Trump says Muslims not doing enough to prevent attacks

[smilesammich 10,727]

A muslim community member from the neighborhood that the majority of the kids from Brussels who joined isis grew up in is not "intel" its getting the story from the perspective of the people who watched it build up to what it is now

[Expat1 971]

That's a smoke screen not an answer

[smilesammich 10,727]

That's a smoke screen not an answer

i'm not sure why you'd expect an answer when you never asked a question. love me some armchair world leaders though.

[OriZ 3,157]

One of the Islamic community outreach workers in Brussels interviewed on CNN said the same thing. "We knew they were radicalizing, so we banned them from the Mosque". Not "reported them" just "banned them from the mosque".

That exactly makes Trump's point.

OMG ####### man...now they're going to start calling you a Trump supporter too.

[ExPatty 502]

I know there is a certain person in this thread who mocks the importance of statistics, but for those who consider facts valuable:

http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

A significant minority (21%) of Muslim Americans say there is a great deal (6%) or a fair amount (15%) of support for extremism in the Muslim American community.

That's in their own view.

Many Muslims fault their own leaders for failing to challenge Islamic extremists. Nearly half (48%) say that Muslim leaders in the United States have not done enough to speak out against Islamic extremists; only about a third (34%) say Muslim leaders have done enough in challenging extremists. At the same time, 68% say that Muslim Americans themselves are cooperating as much as they should with law enforcement.

Sounds like Trump is right after all.

As that poll also states, a figure I have mentioned in the past, between the 1% of american muslims who says killing in the name of islam is often justified (1%), sometimes (7%), rarely (5%), we have 13% of muslims who support a scenario in which killing in the name of islam is justified.

Edited March 25, 2016 by ExPatty

[Robby999 1,024]

When a classroom heard news of the horrific Brussels terrorist attack, the teacher immediately noticed something his Muslim students were doing that made his stomach churn. However, just four hours after he tweeted out what the teens were doing, he received a knock on his door.

Ivar Mol is a Dutch teacher who prides himself on instilling knowledge into his students, regardless of their background. However, soon after the recent attack on a Belgium airport and Metro, he noticed there is something particularly unique about his Muslim students.

While civilians were being slaughtered in Brussels, the Dutch teacher witnessed his Muslim students openly applauding and celebrating the carnage. In front of the entire class, the Islamic children laughed and praised the terrorist attack, as the rest of the non-Muslim students simply looked on in horror.

Mol quickly tweeted what was going on, asking, “How do you still teach when Muslim children in your class are applauding the attack?” He included the hashtags #aanslagen and #zaventem, two references to the Brussels attack.

Hours later, Mol tweeted that 3 police officers were waiting for him on his sidewalk and that he wasn’t sure if he should continue his activity on social media. He then revealed that he had received a call from Paul Depla, Mayor of Breda, oddly telling him that the police were not sent by his command. Mol added that the “story remains strange.”

Mol later slammed the police visit as a “terribly stupid action,” and he could not be more accurate. We have a terrorist attack just across the border from Netherlands, and a group of students practicing the same ideology as the terrorists lauding the onslaught, yet police are more concerned that a white European teacher is being “Islamophobic.”

Instead of knocking on the door of the educator who expressed his disgust with his students’ solidarity of terrorism, they should be breaking down the doors of these children’s homes. These students are being taught that the murder of innocent non-Muslims is praise-worthy, and the fact that they are bold enough to celebrate this in public is not only disturbing, it’s telling of our own tolerance of evil.

This sentiment isn’t reserved to uninhibited, hormonal youths. The left’s so-called moderate Muslims joined in the jubilance, celebrating the deadly attack on social media. The Jerusalem Post reports that Twitter exploded with hashtags showing support of the ISIS attack, but not from actual Islamic State fighters.

This behavior isn’t anything new to the Muslim world. The celebration of indiscriminate slaughter and the blame of their ideological violence on Western governances continues to gain momentum. However, jihad has been a work in progress for over 1,400 years.

Before there was even an America to blame, Muhammad waged war on unbelievers, calling in the Quran for followers to “smite at their necks” and “kill the unbelievers wherever you find them,” simply because they refuse to acknowledge Allah as their god. Centuries later, 270 million non-Muslims were led to their deaths under the falsehood that Muslims are just as tolerant as any other religion.

http://madworldnews.com/teacher-muslim-students-attack/

[smilesammich 10,727]

I know there is a certain person in this thread who mocks the importance of statistics, but for those who consider facts valuable:

http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

That's in their own view.

Sounds like Trump is right after all.

As that poll also states, a figure I have mentioned in the past, between the 1% of american muslims who says killing in the name of islam is often justified (1%), sometimes (7%), rarely (5%), we have 13% of muslims who support a scenario in which killing in the name of islam is justified.

what's sort of crazy is how i read that article and come away with a completely different take than you do. i guess that's the trouble with surveys such as these, in that people interpret questions a bit differently. i know i know, expatty, only your slant counts.

i wonder if you polled nonmuslim americans how many would respond that america deserves what it gets when it comes to extremism - because the percentages are probably right in line with percentages you give above. those americans that feel that way are probably easier isis recruits. keep that in mind as you go on about trump being right.

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

what's sort of crazy is how i read that article and come away with a completely different take than you do. i guess that's the trouble with surveys such as these, in that people interpret questions a bit differently. i know i know, expatty, only your slant counts.

So the imam from the grand mosque in Brussels says that simple condemnation is "not enough anymore" and that Muslims need to do more.. For his part he will be starting programs within his communities to deal with radicalization.

http://www.euronews.com/2016/03/24/muslim-condemnation-of-attacks-not-enough-anymore-says-grand-mosque-imam/

[smilesammich 10,727]

So the imam from the grand mosque in Brussels says that simple condemnation is "not enough anymore" and that Muslims need to do more.. For his part he will be starting programs within his communities to deal with radicalization.

http://www.euronews.com/2016/03/24/muslim-condemnation-of-attacks-not-enough-anymore-says-grand-mosque-imam/

good, that's awesome. i don't really understand the issue. nor do i see similarities in what trump is calling for and what the imam from the grand mosque in brussels is enacting.

Edited March 25, 2016 by elitesthuglib

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

good, that's awesome. i don't really understand the issue. nor do i see similarities in what trump is calling for and what the imam from the grand mosque in Brussels is enacting.

There was an interview on CNN last night in the background so no source and from memory so this is a FWIW - They were actually complimenting the US governments approach and saying the relationships between police forces and the Muslim communities here were much more open than in Europe which has created a better flow of information and reduced the level of radicalization.

[smilesammich 10,727]

There was an interview on CNN last night in the background so no source and from memory so this is a FWIW - They were actually complimenting the US governments approach and saying the relationships between police forces and the Muslim communities here were much more open than in Europe which has created a better flow of information and reduced the level of radicalization.

ostracism rarely accomplishes much, but more of the same. indeed.

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[ready4ONE 5,400]

I know there is a certain person in this thread who mocks the importance of statistics, but for those who consider facts valuable:

http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

That's in their own view.

Sounds like Trump is right after all.

As that poll also states, a figure I have mentioned in the past, between the 1% of american muslims who says killing in the name of islam is often justified (1%), sometimes (7%), rarely (5%), we have 13% of muslims who support a scenario in which killing in the name of islam is justified.

13% That's like a majority of US Muslims! You are so right! Wonder why there aren't several hundred thousand dead US infidels given your horrifying facts?

[OriZ 3,157]

Meanwhile in Cuba:

[Boiler 46,977]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/653818/Molenbeek-terror-raid-Paris-attacks-Salah-Abdeslam-Belgium-riot-police

Riot police were called in to disperse the crowds who gathered in the Brussels suburb after missiles were thrown at the Belgian authorities.

Tensions were sparked after young people from the troubled area started declaring their support for their “hero” Abdeslam, according to a witness.

An eyewitness posted on Twitter: “Great tension in Molenbeek with young people from the area praising their ‘hero’ Salah Abdeslam."