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Hello everybody,

I am wondering if the period that my fiancé and I have been knowing each other before applying for a K-1 Visa does make a difference. Here is the situation : we met online in April 2012, we met in person in July 2012 and we submitted the petition for K-1 Visa in August 2012, do you think it might be considered as a red flag? I just want to clarify that our relationship is genuine and that there are absolutely no hidden intentions from one side or another.

Also, in the declaration of how we met, we only told the circumstances of our PHYSICAL meeting like where and when etc and we didn't mention that we met online because we thought that the USCIS is only concerned about having the evidence of meeting in person and then after the NOA2 and NVC stage we can explain in details at the consulate interview how we met, both online and in person.

Please tell me, what do you think?

Thank you so much and good luck!


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My opinion is, you should be able to prove your relationship well. Those who have spent a long time together generally face less scrutiny than those who barely met and immediately filed for a K-1. Gather lots of evidence, write lots of letters, and do whatever you can to prove that the relationship is genuine, and it should be alright, I think.


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Hello everybody,

I am wondering if the period that my fiancé and I have been knowing each other before applying for a K-1 Visa does make a difference. Here is the situation : we met online in April 2012, we met in person in July 2012 and we submitted the petition for K-1 Visa in August 2012, do you think it might be considered as a red flag? I just want to clarify that our relationship is genuine and that there are absolutely no hidden intentions from one side or another.

Also, in the declaration of how we met, we only told the circumstances of our PHYSICAL meeting like where and when etc and we didn't mention that we met online because we thought that the USCIS is only concerned about having the evidence of meeting in person and then after the NOA2 and NVC stage we can explain in details at the consulate interview how we met, both online and in person.

Please tell me, what do you think?

Thank you so much and good luck!

I am sorry, I forgot to tell that other visits have taken place since then.


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My now hubby and I met each other on 1995 and never saw each other again until june 2011. We met at june 3rd 2011, on june 21, 2011 he asked me to be his girlfriend and on august 8, 2011 he proposed to me!!! We only dated for 2 month when he asked to marry him. A month later we filed my k1 visa. When our interview time arrived on april 3, 2012 we only had 9 month dating. They asked how much time we were together and when I told the CO that we only had 9 month dating she was surprised but it was not an issue!! At all! Actually we got married 4 days before our 11 month mesesary lol! My family and friend were amaze by how quickly we did everything but our love was so strong and obvious that everybody supported us! We also had other "red flags" like we are also related (we are 3rd cousins), he is 12 years older than me (he is 39 and Im 26) and he is divorced. But none of those issues were never ever a problem! Actually it took me 6 month and 3 weeks to complete the whole journey. I also remember that during my interview they did not request nor a single photo or proof of relationship. So as long as you guys can proof how much you love each other, you will be fine :) good luck


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The information you provided should satisfy the requirements for a successful I-129F petition, but depending on which country the beneficiary is from, it may be a red flag that you met and filed so quickly. (Again, it depends on the country.) Where will your fiancé interview?

Hello everybody,

I am wondering if the period that my fiancé and I have been knowing each other before applying for a K-1 Visa does make a difference. Here is the situation : we met online in April 2012, we met in person in July 2012 and we submitted the petition for K-1 Visa in August 2012, do you think it might be considered as a red flag? I just want to clarify that our relationship is genuine and that there are absolutely no hidden intentions from one side or another.

Also, in the declaration of how we met, we only told the circumstances of our PHYSICAL meeting like where and when etc and we didn't mention that we met online because we thought that the USCIS is only concerned about having the evidence of meeting in person and then after the NOA2 and NVC stage we can explain in details at the consulate interview how we met, both online and in person.

Please tell me, what do you think?

Thank you so much and good luck!


Part One: The K-1 Visa Journey:

USCIS Receipt of I-129F: January 24, 2012 | Petition Approval: June 15, 2012 (No RFEs)
Interview: October 24, 2012 - Review | Visa Delivered: October 31, 2012



Part Two: Entry and Adjusting Status:

POE: November 18, 2012 (at SFO) - Review
Wedding: December 1, 2012 | Social Security: New cards received on December 7, 2012.
AOS Package (I-485/I-765/I-131) NOA1: February 19, 2013 | Biometrics Appt.: March 18, 2013
AP/EAD Approved: April 29, 2013 | Card Received: May 6, 2013 | AOS Interview Appt.: May 16, 2013 - Approved Review Card Received: May 24, 2013

Part Three: Removal of Conditions:

Coming Soon...

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Hello everybody,

I am wondering if the period that my fiancé and I have been knowing each other before applying for a K-1 Visa does make a difference. Here is the situation : we met online in April 2012, we met in person in July 2012 and we submitted the petition for K-1 Visa in August 2012, do you think it might be considered as a red flag? I just want to clarify that our relationship is genuine and that there are absolutely no hidden intentions from one side or another.

Also, in the declaration of how we met, we only told the circumstances of our PHYSICAL meeting like where and when etc and we didn't mention that we met online because we thought that the USCIS is only concerned about having the evidence of meeting in person and then after the NOA2 and NVC stage we can explain in details at the consulate interview how we met, both online and in person.

Please tell me, what do you think?

Thank you so much and good luck!

All bases are covered. You'll be fine. We met in person in Feb and filed two weeks later I'm Mar.


Phil (Lockport, near Chicago) and Alla (Lobnya, near Moscow)

As of Dec 7, 2009, now Zero miles apart (literally)!

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From USCIS's standpoint, you should be fine. To comment further, we'll need to know the consulate at which the interview will be conducted. This could be crucial.


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Lol that was exactly my story!!! Met online April, met at May physically and then I made a trip again on July and filed August. We will be fine! Don't worry. We made 4 more trips since then and have tons of photos and chats and blah blah. We are good :D


Our K-1 journey * I am the beneficiary *

08/03/2012 sent I-129F

06/27/2013 Interview at Frankfurt Consulate = Approved.

08/09/2013 Wedding!

AOS

09/03/2013 Sent AOS + EAD + AP

12/30/2013 PR card in hand.

ROC

09/29/2015 Sent I-751

10/30/15 Biometrics

05/19/16 Approved

N-400

10/04/2016 Send Package

10/15/2016 NOA

11/04/2016 Biometrics

02/01/2017 Interview

02/23/2017 Oath!

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I think you should be fine as long as you keep documenting your relationship--until the interview. If possible, meet-up with each other again; take lots of pictures; Call each other and use other form of communications too, such as: Skype, WhatsApp, Email, etc... Start compiling evidences for when you get to the Interview Stage. Good luck! :)


To see a more detailed journey schedule, please see the About Me page and my Timeline.

Our K1 Process

June 7, 2012 -- Sent I-129F to June 9, 2013 -- Religious & Civil Wedding Ceremony in CT

FROM I-129f NOA1 to VISA APPROVAL: Exactly 8 months! No RFEs

Our AOS Process

July 16, 2013 -- Mailed AOS, EAD, and AP Paperwork to December 21, 2013 -- Received GC Card in the Mail!

FROM NOA1 to GREEN CARD in Hand: Exactly 4 months 27 days! No Interview or RFEs.

Our ROC Process

September 21, 2015 -- Mailed ROC Paperwork to August 6, 2016 -- Received Card in the Mail!

FROM NOA1 to GREEN CARD in Hand: Exactly 10 months 10 days! No Interview or RFEs.

Our {His} N-400 Process

Eligible to Apply for Citizenship on September 14, 2016.

October 4, 2016 -- Mailed N-400 Paperwork.

November 8, 2016 -- Completed Biometrics.

May 6, 2017 -- Received Interview Letter in the Mail.

June 8, 2017 -- Interview Passed!

June 16, 2017 -- Oath Ceremony! He is a USC!!

FROM Application to CITIZENSHIP: Exactly 8 months 13 days! No RFEs.

== I am the Petitioner/Sponsor/Citizen Spouse ==

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I think one of the requirements of K1 visa is that you must met your fiance 2 years before filing the petition. I'm not sure about your case but you can try, just gather everything that will prove that the two of you have a genuine and bona fide relationship. (Engagement photos, Emails, Chat logs, phone bills, remittance, boarding passes, hotel receipt, etc.)

Best wishes!


Proverbs 3:5-6

Trust in the Lord with all your heart

and lean not on your own understanding;

in all your ways submit to Him,
and He will make your paths straight.

In GOD we trust. † = ♥

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Thank you guys so much for being helpful. Just for info : we met again after filing and got engaged officially (other visits are planned before getting to the interview), we got an RFE 2 months ago for different reasons (we didn't submit passport biographical data, we didn't write our names and locations on each picture and some boarding passes were missed...I must say that we were not "experienced" at all and we did not even know about VisaJourney), we sent out all the requested evidence and more (stil waiting for NOA2). The interview will take place at the Casablanca consulate, Morocco.

Thank you once more!


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If you are male and older then you should be OK.


“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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You should put your consulate flag in your profile and also post in the MENA forum, because Morocco is a unique consulate and other people from other countries don't necessarily know how difficult Morocco is to get a visa.

You might want to be aware of this from the U.S. Embassy for Morocco http://morocco.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/fiance-visas.html:

Internet Romance and Marriage Fraud

Many U.S. citizens befriend Moroccans through Internet dating and social networking sites and these relationships often lead to marriage or engagement. While many of the marriages between U.S. citizens and Moroccans are successful, the U.S. Consulate General in Casablanca warns against marriage fraud. It is not uncommon for foreign nationals to enter into marriages with U.S. citizens solely for immigration purposes. Relationships developed via correspondence, particularly those begun on the Internet, are especially susceptible to manipulation. Often, the marriages end in divorce in the United States when the foreign national acquires legal permanent residence (“green card”) or U.S. citizenship. In some cases, the new U.S. citizen or permanent resident then remarries a wife he had divorced around the same time as he had entered into a relationship with the sponsoring U.S. citizen.

Some of the signs that an Internet contact may be developing a relationship with a U.S. citizen in order to obtain an immigrant visa through marriage are:

  • Declarations of love within days or weeks of the initial contact;
  • Proposals or discussions of marriage soon after initial contact;
  • Requests to the U.S. citizen to visit the foreign national’s home country soon after the declaration of love or proposal;
  • Responses to messages from the U.S. citizen friend are along the lines “I love you/Sorry I missed your call,” or similarly one-sided conversations;
  • Once engaged, married, or an immigrant visa petition is filed, suddenly starts missing scheduled appointments to chat or call.

While chat rooms, dating, and social networking sites can be ways to make friends across international borders, the U.S. government urges U.S. citizens who meet foreign nationals on the Internet to keep in mind the signs noted above. Entering into a marriage contract for the principal purpose of facilitating immigration to the United States for an alien is against U.S. law and can result in serious penalties, including fines and imprisonment for the U.S. citizen and the foreign national involved.

Although your relationship may be legitimate, just be aware that the consulate is looking for red flags such as the above and are more likely to question your relationship on its brevity before filing. It's good you have made several trips and be well prepared to answer any of their questions.


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K1 Visa
Event Date
Service Center : Texas Service Center
Consulate : Morocco
I-129F Sent : 2011-03-07
I-129F NOA2 : 2011-07-08
Interview Date : 2011-11-01
Interview Result : Approved
Visa Received : 2011-11-03
US Entry : 2012-02-28
Marriage : 2012-03-05
AOS sent: 05/16/2012
AOS received USCIS: 5/23/2012
EAD Delivered: 8/3/2012
AOS Interview: 08/20/2012.
Green Card Received: 08/27/2012

ROC Form Sent 07/17/2014

ROC NOA 07/24/2014
ROC Biometrics Appt. 8/21/2014
ROC RFE 10/2014 Evidence sent 1/4/2014

ROC Approval Letter received 1/13/2015

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You should put your consulate flag in your profile and also post in the MENA forum, because Morocco is a unique consulate and other people from other countries don't necessarily know how difficult Morocco is to get a visa.

You might want to be aware of this from the U.S. Embassy for Morocco http://morocco.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/fiance-visas.html:

Internet Romance and Marriage Fraud

Many U.S. citizens befriend Moroccans through Internet dating and social networking sites and these relationships often lead to marriage or engagement. While many of the marriages between U.S. citizens and Moroccans are successful, the U.S. Consulate General in Casablanca warns against marriage fraud. It is not uncommon for foreign nationals to enter into marriages with U.S. citizens solely for immigration purposes. Relationships developed via correspondence, particularly those begun on the Internet, are especially susceptible to manipulation. Often, the marriages end in divorce in the United States when the foreign national acquires legal permanent residence (“green card”) or U.S. citizenship. In some cases, the new U.S. citizen or permanent resident then remarries a wife he had divorced around the same time as he had entered into a relationship with the sponsoring U.S. citizen.

Some of the signs that an Internet contact may be developing a relationship with a U.S. citizen in order to obtain an immigrant visa through marriage are:

  • Declarations of love within days or weeks of the initial contact;
  • Proposals or discussions of marriage soon after initial contact;
  • Requests to the U.S. citizen to visit the foreign national’s home country soon after the declaration of love or proposal;
  • Responses to messages from the U.S. citizen friend are along the lines “I love you/Sorry I missed your call,” or similarly one-sided conversations;
  • Once engaged, married, or an immigrant visa petition is filed, suddenly starts missing scheduled appointments to chat or call.

While chat rooms, dating, and social networking sites can be ways to make friends across international borders, the U.S. government urges U.S. citizens who meet foreign nationals on the Internet to keep in mind the signs noted above. Entering into a marriage contract for the principal purpose of facilitating immigration to the United States for an alien is against U.S. law and can result in serious penalties, including fines and imprisonment for the U.S. citizen and the foreign national involved.

Although your relationship may be legitimate, just be aware that the consulate is looking for red flags such as the above and are more likely to question your relationship on its brevity before filing. It's good you have made several trips and be well prepared to answer any of their questions.


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