proof of domicile proof of domicile

[MrHanky 1,377]

2 minutes ago, kubi_gyasi said:

Its general checklist

so if it doesn't apply then you shouldn't need to worry about it, I'm doing something different but also received a general checklist with things that don't apply, including proving domicile.

[NikLR 13,220]

Its the document list not an actual checklist.  He posted it in another thread.  

[bravagreen 36]

Make sure when gathering all the nvc asked for, you dont forget to add your supporting documents like proof of your relationship such as pictures, boarding passes of wen ever you visted her, chat, letters from both families attesting to the bonafide of your relationship, weatern union receipts, receipts of packages you been sending each other and any thing you deemed as evidence. All this i mentioned is what we call front loading. You do that and the embassy will receive if from nvc and go through it before your wife interview and that will. Ensure easy passage. Because wen you carry the evidence in hand and go for the interview the counselor officers dont have much time to carefully go through them. So you might want to frontlaod your case and i bet it will increase your chances above 60%. Good luck.

[Michael2017 368]

43 minutes ago, bravagreen said:

Make sure when gathering all the nvc asked for, you dont forget to add your supporting documents like proof of your relationship such as pictures, boarding passes of wen ever you visted her, chat, letters from both families attesting to the bonafide of your relationship, weatern union receipts, receipts of packages you been sending each other and any thing you deemed as evidence. All this i mentioned is what we call front loading. You do that and the embassy will receive if from nvc and go through it before your wife interview and that will. Ensure easy passage. Because wen you carry the evidence in hand and go for the interview the counselor officers dont have much time to carefully go through them. So you might want to frontlaod your case and i bet it will increase your chances above 60%. Good luck.

Above 60%? There is a 95%+ chance to start with, on average, front loaded or not.

[JFH 12,189]

6 hours ago, Michael2017 said:

 There is a 95%+ chance to start with, on average, front loaded or not.

Not for Ghana. 

[bnation_86 17]

I submitted all you are talking about when I submitted the i-130 to the USCIS office . I don't know if NVC will still demand them or not . immigration is no joke

[MrHanky 1,377]

8 hours ago, bravagreen said:

Make sure when gathering all the nvc asked for, you dont forget to add your supporting documents like proof of your relationship such as pictures, boarding passes of wen ever you visted her, chat, letters from both families attesting to the bonafide of your relationship, weatern union receipts, receipts of packages you been sending each other and any thing you deemed as evidence. All this i mentioned is what we call front loading. You do that and the embassy will receive if from nvc and go through it before your wife interview and that will. Ensure easy passage. Because wen you carry the evidence in hand and go for the interview the counselor officers dont have much time to carefully go through them. So you might want to frontlaod your case and i bet it will increase your chances above 60%. Good luck.

You don't do that for NVC, but I would bring it to the embassy for the interview.

[NikLR 13,220]

For Ghana, Nigeria, and other high fraud countries people tend to sideload at the NVC stage so the CO can see all the evidence before the interview.  

[geowrian 22,336]

14 hours ago, Michael2017 said:

Above 60%? There is a 95%+ chance to start with, on average, front loaded or not.

I'm curious where these statistics originated if they apply to actual spousal visas (or only the I-130s).

[Michael2017 368]

Here is the thread:

 

K1 at interview approval rate is 91%, ultimately K1 approval rate, at the end of the day is: 95.03%

CR1, F2A etc. should have even higher apporval rates, some threats crunched the numbers and came up with a very high percentage of visa issuance for these kind of visas, higher than K1.

 

This is not I-130 approval but issued visa.

 

If we consider that Ghana, Nigeria, MENA has a much lower approval rate, this indicates that the rest of the world

will be close to 100% to make the average work.

 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2017 by Michael2017

[geowrian 22,336]

56 minutes ago, Michael2017 said:

Here is the thread:

 

K1 at interview approval rate is 91%, ultimately K1 approval rate, at the end of the day is: 95.03%

CR1, F2A etc. should have even higher apporval rates, some threats crunched the numbers and came up with a very high percentage of visa issuance for these kind of visas, higher than K1.

 

This is not I-130 approval but issued visa.

 

If we consider that Ghana, Nigeria, MENA has a much lower approval rate, this indicates that the rest of the world

will be close to 100% to make the average work.

Thanks for providing the info! This helps understand it better.

 

I'm not personally convinced the approval rate is quite that high since:

1. The data is over 10 years old now. While there usually aren't break-neck changes in this kind of process, that is enough time, IMO, for substantial shifts to take place.
2. There's a bunch of fuzzy math involved to relate the number of approved petitions to issued visas. An approved petition does not necessarily result in a visa application (I know a few people personally who fell into this category). How many precisely? There's no data available to precisely determine this number.
   1. Looking at FY 2016's data, there's ~20% discrepancy between the number of K-1 visa applications versus approved I-129Fs.

Looking strictly at FY2016's K-1 generic approval rate across all countries, we have 38,403 initial approvals (63% of total visa applications that fiscal year). If we include those who were initially refused but overcome it (including those issued a 221g / "soft" refusal), then this jumps to 50,767 of 60,895 K-1 visa applications, or an 83% overall approval rate / 17% refusal rate.

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/NIVWorkload/FY2016NIVWorkloadbyVisaCategory.pdf

 

Edit: And read the note at the bottom on the link above...looks like the data provided back then was probably only for cases that were approved by the IV unit and sent to the NIV unit, and then were refused for other reasons afterward.

Edited November 26, 2017 by geowrian

[Michael2017 368]

2 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Thanks for providing the info! This helps understand it better.

 

I'm not personally convinced the approval rate is quite that high since:

1. The data is over 10 years old now. While there usually aren't break-neck changes in this kind of process, that is enough time, IMO, for substantial shifts to take place.
2. There's a bunch of fuzzy math involved to relate the number of approved petitions to issued visas. An approved petition does not necessarily result in a visa application (I know a few people personally who fell into this category). How many precisely? There's no data available to precisely determine this number.
   1. Looking at FY 2016's data, there's ~20% discrepancy between the number of K-1 visa applications versus approved I-129Fs.

Looking strictly at the K-1 generic approval rate across all countries, we have 38,403 initial approvals (63% of total visa applications that fiscal year). If we include those who were initially refused but overcome it (including those issued a 221g / "soft" refusal), then this jumps to 50,767 of 60,895 K-1 visa applications, or an 83% overall approval rate / 17% refusal rate.

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/NIVWorkload/FY2016NIVWorkloadbyVisaCategory.pdf

Well done, and great insight! Can you do the current numbers also for the CR1 or F2A spousal visa type? I am confident that the approval rate for spousal visas should be much ahead of the K1. Maybe I am wrong...

[geowrian 22,336]

1 minute ago, Michael2017 said:

Well done, and great insight! Can you do the current numbers also for the CR1 or F2A spousal visa type? I am confident that the approval rate for spousal visas should be much ahead of the K1. Maybe I am wrong...

Sorry, I cannot. Unfortunately, DOS doesn't release the number of refusals for immigrant visa categories (or if they do, I cannot find it on the DOS website).

 

Also, I added an edit to the above post, which I think relates directly to the 99.37% rate referenced in the linked post. Ugh..DOS used to release incomplete data.

[Michael2017 368]

Ok thanks. The Edit note is really also interesting.  My gut feeling is, that about 97%+ of people with approved I-130 will also get their visa in CR1 or F2A category but I could be wrong. What is your opinion for those categories?

 

Edited November 26, 2017 by Michael2017

[Ryan H 3,795]

2 hours ago, Michael2017 said:

Ok thanks. The Edit note is really also interesting.  My gut feeling is, that about 97%+ of people with approved I-130 will also get their visa in CR1 or F2A category but I could be wrong. What is your opinion for those categories?

 

 

 

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