Dem State Officials Refusing to Cooperate With Trump Voter Fraud Probe

[IAMX 3,055]

Democratic state officials already are refusing to cooperate with the voter fraud investigation ordered by President Trump, saying they will not hand over the extensive “voter roll data” the commission is seeking. 

The response comes after Kris Kobach, the Kansas secretary of state serving as vice chair of the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, wrote to all 50 states this week asking for their input as well as voter registration data.

“I have no intention of honoring this request. Virginia conducts fair, honest, and democratic elections, and there is no evidence of significant voter fraud in Virginia,” Virginia Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe countered in a statement Thursday, claiming the commission is based on the “specious and false notion that there was widespread voter fraud last November.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/30/dem-state-officials-refusing-to-cooperate-with-trump-voter-fraud-probe.html

 

So much for the "election security" arguments. 

[Dashinka 25,706]

17 minutes ago, IAMX said:

 

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/30/dem-state-officials-refusing-to-cooperate-with-trump-voter-fraud-probe.html

 

So much for the "election security" arguments. 

So were the elections fair and honest, or were the Russians involved?

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

9 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

So were the elections fair and honest, or were the Russians involved?

 

circa has done a bunch of reporting on that. surprised you need to ask.

[IAMX 3,055]

13 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

So were the elections fair and honest, or were the Russians involved?

 

I thought the left liked probes and investigations.. what gives man? 

[Dashinka 25,706]

5 minutes ago, IAMX said:

I thought the left liked probes and investigations.. what gives man? 

They don't like fracking, so maybe this is their way of finding some gas.

 

[CaliCat 3,957]

More fake news from Faux News. LOL. 

[IAMX 3,055]

11 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

They don't like fracking, so maybe this is their way of finding some gas.

 

They don't want to lose any more votes.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

5 hours ago, IAMX said:

I thought the left liked probes and investigations.. what gives man? 

dear god please say searching not probing 

5 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

So were the elections fair and honest, or were the Russians involved?

 

election security is only a big deal if its imaginary ruskies 

[jg121783 3,921]

You know if there is nothing to hide here it would be in their best interest to allow the investigation so Trump looks bad when (if) nothing comes of it. Sort of like Trump allowing the leftist Russian witch hunt to go on so they look bad (they already do) when nothing comes of it. The left is so concerned about foreign involvement in our elections when it comes to this made up Russia nonsense but if illegals were voting couldn't that be considered foreign involvement? Shouldn't we get to the bottom of it no matter what the results of the investigation are?

[JimandChristy 1,689]

Of course Fox News forgot to mention Republican governors in red states have also come out and are not honoring the request.

 

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Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann, a Republican, said of Kobach's letter: "My reply would be: They can go jump in the Gulf of Mexico, and Mississippi is a great state to launch from. Mississippi residents should celebrate Independence Day and our state's right to protect the privacy of our citizens by conducting our own electoral processes."

 

You still trust Fox News, who have a long reputation and history of broadcasting fake news even before Donnie came out with fake news.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

dear god please say searching not probing 

election security is only a big deal if its imaginary ruskies 

But I like that word. It reminds me of the dream I had after listening to Infowars and how we are at war with the aliens on Mars.

49 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Of course Fox News forgot to mention Republican governors in red states have also come out and are not honoring the request.

 

 

You still trust Fox News, who have a long reputation and history of broadcasting fake news even before Donnie came out with fake news.

What fake news did they ever put out? Sources?

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

Evidently the chairman of the commission asking for this data, responded to himself as KS sec of state, that he would not provide the data ....

 

GOVERNMENT & POLITICS

JUNE 30, 2017 3:25 PM

Kobach: Kansas won’t give Social Security info to Kobach-led voter commission at this time

BY BRYAN LOWRY

blowry@kcstar.com

 

Multiple states plan to buck Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach’s request for personal information on voters on behalf of a presidential commission.

Kobach said Friday that Kansas, at least for now, also won’t be sharing Social Security information with the commission, on which he serves as vice chairman. The state will share other information about the state’s registered voters, including names and addresses, which are subject to the state’s open records laws.

Kobach sent letters on behalf of the commission to every state requesting names, addresses, voting history and other personal information, such as the last four digits of voters’ Social Security numbers, earlier this week.

Kobach said Thursday that Kansas would provide all the information requested in the letter, but in a follow-up interview Friday, he said the state would not be sharing the Social Security information at this time.

 

“In Kansas, the Social Security number is not publicly available. … Every state receives the same letter, but we’re not asking for it if it’s not publicly available,” Kobach said.

 

 

He did not rule out the possibility of providing that information to the commission in the future.

“If the commission decides that they would like to receive Social Security numbers to a secure site in order to remove false positives, then we would have to double check and make sure Kansas law permits,” Kobach said.

 

 

“I know for a fact that this information would be secured and maintained confidentially,” he added in response to security concerns.

California and Kentucky’s Democratic secretaries of state said Thursday that they would not comply with the request. Virginia’s Democratic governor also said the state would not adhere to the request. Minnesota’s Democratic secretary of state followed suit on Friday.

Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann, a Republican, also will not comply.

 

“They can go jump in the Gulf of Mexico and Mississippi is a great State to launch from,” Hosemann said in a statement. “Mississippi residents should celebrate Independence Day and our State’s right to protect the privacy of our citizens by conducting our own electoral processes.”

Other states, including Republican-led Oklahoma and Utah, announced plans to provide some information to the commission while withholding other pieces, such as the partial Social Security numbers.

 

Missouri Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft’s office said Friday that it would not provide Social Security information or voting history to the commission. Ashcroft, a Republican, had said the day before that he looked forward to working with Kobach on the issue.

North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper, a Democrat, said in a statement Friday that he had advised the state’s voting board to not provide sensitive information beyond what is in the public record.

“That’s perfectly fine,” Kobach said Friday when asked about states that would provide names but withhold other information. “We understand that. And that is entirely up to each state.”

 

Kobach said the commission is seeking only information that is publicly available.

 

Kris Kobach: Trump's false claim about millions voting illegally is 'absolutely correct'

The Kansas Secretary of State is a vocal supporter of the president-elect.

Hunter Woodall The Kansas City Star

 

Kobach has said that personal information provided by states will not be disclosed, but many readers, including other election officials, have interpreted a line saying that documents will be made public to mean that all the information will be disclosed.

“The commission openly disclosed that all of this requested personal data, including social security numbers and voting history, would be made available to the public,” Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon said in a statement Friday. “I will not hand over Minnesota voters’ sensitive personal information to the commission.”

Simon said he fears the commission “risks becoming a partisan tool to shut out millions of eligible American voters.”

Kobach said Friday that the commission has no legal authority to compel states to hand over the information but that the Justice Department does possess such power. He said he could not say whether the department would become involved in the effort to obtain information from states. First, he said, the commission wants to see what information it receives from states.

Former Missouri Secretary of State Jason Kander mocked the fact that Kansas would not provide Social Security information. “Even Kobach thinks Kobach’s request is absurd,” said Kander, who chairs a Democratic National Committee voting rights panel that was formed in response to the president’s voter commission.

 

Even Kobach thinks Kobach's request is absurd. https://t.co/iR9JAUXa34

— Jason Kander (@JasonKander) June 30, 2017

Kobach has bristled at the backlash to his request from Democratic leaders.

“They’re trying to use this as a soapbox to make some left-wing political statement,” he said.

Bryan Lowry: 816-234-4077, @BryanLowry3

 

Secretary of State Kris Kobach said Friday that Kansas wouldn’t be sharing Social Security information with a presidential commission, on which he serves as vice chairman, at this time. File photo by Shane Keyser skeyser@kcstar.com

 

 

 

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[Amica Nostra 4,803]

And the same for Indiana

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Lawson withholds info from Trump's voter fraud commission, even though she's a member

 

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Tony Cook and Kaitlin L Lange | IndyStarUpdated 2 hours ago

A member of President Donald Trump's commission on voter fraudfrom Vice President Mike Pence's home state is withholding most of the voter information the commission requested this week. 

 

Indiana Secretary of State Connie Lawson won't provide information about voters' Security numbers, birthdates, political affiliation or voting history.

Indiana Secretary of State Connie Lawson.

Indianapolis Star

She said in a statement Friday that state law only allows her to share voter names, congressional districts and addresses.

“Indiana law doesn’t permit the Secretary of State to provide the personal information requested by Secretary Kobach," Lawson, a Republican, said Friday in a statement.

 

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach is the vice chairman of Trump's Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity, which is being led by Pence.

When asked about Lawson's decision to withhold some information from the commission, a  Pence spokesman said the commission is only seeking information that is "publicly available according to state law."

Kobach announced Wednesday he would ask all 50 states to provide publicly available voter roll data, including names, addresses, birthdates, political affiliation, voting history and the last four digits of Social Security numbers.

The request resulted in blowback from election officials in several states, who see the request as an effort to validate Trump's unsupported claim that millions of fraudulent votes were cast in the 2016 election.

 

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Lawson's office did not immediately respond to questions about whether she supported Kobach's request.

IndyStar reached out to Kobach but did not immediately receive a response. 

In his letter to state election officials, Kobach said the data would be housed on a secure server and would allow the commission to "fully analyze vulnerabilities and issues related to voter registration and voting."

But election officials in some states — including the nation's most populous — said they will not comply with the request. 

"I will not provide sensitive voter information to a commission that has already inaccurately passed judgment that millions of Californians voted illegally," California Secretary of State Alex Padilla said Thursday in a statement. "California's participation would only serve to legitimize the false and already debunked claims of massive voter fraud made by the President, the Vice President, and Mr. Kobach."

 

Indiana already participates in a voter roll data sharing program with more than two dozen other states. But that program, which is administered by Kobach, has been criticized for disproportionately flagging minorities and resulting in few prosecutions. 

Lawson is positioned to play a key role in shaping policy on such issues. She was appointed to Trump's commission in May and will host secretaries of state from across the nation in Indianapolis next week for a meeting of the National Association of Secretaries of State. 

As a state lawmaker, Lawson championed a bill in 2005 that made Indiana's voter ID requirements among the strictest in the nation.

She also attracted headlines in September when she sent a letter warning county election officials about a shadowy voter registration group with Democratic ties. At the time, the group accused Lawson of playing politics and suppressing the vote.

 

Earlier this month, though, Marion County Prosecutor Terry Curry — a Democrat — charged the group and 12 of its employees with felony voter registration fraud.

State police have said canvassers for the group created fraudulent voter registration forms to meet daily quotas. In some cases, canvassers paid vagrants with cigarettes to fill out multiple registrations. In another case, a canvasser used a phone book to fill out registrations for people who turned out to be dead, police said.

Curry, however, has emphasized that officials were not aware of any evidence that fraudulent ballots were actually cast in the 2016 election.

Call IndyStar reporter Tony Cook at (317) 444-6081. Follow him on Twitter and Facebook. 

 

Call IndyStar reporter Kaitlin L. Lange at (812) 549-1429. Follow her on Twitter: @kaitlin_lange. 

 

 

[OriZ 3,165]

I actually don't agree with providing them with the type of info they are asking for:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/29/trumps-voter-fraud-commission-wants-to-know-the-voting-history-party-id-and-address-of-every-voter-in-america/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-low_voter-fraud-655pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

 

Sorry but just no.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

4 minutes ago, OriZ said:

I actually don't agree with providing them with the type of info they are asking for:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/29/trumps-voter-fraud-commission-wants-to-know-the-voting-history-party-id-and-address-of-every-voter-in-america/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-low_voter-fraud-655pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

 

Sorry but just no.

Me either . Little TMI for big brother,  for my libertarian bones 

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