Adjusting via B2 visa....should the law be changed?

[Crazy Cat 39,424]

I think that anyone who comes to the US via B2 and marries  should have to return to their country to wait out the CR-1process.  First, I think the majority of those who adjust from a B2 really enter with intent.  Secondly, why should it matter where or when the decision was made to marry.  Shouldn't those people be required to get in line with everyone else who has waited months and years to live with their spouses?

[Dashinka 23,330]

I am fine with a proposal like that.  It would help eliminate the question of intent on a B2 and possibly make it easier for spouses to visit during the CR1 processing.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

 

   

30 minutes ago, missileman said:

I think that anyone who comes to the US via B2 and marries  should have to return to their country to wait out the CR-1process.  First, I think the majority of those who adjust from a B2 really enter with intent.  Secondly, why should it matter where or when the decision was made to marry.  Shouldn't those people be required to get in line with everyone else who has waited months and years to live with their spouses?

 

  I think everyone who marries a foreign spouse should live in the foreign country for 2 years to prove they are not just being used for a visa. If it works out after two years, then they can come back.  Shouldn't spouses be required to get in line with everyone else? Why does it matter where you met them? Why should foreign spouses jump ahead of other immigrant categories who have been in line for years?

 

  

[Dashinka 23,330]

4 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   

 

  I think everyone who marries a foreign spouse should live in the foreign country for 2 years to prove they are not just being used for a visa. If it works out after two years, then they can come back.  Shouldn't spouses be required to get in line with everyone else? Why does it matter where you met them? Why should foreign spouses jump ahead of other immigrant categories who have been in line for years?

 

  

Your idea has merit, but it may not work for some countries as their immigration laws may be even more strict.  As to getting in line, I guess I do look at a spouse as a little different than someone's parent, or grandparent, or 4th cousin thrice removed.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Your idea has merit, but it may not work for some countries as their immigration laws may be even more strict.  As to getting in line, I guess I do look at a spouse as a little different than someone's parent, or grandparent, or 4th cousin thrice removed.

 

  Ask me if I care about other countries laws. 

[Dashinka 23,330]

7 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Ask me if I care about other countries laws. 

I guess if you don't care, fine, but to implement your plan forcing them to live in the foreign country for a couple of years I think that has to be a consideration. 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

I guess if you don't care, fine, but to implement your plan forcing them to live in the foreign country for a couple of years I think that has to be a consideration. 

 

     Have we given the same consideration to changing B2 laws? Every law change has ramifications. 

 

     If we trust USCIS to do their jobs, I don't have a real issue with the B2 or K1. If we don't trust them, both visa's are subject to fraudulent use. 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

19 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Ask me if I care about other countries laws. 

You will when you have to live there two years,,😂

[Unidentified 2,930]

I think it is way too easy to get a K1 visa especially from countries like the Philippines where the USC doesn't even have to know who he is marrying as long as they met once during a weekend trip. It also seems way too easy to come here on B2, marry and adjust while the rest of us have to jump through hoops and wait. 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 minute ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

You will when you have to live there two years,,😂

 

    Under no circumstances would I have to live in another country. That would always be my choice. I believe I have heard this argument of choice presented often in this forum in other immigration categories.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 hour ago, missileman said:

I think that anyone who comes to the US via B2 and marries  should have to return to their country to wait out the CR-1process.  First, I think the majority of those who adjust from a B2 really enter with intent.  Secondly, why should it matter where or when the decision was made to marry.  Shouldn't those people be required to get in line with everyone else who has waited months and years to live with their spouses?

Does the "line" go faster or slower if the immigrant stays here or goes home?

 

Couldn't we instead petition the government to shorten average processing times?

 

 

[Unidentified 2,930]

2 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Does the "line" go faster or slower if the immigrant stays here or goes home?

 

Couldn't we instead petition the government to shorten average processing times?

 

 

Do you think with the political climate surrounding immigration that the government is going to hire more people to deal with people coming into this country when they're busy trying to kick people out?

[Steeleballz 7,550]

3 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Does the "line" go faster or slower if the immigrant stays here or goes home?

 

Couldn't we instead petition the government to shorten average processing times?

 

 

 

    Good point, simple really and yet for some reason, many people try to put 2 and 2 together on this one and come up with 38. 

[Dashinka 23,330]

18 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

     Have we given the same consideration to changing B2 laws? Every law change has ramifications. 

 

     If we trust USCIS to do their jobs, I don't have a real issue with the B2 or K1. If we don't trust them, both visa's are subject to fraudulent use. 

All visas are subject to fraudulent usage.  I guess we could just completely close the borders and use your idea that if you want to marry a foreign spouse have at it outside the US. 

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Just now, Unidentified said:

Do you think with the political climate surrounding immigration that the government is going to hire more people to deal with people coming into this country when they're busy trying to kick people out?

I think in any society you will have 25% who have a total, authorian, Hardline view on immigration, 25% like me who think immigration laws are a relic of the 19th century and should be minimized (laissez faire) and 50% of the folks who have some sort of mixed opinion.  

Doesn't answer your question though. I can tell you that the average US citizen has no idea how the family system works. They have concepts that equate green cards with citizenship, think that folks waltz into the country like moving from New Jersey to New York and have no idea what it is like to bring adult family here. I doubt we will see progress unless someone in Congress decides to pay the price and sponsor comprehensive immigration reform.