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Being with my wife is the most important thing, so I'm here for a visa, but since I am Canadian and my country allows dual citizenship, I will get citizenship in the US simply so that, should we ever move out of the US as we are planning, we will never have to go through this horrible process again. I don't want to spend a year missing her, ever, ever again.

Couldn't agree more. But we are from a country where it is easy to have the best of both worlds if we choose to. We are fortunate. I don't care WHERE I am between the two, as long as it is with my husband. It took my a long time and a failed first marriage to find this man.

I chose citizenship (over staying a greencard holder) for several reasons:

- Desire to be able to vote

- Desire to "be done with it"; no more USCIS, ever, and it would be very difficult for them to kick me out now.

- Desire to be able to live where-ever I want, and return to the USA; while we have no plans to move back to Europe, I want that option to be open, especially once we retire. Being a US citizen means I won;t have to justify me being out of the country for more than 6 months, or fear loosing my greencard.

- Desire to have the same citizenship as my kids

I am of the same mind as Penguin on the ability to vote. I also want to never have to deal with USCIS again and worry about what documents to hang onto and whether or not someone else needs it for evidence later.

I also want my children to be able to have dual-citizenship. It will be valuable to them to be able to work in either country without restrictions.


USCIS - 40 DAYS
2012-10-30: FedEx delivered I-130 to Chicago Lockbox Mail Room
2012-11-01: NOA1 by email - MSC
2012-11-02: $420 (x3) debited from our account
2012-11-05: NOA1 hard copies received, Priority Date 2012-10-30
2012-12-11: NOA2


NVC - 26 DAYS
2013-01-02: Rec'd case#, IIN, BIN & OPTIN emails for EP sent
2013-01-03: Submitted DS-261 (x3)
2013-01-07: AOS bills invoiced and paid & OPTIN for EP accepted for each of us
2013-01-08: AOS bills appear as paid & AOS packages sent by email
2013-01-08: IV bill invoiced & paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV bill appears as paid (kids' only)
2013-01-09: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (kids only)
2013-01-11: AOS received -notified by email
2013-01-11: IV bill invoiced & paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV bill appears as paid (for me)
2013-01-14: IV Supporting Docs received for kids - notified by email
2013-01-14: IV Package emailed & DS-260 submitted online (me only)
2013-01-18: IV Supporting Docs received for me - notified by email
2013-01-18: Son#1 CASE COMPLETE - Son#2 checklist - saying $ on I-864 don't match tax return (but they do)-resubmitted
2013-01-23: AOS 2nd submission for Son #2 received - notified by email
2013-01-25: My CASE COMPLETE
2013-01-28: ALL 3 OF OUR CASES ARE NOW COMPLETE
2013-02-06: Packet 4 Received by email

MEDICAL ~ CONSULATE ~ POE REMOVAL OF CONDITIONS - 160 DAYS NATURALIZATION
2013-02-13: Medicals 2014-12-17: Delivered to California Lockbox 2015-12-15: Delivered to Phoenix Lockbox
2013-03-06: Interview 2014-12-19: 1 I-751 + 3 Biometrics Fees debited from our account 2015-12-16: Fees charged to Credit Card
2013-03-08: Visas in-hand 2014-12-22: Received NOA1 by mail. Receipt Date: 2014-12-17 2015-12-17: NOA
2013-03-12: Paid USCIS Immigrant Fee 2014-12-24: Received Biometrics Appointment Letter 2016-01-02: Biometrics Letter 2016-01-11: Biometrics
2013-03-14: POE 2015-01-06: Biometrics 2016-02-15: In Line for Interview 2016-02-19: Letter
2013-03-25: SSNs arrived 2015-05-27: Approved 2016-03-22: Interview
2013-04-01: Green Cards arrived 2015-06-03: New Green Cards arrived 2016-04-15: Oath Ceremony

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Couldn't agree more. But we are from a country where it is easy to have the best of both worlds if we choose to. We are fortunate. I don't care WHERE I am between the two, as long as it is with my husband. It took my a long time and a failed first marriage to find this man.

I am of the same mind as Penguin on the ability to vote. I also want to never have to deal with USCIS again and worry about what documents to hang onto and whether or not someone else needs it for evidence later.

I also want my children to be able to have dual-citizenship. It will be valuable to them to be able to work in either country without restrictions.

Yes. The democratic process is important. Voting is important. It's the best side effect of getting citizenship so we can't be separated if we ever go back to the US if we move overseas.


Met in 2010 on a forum for a mutual interest. Became friends.
2011: Realized we needed to evaluate our status as friends when we realized we were talking about raising children together.

2011/2012: Decided we were a couple sometime in, but no possibility of being together due to being same sex couple.

June 26, 2013: DOMA overturned. American married couples ALL have the same federal rights at last! We can be a family!

June-September, 2013: Discussion about being together begins.

November 13, 2013: Meet in person to see if this could work. It's perfect. We plan to elope to Boston, MA.

March 13, 2014 Married!

May 9, 2014: Petition mailed to USCIS

May 12, 2014: NOA1.
October 27, 2014: NOA2. (5 months, 2 weeks, 1 day after NOA1)
October 31, 2014: USCIS ships file to NVC (five days after NOA2) Happy Halloween for us!

November 18, 2014: NVC receives our case (22 days after NOA2)

December 17, 2014: NVC generates case number (50 days after NOA2)

December 19, 2014: Receive AOS bill, DS-261. Submit DS-261 (52 days after NOA2)

December 20, 2014: Pay AOS Fee

January 7, 2015: Receive, pay IV Fee

January 10, 2015: Complete DS-260

January 11, 2015: Send AOS package and Civil Documents
March 23, 2015: Case Complete at NVC. (70 days from when they received docs to CC)

May 6, 2015: Interview at Montréal APPROVED!

May 11, 2015: Visa in hand! One year less one day from NOA1.

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I want to become a U.S. citizen so I can:

1) Be taxed on my worldwide income.

2) Vote in elections already decided by moneyed interests.

3) Sponsor even more and ungrateful family/people to the U.S.

4) Die while pursuing the American dream that is increasingly illusive to the 99%.

Seriously though, I love this country so much I want to help fix all of the above.

Best post I've read all week!


For a review of each step of my N-400 naturalization process, from application to oath ceremony, please click here.

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Because maybe in a few years when I will be living in Europe with my wife and we want to come back to spend Christmas with her family I do not want to:

1) Apply for another Green Card or other kind of visa a year in advance and pay these Government (Republican or Democrat) $1000+ so they can use that money, for example to finance the "War on Drugs" that Nixon started.

OR

2) If I decide not to pay for a visa and I use the tourist line at the airport, it is not my dream to be denied the entry by an arrogant official who is going to question me about my "suspicious" intentions of coming back to his/her country with an American family member who by the way is crossing the border thought the "citizens" line... Meanwhile I will be already on my way to the secondary inspection office when I will be asked if I have been involved "in genocide or espionage or whether I am seeking entry to engage in criminal or immoral activities".

Really, I do not want to deal with the Department of Homeland Security ever again. However I am not sure if it is worse than to deal with the IRS for the rest of my life... What a dilema!

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For all the sweet, sweet government benefits and handouts for anyone who doesn't speak English, or whose name is mostly vowels.


November 14th, 2013: She's here!

December 12th, 2013: Picked up marriage license.

December 14th, 2013: Wedding

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