a couple with 4 kids is no Bueno at all.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 hours ago, yuna628 said:

I mean maybe half of it is ignorance, maybe another half is fear? Maybe another component is bad lawyer advice? But it does seem to me at least some tiny part of it, is the fact a person could wait it out for as long as they'd like and file AOS and it's all forgiven?

 

I know when we were at this juncture in our visa journey, there were people who did not file AOS to save money.  As long as the immigrant doesn’t need to leave the country between marriage and the normal ROC timeframe (two yrs minus 90 days), then doing AOS at that time saves several hundred dollars.  It just means that after marriage and while waiting those almost two years, the immigrant would technically be out of status, and if hauled into court for some reason, would be told to file AOS.  So it’s basically rolling the dice and taking the chance of not having to go home or be called in front of an immigration judge.  

 

Not advocating that process, but I remember people doing it to save money.

[TBoneTX 43,058]

We still see the no-immediate-AOS business here.

People undertake the immigration process despite being as poor as a dormouse.

They then blame joblessness, car repairs, or other things for not filing for AOS.

The obvious remedy is to allocate AOS fees in advance and keep them in an untouchable account.

However, we never hear of this having been done.

[Dashinka 23,244]

9 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

We still see the no-immediate-AOS business here.

People undertake the immigration process despite being as poor as a dormouse.

They then blame joblessness, car repairs, or other things for not filing for AOS.

The obvious remedy is to allocate AOS fees in advance and keep them in an untouchable account.

However, we never hear of this having been done.

Completely agree.  I always tell anyone I talk to going through a K1 to make sure they budget for the AOS so they can do it as soon as possible after marriage,  Of course, there will always be those that ignore that advice.

[yuna628 9,528]

11 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

We still see the no-immediate-AOS business here.

People undertake the immigration process despite being as poor as a dormouse.

They then blame joblessness, car repairs, or other things for not filing for AOS.

The obvious remedy is to allocate AOS fees in advance and keep them in an untouchable account.

However, we never hear of this having been done.

I dunno... is it just a priority thing? There is nothing more in this world that's a top priority for me than the responsibility for me to protect my husband's status and ensure we follow the law. The alternative certainly isn't good for any immigrant these days. I'm a woman of meager means, but had a good deal of savings.. so did he, to prepare for everything and anything. Things got really tight for a while until he found the job, and even still we lost a good deal of money on car repairs.. but we still found the money to file on time.

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

Even anticipating a delay in AOS and understanding the consequences of doing so, we are talking longer than  8 years here, to me that shows intent to never adjust status, working illegally is a crime, overstaying a deportation order is a crime so the articles statement he committed no crime since illegally entering is a total fabrication

[Going through 5,668]

46 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

so the articles statement he committed no crime since illegally entering is a total fabrication

That's one thing that irks me about this....and also what irks me when I see members making these sort of statements about their own circumstances when here asking for advice...
"oh, he came to the country illegally but he isn't a criminal, he's never done anything illegal!!" (and the like).  As if entering a country illegally is NOT a crime to begin with.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

3 hours ago, Randyandyuni said:

Even anticipating a delay in AOS and understanding the consequences of doing so, we are talking longer than  8 years here, to me that shows intent to never adjust status, working illegally is a crime, overstaying a deportation order is a crime so the articles statement he committed no crime since illegally entering is a total fabrication

 

  People know they can get away with this. Simple fix, don't ever let overstay and illegal work become an irrelevant issue just by getting married to a USC spouse. If you work illegally, you can't adjust status, period. If you overstay, you can't adjust status. Exceptions should be limited to extreme scenarios, not automatic. Make everyone who does this exit, serve any ban that would apply, and start from scratch. 

[Randyandyuni 2,682]

I wasn't trying to show the ridiculous nature of the immigration laws, I was stating the press was incapable of recognizing a crime because it did not fit their agenda, by working in the absence of an EAD or green card he had committed two crimes, by ignoring the deportation order he committed a third, he either was not paying taxes or had a fraudulent SSN making crime number 4, far from a law abiding citizen even after his criminal act of illegal entry. It does not matter if you agree with a  law you still need to comply with it to be considered law abiding

[Steeleballz 7,550]

7 minutes ago, Randyandyuni said:

I wasn't trying to show the ridiculous nature of the immigration laws, I was stating the press was incapable of recognizing a crime because it did not fit their agenda, by working in the absence of an EAD or green card he had committed two crimes, by ignoring the deportation order he committed a third, he either was not paying taxes or had a fraudulent SSN making crime number 4, far from a law abiding citizen even after his criminal act of illegal entry. It does not matter if you agree with a  law you still need to comply with it to be considered law abiding

 

  Well, yeah, when it come's to immigration issues, it's difficult to go by what is in a media article at the best of times. Even if the rare event that the media source is not biased one way or the other, the understanding of immigration law is so poor as to make the article superficial at best, and completely unreliable at worst.