What Are The Possible Outcomes - ICE Report

[followmehome12 0]

If a report were made about a person who overstayed a tourist visa by 10+ years, then assumed a new identity, changed their name, birth certificate, SS#, passport, brought their wife and (adult) kids over, then even proceeded to petitioning for citizenship, yet was not convicted of a crime, would it be acted upon? And how fast? I read that they don't have resources to pursue simple overstays, but this is far from simple.

Oh, and this person was also married to 3 people at the same time.

Just curious about the possible course of events.

[canadian_wife 1,785]

This is more than a simple overstay. It sounds like fraud and misrepresentation.

Fingerprints will be taken, identities will be revealed. If this person does not have a competent lawyer, one needs to be acquired soon-ish

good luck

[Transborderwife 4,666]

If a report were made about a person who overstayed a tourist visa by 10+ years, then assumed a new identity, changed their name, birth certificate, SS#, passport, brought their wife and (adult) kids over, then even proceeded to petitioning for citizenship, yet was not convicted of a crime, would it be acted upon? And how fast? I read that they don't have resources to pursue simple overstays, but this is far from simple.

Oh, and this person was also married to 3 people at the same time.

Just curious about the possible course of events.

How on earth were they allowed to do any of this without a valid i94? How did they get a Ssn? Edited July 4, 2015 by Transborderwife

[followmehome12 0]

I have no idea how, but they managed to do so.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

All that you can do is try.

[Boiler 43,397]

You do not get to go through the whole process without a lot of background checks, biometrics, reams of documentation etc.

How do you know the back story but none of this came up?

[followmehome12 0]

At the time I didn't know enough about the process.

[Ning 619]

If a report were made about a person who overstayed a tourist visa by 10+ years, then assumed a new identity, changed their name, birth certificate, SS#, passport, brought their wife and (adult) kids over, then even proceeded to petitioning for citizenship, yet was not convicted of a crime, would it be acted upon? And how fast? I read that they don't have resources to pursue simple overstays, but this is far from simple.

Oh, and this person was also married to 3 people at the same time.

Just curious about the possible course of events.

The 3 wives will take care of him eventually. Just one of them stirring the pot will be enough to expose him for what he really is.

At the time I didn't know enough about the process.

[Ning 619]

How on earth were they allowed to do any of this without a valid i94? How did they get a Ssn?

Its easy to buy a fake SSn so I wonder if the number this person has is real. If so did they would be using it for taxes I suppose.

At least he had those 3 dependents to declare on the taxes ! Plus any horde of children that may have been created.

[Transborderwife 4,666]

Its easy to buy a fake SSn so I wonder if the number this person has is real. If so did they would be using it for taxes I suppose.

At least he had those 3 dependents to declare on the taxes ! Plus any horde of children that may have been created.

Right but USCIS wouldn't be so fooled (petitions for kids, citizenship etc)

[General Buhari 46]

Wonders never cease

[Darnell 8,478]

If a report were made about a person who overstayed a tourist visa by 10+ years, then assumed a new identity, changed their name, birth certificate, SS#, passport, brought their wife and (adult) kids over, then even proceeded to petitioning for citizenship, yet was not convicted of a crime, would it be acted upon? And how fast? I read that they don't have resources to pursue simple overstays, but this is far from simple.

Oh, and this person was also married to 3 people at the same time.

Just curious about the possible course of events.

I guess it depends on any action the FDNS officer decides upon,

once the report was handed in at a local USCIS office.

Did you file the report? If yes, did you give it over to a FDNS officer at the local office, or simply drop off in the lockbox ?

[Penguin_ie 5,984]

I am prety sure they would act on this, and fast (not middle-of-the night raid, but within weeks). If it was a simple overstay, nothing may happen., But the fake SSN, US citizenship etc is the real issue.

Now, on the other hand, I find it difficult to believe this story, due to the background checks and finger prints at all the various stages.

[Jawaree 717]

Is this real ? with biometrics somewhere along the way this would be revealed

People will tell others anything especially if being questioned (called a ####### & bull story)

If its a valid story they will get around to it.

Now what was the driving force to you getting all this story then reporting it

maybe USCIS saw this as not plausible.

[Villanelle 4,121]

Hmm. Well I agree somewhat. Not so much information was given and what was stated- doesnt (appear to) make a lot of sense.

I know of a similar situation and can explain how its possible but Id rather not (speculate on the thread) If the OP wants to come back and give the specifics they are free to.

For what I think will happen- well Im usually of the minority opinion so I guess here is no different. Im taking into account a few specific things- One it says citizenship was petitioned not obtained, two it says they changed their identity completely (different name/BC/passport then subsequent SS# in the US and GC based on those IDs) and three no criminal convictions. Four they are talking about reporting to ICE- not the FDNS- directly to USCIS fraud division.

Thats really the key point here. Because of the somewhat recent immigration reform ICE has changed how they do things. A huge chunk of information can be found on this page- http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/special-reports/guide-immigration-accountability-executive-actionUnder the Enforcement section/new priorities memo/ending secure communities etc.

Specifically they dont go after people unless they are criminals (meaning have convictions)

So I strongly agree with Darnell that this would have to be reported directly to the fraud unit at USCIS and then IF they decide to investigate it and can find proof that the individual with the current GC/paperwork is the same individual with the expired tourist visa and they simply changed identity then they can take action to terminate status and ICE would be the enforcer in the matter.

But I dont know that the proof exists if they were able to pass through in the first place.