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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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Hello,

have been lurking for a few weeks now and I must say that these forums are an excellent form of information with a great community.

however i couldn't find anyone with similar circumstances that I have with my girlfriend. Hopefully I will be saved from moral lessons, as I only want advice on what can be done to improve our chances of obtaining the visa.

To get to the point, last December I went to Ecuador which is my birth country (I'm a US citizen), I unexpectedly began dating and fell for my girlfriend whom is 9 years my minor. I am 29 and she is 20. What makes it a rather uncommon relationship is the fact that she is my second cousin. I have visited Ecuador 3 times since then, so we are meeting in person more than every 6 months which I believe is beneficial to proving the relationship is legit.

We want to apply for the K1 visa, with the intentions of marrying within the 3 months of her coming here. however I feel that we may have a problem convincing the interviewer that we are a legit couple because for one her second last name is the same as my last name and also because of the age differences. On top of that, for last year I have w2 income of 13.5k which falls short of the poverty level guideline for a household of 2, this year i have returned to college full time and have been completely dedicated to that and as a result have very minimal income (weekend jobs) that don't amount to much. I plan on having a co-sponsor as one of my parents to overcome this.

I would like to know if anyone is/was in a similar situation and what my course of action should be.

Would it be wiser to go for a B-2 visa for now and later on go for the K-1 once i'm financially stable or would providing lots of proof of our relationship and having a co-sponsor prove to be enough?


8/20/2015 - Mailed out I-129F


8/24/2015 - Arrived at lockbox (actually arrived on the 22nd but I guess they don't pick up on saturdays)


8/27/2015- NOA1 e-mail and text notification. Sent to CSC,


9/1/2015 - NOA1 hard copy by mail.


9/15/2015- NOA2 exactly 2 weeks after I received NOA1 hard copy by mail.


10/2/2015- NVC Received my case.


10/9/2015- NVC Sent out my case to Guayaquil embassy.


10/13/2015- Case Status : Ready


11/5/2015 - Medical Exam


11/10/2015- Interview

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Brazil
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Ecuador has a reputation on this site for being a difficult country for K-1 visas. Do yourself a favor and search for some threads in the appropriate regional forum and also read the consulate reviews.

Your case might receive further scrutiny because you are second cousins not because marrying your second cousin is illegal, but because of the possibility that you're simply doing a family member a favor instead of truly being in love. Be prepared to prove that your romantic relationship is a legitimate one.

With income below the poverty line, you'll need a co-sponsor. Again, check to make sure the Ecuador consulates allow these, as some consulates do not.

If your girlfriend (fiancée if you're applying for K-1, by the way) is only 20, chances are she has weak ties to her home country, which would make a B-2 visa difficult. But I guess it's worth a try if you don't go the K-1 route.

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I don't think the age gap is an issue, some people on VJ have an age gap of 20 years + . As mentioned, it is not illegal to marry your second cousin. But it would probably prove to be a more difficult process than someone who is not related to you.


Immigration Timeline

 

June 2013: Met whilst working at a summer camp in Michigan 

K1

November 1st 2014: I-129f submitted for K1 visa

February 24th 2015: Visa in hand!

February 26th 2015: POE at Las Vegas airport, then onwards to Oregon! 

March 6th 2015: Marriage (with a "real" wedding to follow next year on 7/6/2016)

March 9th 2015: AOS, EAD & AP submitted

September 22nd 2015: Interview

January 14th 2016: Two year Green card received -phew!

ROC

August 8th 2017: 90 day window begins! ROC time!

September 28th 2017: Biometric Appointment in Portland, OR

March 5th 2018: Case received by local office

August 18th 2018: 18 month extension letter mailed

December 2018: Case moved to another office

February 2019: I was emailed that I was approved and my card was in production the same day of my N400 interview 😂

N400

August 8th 2018: Window opens to submit naturalization application

August 13th 2018: N400 Application submitted online 

August 14th 2018: NOA1

September 6th 2018: Biometrics

February 6th 2019: Interview Date! APPROVED!

February 6th 2019: I was asked to return later the same day for my Oath Ceremony! :dance:

 

❤️ Our Visa Journey is finally complete ❤️

 

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Russia
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Would it be wiser to go for a B-2 visa for now and later on go for the K-1 once i'm financially stable or would providing lots of proof of our relationship and having a co-sponsor prove to be enough?

Depends. If she comes here now on the K-1 how would you support her? Sounds like waiting is best overall.


Phil (Lockport, near Chicago) and Alla (Lobnya, near Moscow)

As of Dec 7, 2009, now Zero miles apart (literally)!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Congo DR
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My sister and I are going to marry in the same family, If you are blood related in anyways I think its illegal if you are not then its fine.


I-129F sent:06/06/2014

Package Accepted:06/09/2014

NOA1(EMail & Text):06/12/2014

Hardcopy Received(Mail):06/14/2014

Service Request Submitted:10/30/2014

Alien Registration number changed:11/04/2014

NOA2(Email&Text):12/29/2014

NOA2(Hardcopy Received):12/26/2014

NVC Arrived:1/06/2015

NVC Left:1/21/2015

Sent to the Embassy:1/22/2015

Embassy Received:1/26/2015

Medical Date:01/30/2015

Interview Date :02/18/2015

Visa in Hand:3/11/2015

Marriage Date :04/06/215

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Argentina
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U.S. States only have a ban on marriages between first cousins (e.g. the children of two siblings) not second cousins (e.g. the children of two first cousins). There is no known increased risk of birth defects between second cousins, and there is only a 3-4% increased risk between first cousins (the same as a woman giving birth at 41 versus 30). [source 1] [source 2] [source 3]

OP: Your partner's country is difficult enough to get a K1 visa for. I would recommend that you put together more than enough evidence to prove that it is a valid relationship. Personally I think, if you move & work there for a year after your studies and build a life together whilst you're there it will be an excellent source of evidence. If the K1 is denied you can always marry and go the CR1/IR1 route. If you prefer not to take any risks of a denial and further processing time, I recommend you get married and file for the CR1/IR1 visa.

Edited by d3adc0d3

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K1 Visa Journey [April 11, 2013 - August 31, 2014]
[2014-09-20] !!! WEDDING !!!
[2014-09-22] Applied for SSN
[2014-09-26] Marriage License in Snail Mail
[2014-10-22] Notification of SSC in mail, will arrive "within 2 weeks"
[2014-10-27] SSC Arrived!

2015-04-30] Mailed AOS Package!
[2015-06-16] EAD Approved!
[2015-06-16] AP Approved!
[2015-06-23] EAD/AP Card Received!

[2015-10-02] AOS Approved (No Interview)!

[2015-10-07] Greencard Mailed

[2015-10-09] Approval Notice Recieved

[2015-10-09] Greencard Recieved!

I used RapidVisa for my petition; a paperwork service. A K1 is $375.00 to use their hassle-free online application system.

Useful Links:
Igor's List | Advanced Search Tool | Q&A With a Former USCIS Adjudicator
Visa Status Checker (Once you get a Case # from NVC) | Offical USCIS Reasons for a K1 Denial

The advice offered by this user is not legal advice. You should contact an attorney to obtain legal advice.

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Welcome to the forum.

Check out the MSLA Regional Forum for more country-specific information: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/forum/96-mexico-latin-south-america/

Good luck on your immigration journey.


Completed: K1/K2 (271 days) - AOS/EAD/AP (134 days) - ROC (279 days)

"Si vis amari, ama" - Seneca

 

 

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Met Playing Everquest in 2005
Engaged 9-15-2006
K-1 & 4 K-2'S
Filed 05-09-07
Interview 03-12-08
Visa received 04-21-08
Entry 05-06-08
Married 06-21-08
AOS X5
Filed 07-08-08
Cards Received01-22-09
Roc X5
Filed 10-17-10
Cards Received02-22-11
Citizenship
Filed 10-17-11
Interview 01-12-12
Oath 06-29-12

Citizenship for older 2 boys

Filed 03/08/2014

NOA/fee waiver 03/19/2014

Biometrics 04/15/14

Interview 05/29/14

In line for Oath 06/20/14

Oath 09/19/2014 We are all done! All USC no more USCIS

 

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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The age gap won't be a problem at all, because it's common in Ecu for younger women to marry older men.

The consular regime has changed, but when my contemporaries and I were going through the hellhole Guayaquil consulate, the subject of finances never came up. That might have been because everyone was qualified, and you admittedly are not. I presume that if you have a cosponsor, the financial aspect won't be an issue.

The family relationship might raise some eyebrows, beyond the consulate's historical focus on the bona fide nature of relationships.

In your eventual I-129F petition package to USCIS, I would recommend including a very carefully composed letter, addressed to "Immigrant Visa Consul, U.S. Consulate - Guayaquil." Include in it your relationship timeline, starting with all contacts (presumably incidental) with your cousin before you decided to date her. Focus on the "unexpected" (your term) start of your dating. Then, give the date-ranges and highlights of your various visits. Include language to the effect of "after the third visit [or whenever] and a total of ___ days spent together, it became clear that we were compatible and mutually committed enough to consider filing the I-129F petition and applying for the K-1 visa." Include objective language that would convince a third party (the consul) of the bona fide nature of your relationship, and concentrate on the number of visits and amount of "face time" spent together. Close the letter by saying (in bold type, as here) "We will have much more evidence of our bona fide relationship to present at the K-1 visa interview."

If (and only if) it's true, include in the letter a statement of concern that she will be drastically homesick at having to leave her family.

Have phone and Skype records (summaries, with key printouts of communications over the course of your relationship that you want seen). Save every photo that you've taken together so far, and take oodles more on your next visits.

I strongly recommend that you wait until mid-2015 to file the I-129F petition. In the meantime, visit her at least twice more and spend as long a time together as each visit allows. A good 1.5 years with multiple, quality visits will indicate the enduring, bona fide nature of your relationship.

Most important of all: You must absolutely be there with her when she goes for her visa interview.

Take the maximal time possible to conceive, compose, and massage the text of the above letter. A period of weeks or months will yield the best logic and details to include.

Edited by TBoneTX

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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