I’m a gay New Yorker — and I’m coming out as a conservative

[smilesammich 10,727]

8 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Nope

 

Just say those who go around beating people up because they do not like their beliefs have much more in common with each other than with people who do not.

if being a good middle of the road citizen means waiting around peacefully to let people who call for genocide have their turn at the mic, glad i'm on the extreme left. 

[Merle 458]

37 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

not really, right now the most extreme right is calling for a rise to power by white nationalist which includes vocal leaders who have made statements calling for and in support of ethnic cleansing and genocide.  

Example please.

[Boiler 46,860]

1 minute ago, Merle said:

Example please.

Trump

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, Merle said:

Example please.

from the nazi who got punched on camera (awesome sauce fyi).

Quote

Spencer has stated that he rejects the description of white supremacist, and describes himself as an identitarian.[4][5] He advocates for a white homeland for a "dispossessed white race" and calls for "peaceful ethnic cleansing" to halt the "deconstruction" of European culture.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer

[Boiler 46,860]

3 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

if being a good middle of the road citizen means waiting around peacefully to let people who call for genocide have their turn at the mic, glad i'm on the extreme left. 

Along with Stalin Mao Pol Pot etc?

[smilesammich 10,727]

4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Along with Stalin Mao Pol Pot etc?

white supremacists, kkk, david duke .. actively love trump and his crew. you support trump that's who you're siding with right now. you tell me how influential the ideologies of stalin and pol pot are going to be in policy making for the next four years..all i know is i want no part of whatever the kkk, david duke, and idiots like milo/richard spencer are buying into. 

[Boiler 46,860]

Just now, smilesammich said:

white supremacists, kkk, david duke .. actively love trump and his crew. you support trump that's who you're siding with right now. you tell me how influential the ideologies of stalin and pol pot are going to be in policy making for the next four years..all i know is i want no part of whatever the kkk, david duke, and idiots like milo/richard spencer are buying into. 

You have made an allegation, I love Trump?, I would like you to see you support it.

 

We could all list names of not very nice people, all I am saying is that they have a lot more in common with themselves that with me. Hillary and Trump always struck me as having a lot in common.

 

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

You have made an allegation, I love Trump?, I would like you to see you support it.

 

We could all list names of not very nice people, all I am saying is that they have a lot more in common with themselves that with me. Hillary and Trump always struck me as having a lot in common.

 

 

not you-boiler, you-anyone. but then i meant 'you-boiler' when i asked the question that will definitely go unanswered because now it's about not only equating right and left, but hillary and trump. 

also i think you miss the point of my list, it wasn't to name not very nice people. it was to name the groups who support trump who also believe trump should be creating policy to create a white nationalist haven, millions of POC in america be damned. i think it's most dangerous to equate racist foundations (trump) with racial (and political) tone deafness (hillary)

[Boiler 46,860]

8 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

not you-boiler, you-anyone. but then i meant 'you-boiler' when i asked the question that will definitely go unanswered because now it's about not only equating right and left, but hillary and trump. 

also i think you miss the point of my list, it wasn't to name not very nice people. it was to name the groups who support trump who also believe trump should be creating policy to create a white nationalist haven, millions of POC in america be damned. i think it's most dangerous to equate racist foundations (trump) with racial (and political) tone deafness (hillary)

So you want me to name the backers of the Clinton Foundation, where does that get us?

 

Assuming that people who support you by definition means you support them does seem odd btw.

[OriZ 3,157]

2 hours ago, Boiler said:

I think what annoys people the most is the not the weird beliefs of the likes of  Yvette Felarca, but them somehow thinking they are 'liberal' and 'just'. 

 

There are lots of people with weird views, what is new is the illiberal thinking they are some how liberal, inclusive whatever.

Personally my main issue is that they don't just keep their demented self righteous views to themselves, and are somehow allowed to be in positions to brainwash others.

 

3 hours ago, smilesammich said:

personally, i don't buy this sort of selling out in the slightest. absolutely nothing in this essay leads me to believe the author is now conservative. talking to and getting along with trump supporters does not at all make you a conservative. liberal friends shunning you because you're bending over and giving media attention to a total scumbag like milo is sort of what you get. and from the intro - exactly what the author expected. 

 

the problem here is that some conservatives appear to be unaware of what milo is and what he's hoping to accomplish. i bet he's pretty brand new to most of you. but you're not championing free speech in supporting milo. he'd love for more of you to believe that though so, i guess his 'im gay and i hate gays' and other nonsensical ideals sit pretty well with conservatives searching for a useful prop.

 

 

 

That's why I started my post with calling it erratic, nevertheless I do agree with many of his observations and think it is a very good example of a very real phenomenon. 

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

So you want me to name the backers of the Clinton Foundation, where does that get us?

 

Assuming that people who support you by definition means you support them does seem odd btw.

is clinton president? is clinton collecting membership fees for access to the winter white house and random live situation room broadcasts?? 

 

you know what else is odd? alt right hates mitt romney, alt right angry when they perceive trump is not towing their agenda..the connections from trumps admin to white supremacy are clear as day, but let's put cute little mittens on and handle the white supremacist/trump ties convo with republicans like a innocent little coincidence.  they won afterall, wouldn't it just be mean to spoil their fun over race relations/equality?? something we alllll know republicans just absolutely love discussing and dealing with? HA.

[Boiler 46,860]

Clinton was collecting fees in advance, turned out not to be a very good investment.

 

To imply there was a good choice is just weird.

[smilesammich 10,727]

6 minutes ago, OriZ said:

 

That's why I started my post with calling it erratic, nevertheless I do agree with many of his observations and think it is a very good example of a very real phenomenon. 

op is shifting his personal brand to appeal to a different base, he's explained it all very simply in the post. he knew he'd get backlash from interviewing milo and he's made the conscious decision to profit from that. looks to me like he's hoping to ride milo's coattails. would anyone be posting an article from a gay dude supporting liberal themes/leaders? hell naw, they're a dime a dozen. but who is getting a lot of play, a lot of air time right about now..oh look its a gay dude who thinks gay dudes should try to convert to hetero or get back in the closet. phenomenon? hardly. it's called jumping a bandwagon.

[Merle 458]

47 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

from the nazi who got punched on camera (awesome sauce fyi).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer

Well thats a relief because i thought you might have an example from someone that matters,  a congressman or senator for example. 

[smilesammich 10,727]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Clinton was collecting fees in advance, turned out not to be a very good investment.

 

To imply there was a good choice is just weird.

no comment on what trump is actually doing right now.

 

to my knowledge, hillary would not have chosen a white nationalists scumbag as her assistant and adviser. so, imo, she wins the lesser of two evils argument.